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We Are In Trouble

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Committee OKs end to door-slot mail for millions

Millions of Americans would no longer get mail delivered to their door but would have to go to communal or curbside boxes instead under a proposal advancing through Congress.

The Republican-controlled House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, on an 18-13 party-line vote, approved a bill Wednesday to direct the U.S. Postal Service to convert 15 million addresses over the next decade to the less costly, but also less convenient delivery method.
http://news.yahoo.com/committee-oks-end-door-slot-mail-millions-221201345--politics.html
 
think they might kinda do the same in health care?

There has been talk ( meetings with district managers etc) here they want to close the PO the next closest is 16 miles down the road...
Put out the curbside boxes... yet deliver to those living on the 16 mile route...
 
oh well, when the postal service started, IT WAS FREE - but you had to go to a postal station to send or pick up your mail.
btw,
if you know the ins and outs of it, it is still free to post a letter. (in the untied states) station to station.


as far as "health care" -- that's been a lie and a disaster since the phrmk took control of it around the 40's and 50's.
 
My mailbox is 2/10ths of a mile from my house so I see no problem as my mail is delivered everyday even though I have to go get it. I always did feel sorry for those postal workers that have to face adversity of the weather and even loose pets as they walk their routes. Health care................don't even get me started :rollingpin
 
"...the service struggles with inflationary cost increases..."

The bank is printing too much inflation.
 
With the way things are going with the postal service maybe it's time we all start taking steps to reduce the amount of mail we have to deal with to a bare minimum. If you take a look inside the mailman's bag, I wonder what percentage of what he is delivering is stuff that today could be handled just as easily electronically or, worse yet, how much of it is just unwanted junk mail. I'll bet the percentage of unnecessary or unwanted mail is huge!

As an example of what I mean... When I had a house (with a curbside mailbox) it would take only a couple of days for the box to be stuffed full of mail. Almost none of that mail was needed or wanted. In fact, in looking at the trash I sent to the landfill every week, many times a good 50% of it was junk mail and other unwanted or unnecessary mail. Bad for the environment, bad for the mail carrier, and bad for me.

Five years ago I sold my house and moved onto my boat full time. When I got rid of the house I rented a post office box that is about the size of a regular shoe box. I didn't leave any forwarding address because all the people I didn't want to get mail from would be given that forwarding address by the postal service (found this out the hard way). I decided who really needed to send me actual snail mail and changed my address with them directly. Since then I've been very careful not to give out my PO box address to anyone who doesn't absolutely need it and request that those who do need it not send me anything non-essential and not give it out to anyone else. Almost all companies and other organizations who need to correspond with you can do it through email and other electronic paperless methods and they will do this if you insist on it (even if you have to insist on it by telling them you won't buy their product if they must have your address in order to deal with you). Almost all companies that insist you give them your address are only doing that so they can send you junk mail directly or so they can sell their database of addresses to companies that specialize in sending out junk mail. My friends and family all correspond through email these days anyway, so most of them don't even have my PO box address. In the past I've had friends use my address (innocently, but without my permission) which resulted in more unwanted mail coming to me, so unless there is a real need not even they get my address. Even most payments, such as paychecks, reimbursements, etc can be handled electronically in one way or another, as can all financial statements, vehicle registration notices, utility bills etc.

The result of my efforts? After 5 years with the same address I get almost no unwanted mail. I can let my shoebox size PO box go unemptied for a month at a time and it still doesn't overflow. This shows just how little paper mail we really need to get in these days of modern electronic communication. With the post office charging more and more for less and less service and still not being able to be profitable enough to satisfy them, I think maybe it's just one of those things that is no longer practical.
 
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the only problem I have with online billing and banking is that well my computer can be hacked. there is a virus that locks the computer and it cant be undone and the data is copied. so if I copy and print from the bank. might as well maile me a statement. its more secure then.
 
We've always had to go to the Post Office to pick up our mail from P.O. Boxes.

When we had to get cell phones it was a nightmare. The cell phone companies use the Postal Service delivery street addresses, we didn't have one so they wouldn't deliver the phones. The lady at AT&T and her supervisor were so nice, they tried to override their system, no go. They suggested that we use the street address of someone else in town who would accept the delivery from UPS. It was so funny. "No, you don't understand, no one gets their mail delivered to their house, not even the bank, not anyone. The only street address that the Postal Service will show as receiving mail in this town is the Post Office itself."
 
We've always had to go to the Post Office to pick up our mail from P.O. Boxes.

When we had to get cell phones it was a nightmare. The cell phone companies use the Postal Service delivery street addresses, we didn't have one so they wouldn't deliver the phones. The lady at AT&T and her supervisor were so nice, they tried to override their system, no go. They suggested that we use the street address of someone else in town who would accept the delivery from UPS. It was so funny. "No, you don't understand, no one gets their mail delivered to their house, not even the bank, not anyone. The only street address that the Postal Service will show as receiving mail in this town is the Post Office itself."
by law they have to have an address. kind hard for me to locate a meter without an address. the county not the usps makes those up. I have used a gps to find some odd addresses of meters. sometimes they go by where it serves not where its located. grrrrr. I hate that.
 
by law they have to have an address. kind hard for me to locate a meter without an address. the county not the usps makes those up. I have used a gps to find some odd addresses of meters. sometimes they go by where it serves not where its located. grrrrr. I hate that.

We have a street address, it's just not list by the Postal Service. The Postal Service only lists addresses they deliver to.
AT&T uses the Postal Services address list to verify that the address is the legal address for the new customer. Then they give that address to UPS for delivery to that physical address.
 
We have a street address, it's just not list by the Postal Service. The Postal Service only lists addresses they deliver to.
AT&T uses the Postal Services address list to verify that the address is the legal address for the new customer. Then they give that address to UPS for delivery to that physical address.
that is odd since the county must share the data with att to allow them the right of away and someone is paid to locate utilities. where I work the city does it for the entire county, though its doesn't own all of the county.that includes att, Comcast our electric and water and county and water and fpl. its for a dig location. construction sights want to know.
 
Door to door?

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For $.25 a week?

tob
 
Door to door?

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For $.25 a week?

tob

it was station to station. not door to door . (pretty sure).
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that is odd since the county must share the data with att to allow them the right of away and someone is paid to locate utilities. where I work the city does it for the entire county, though its doesn't own all of the county.that includes att, Comcast our electric and water and county and water and fpl. its for a dig location. construction sights want to know.

We have an address marker with the house number on it. It was placed there by the county. Anyone could find it, we get UPS deliveries all the time with no problem. We personally know the UPS driver in our area. She grew up with my older kids.

That's not what AT&T cell is doing. They can use google maps to see where it is and that it exists. What they are doing is using the PS listing to verify if it is legally our address.
Is -------- Deborah's legal address?

They told me they do this to make sure they know where the phone is located at????

In other words the customer isn't giving someone else's address for the location of the phone but it was their suggestion that we use someone else's? I think these ladies just believed me and were trying to help me out.
 
that is odd since the county must share the data with att to allow them the right of away and someone is paid to locate utilities. where I work the city does it for the entire county, though its doesn't own all of the county.that includes att, Comcast our electric and water and county and water and fpl. its for a dig location. construction sights want to know.

We don't have regular AT&T phone lines in our area. We have Centurylink only.
AT&T is cell phone service only in our area.
 
Its that one requirement "must be willing to risk death" we've come a long way with that one exception they are still required to risk death as in going postal.. :angry3

tob
 
We don't have regular AT&T phone lines in our area. We have Centurylink only.
AT&T is cell phone service only in our area.
ok, centurylink would have what I mentioned? cable?
 
ok, centurylink would have what I mentioned? cable?

Nope, we don't get cable outside of town. We just got high speed internet access through phone lines about 2 years ago maybe and it's not that hi-speed but much better than the old dialup. I have directv.
I used to have hughes.net for internet access because I worked from home a lot.
 
Nope, we don't get cable outside of town. We just got high speed internet access through phone lines about 2 years ago maybe and it's not that hi-speed but much better than the old dialup. I have directv.
I used to have hughes.net for internet access because I worked from home a lot.

this is generally what phone companies and or Comcast uses(cable) for internet .
 
I live in a very remote area.I can't get the mail at my door.Like reba I have to travel a ways down the road to get my mail. I get mine at a mail store.I have seen for quite some time that the postal service has been having problems.I am sorry about that because I do not pay me bills on line.I pay my bills by "snail mail" :) . I would hate to see the postal service be deleted and for all of those who work for the US postal service lose their jobs.
 
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