Jason: No, to my knowledge no. No SDA church that I ever attended ever did those things. You are just trying to find a reason to call them a cult. Even if they DID do those things, they still wouldn't be a real cult. But none of the SDA churches I have attended or heard of made someone swear to certain things.
However you live in canada, Jason, so maybe its different there?
I have also said before, that I do not neccesarily believe or agree on everthing with them. Politics, Certain activities or practices, etc.
As for caffeine and smoking: Caffiene in excess is not healthy, smoking is unhealthy. To smoke is to harm the temple of your soul. Do you disagree?
About Ellen G. White: No SDA church i ever attened(about 5 different ones) never made anyone to swear that ellen white is onpar with the Bible, or that she is a phrophetess(sp?). Some do believe she is, I am undecided.
As for sunday worship: No, you can worship anytime, but it is clear that sundown friday to sundown saturday is God's sabbath. You can go to church on sunday sure. But to replace God's sabbath with a counterfeight one, is considerecd by some sdas the mark of the beast. I lean that way.
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Vic: 1: Noone has shown that the SDAs are a real cult.
2: Therefore, I have no reason to debate the issue formally.
3: noone even cares, they will not changes opinions no matter what.
4: If someone can prove that SDAs in the vast majority are a cult, I will then attempt my debate at why they are not, and why others are/can be.
5: You do not want to really consider anything other than your own beliefs opinions, you really want me to give my reasons/beliefs/debates so you can rush in and "defeat" me so to speak. No offence BTW.
6: This is a silly arguement.
7: It should not be, this topic is for asking "what church do you attend?" Henry started this silly arguement.
8: Have a nice day.