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First, why assume the NT was written in Hebrew?
Two reasons, the simple evidence comes from my website, based on Jeff Benner's research, click here http://spiritualsprings.org/ss-1092.htm
Second, a detailed extremely detailed study of the Greek by Christopher Lancaster in a pdf document called "Was the New Testament Really Written in Greek?
A Concise Compendium of the Many Internal and External Evidences of Aramaic Peshitta Primacy "
is a step is the right direction, showing Greek was not primary , but Aramaic or Hebrew was. This research is relatively young, so many other websites speak differently. His examples shows dozens of errors in the Greek, not errors in doctrine thinking, but slight differences due to primacy of language.
This is why I consider the Hebrew primacy first. Not a translated word. And I only do this when scholars question...for a child wanting salvation, any translation is OK, my faviourite is the King James in English.
Second, since it is assumed that the NT was written in Hebrew, then you must also assume what word was used.
The bridge used for Greek koine translations is the LXX, so one must find a cross reference, or fail to read the NT Greek word properly....
But in doing that, there is no basis for selecting that particular word.
I agree sometimes it is difficult
Third, all the other words in context must also be assumed, so one could make a verse say whatever they wanted. What are the assumed words for "gifts" and "calling"?
If the whole verse is questioned then yes all words would have to be looked up, otherwise as in this study only one word is allowed to make a doctrine
The Bible says one verse should not be used to make doctrines....
Here is a little of what Scripture says found in one place over a few chapters how to study Scripture
Conclusion: The Bible method for reading Scripture found across one passage of two chapters of Scripture is as follows:-
Here in this verse are many Hebrew words that mean "marks" like on a "ruler". The measurement we have in mind is lined up with the big marks and little marks on the ruler.
Here we see another poetry picture simile. When you measure something you start from a fixed known mark and measure from big marks and little marks until your object is judged by the big and little marks on your measuring standard. Thus when measuring any object, your need a standard and big and little marks that all must line up with what you're measuring.
This poetry picture simile means to look up all references on whatever measuring of a word topic your studying and compare everything with that topic with everything the Bible has to say about that topic. That makes logic sense.
Of course if you wanted to make a biased assessment, you would deliberately avoid other marks and choose the ones you want to exaggerate because you have some agenda already in mind. Thus highlighting one text over another, you can make any measuring of truth look towards your viewpoint.
The Bible says instead, to look at all the evident marks on a topic before making a conclusion. Not only that, the Bible has many other passages to speak about how to read it's holy Scriptures.
(2) Build truth from the standard of Jesus.
Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
When you read any measuring topic against the marks of other Scriptures, always cross reference the marks back to the chief corner stone, who is called Jesus. Since the Scripture Torah was written with Jesus in mind, it makes sense that every topic should be related to Jesus in some way. Thus Scripture should be Christ centered.
Here we see another poetry picture simile. When building a building from stone, each stone is aligned back to the corner stone, so the message of the wall is straight true and without error.
(3) Plumb the truth against the judgement of other marks.
The "plummet" was a "weighted mark" used to make a building go up straight and true, that all the building blocks under study were found aligning themselves to the truth of the measurement.
Isa 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet:
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Various building poetry pictures are presented here, all giving the simile of measuring truth, is found by measuring truth against all the big and little marks found on the topic of study. The message is study everything on the subject, not just here and there. Look up every reference. Than plumb the new theory of faith with the older known theories of faith, so we do not disregard the old building blocks in our wall of truth.
First, why assume the NT was written in Hebrew?
Two reasons, the simple evidence comes from my website, based on Jeff Benner's research, click here http://spiritualsprings.org/ss-1092.htm
Second, a detailed extremely detailed study of the Greek by Christopher Lancaster in a pdf document called "Was the New Testament Really Written in Greek?
A Concise Compendium of the Many Internal and External Evidences of Aramaic Peshitta Primacy "
is a step is the right direction, showing Greek was not primary , but Aramaic or Hebrew was. This research is relatively young, so many other websites speak differently. His examples shows dozens of errors in the Greek, not errors in doctrine thinking, but slight differences due to primacy of language.
This is why I consider the Hebrew primacy first. Not a translated word. And I only do this when scholars question...for a child wanting salvation, any translation is OK, my faviourite is the King James in English.
Second, since it is assumed that the NT was written in Hebrew, then you must also assume what word was used.
The bridge used for Greek koine translations is the LXX, so one must find a cross reference, or fail to read the NT Greek word properly....
But in doing that, there is no basis for selecting that particular word.
I agree sometimes it is difficult
Third, all the other words in context must also be assumed, so one could make a verse say whatever they wanted. What are the assumed words for "gifts" and "calling"?
If the whole verse is questioned then yes all words would have to be looked up, otherwise as in this study only one word is allowed to make a doctrine
The Bible says one verse should not be used to make doctrines....
Here is a little of what Scripture says found in one place over a few chapters how to study Scripture
Conclusion: The Bible method for reading Scripture found across one passage of two chapters of Scripture is as follows:-
- (1) Measure truth using big and little marks..
- (2) Build truth from the standard of Jesus.
- (3) Plumb the truth against the judgement of other marks.
- (4) Plough deeply until ..straight, soft and humble
- (5) Beware of human traditions and false prophets..
- (6) Behold the miracle wonder of meekness during study..
- (7) Listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit..
Discussion:
In the beginning...it's OK to start on milk..
Isa 28:9 ¶ Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Here the passage begins, from the book of Isaiah how to read our Bibles. We start off the idea we are babies drinking milk.
It's OK to read our Bibles as milk if a beginner.
Here we see the first poetry picture simile. When a baby begins as a babe, only milk is used, but as the baby matures stronger foods are used, as nourishment.
- Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
- Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
It is a very sad day indeed to see adult people still feeding upon the milk of the word, especially claiming to have spent years growing in Jesus.
(1) Measure truth using big and little marks..
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Here in this verse are many Hebrew words that mean "marks" like on a "ruler". The measurement we have in mind is lined up with the big marks and little marks on the ruler.
Here we see another poetry picture simile. When you measure something you start from a fixed known mark and measure from big marks and little marks until your object is judged by the big and little marks on your measuring standard. Thus when measuring any object, your need a standard and big and little marks that all must line up with what you're measuring.
This poetry picture simile means to look up all references on whatever measuring of a word topic your studying and compare everything with that topic with everything the Bible has to say about that topic. That makes logic sense.
Of course if you wanted to make a biased assessment, you would deliberately avoid other marks and choose the ones you want to exaggerate because you have some agenda already in mind. Thus highlighting one text over another, you can make any measuring of truth look towards your viewpoint.
The Bible says instead, to look at all the evident marks on a topic before making a conclusion. Not only that, the Bible has many other passages to speak about how to read it's holy Scriptures.
(2) Build truth from the standard of Jesus.
Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
When you read any measuring topic against the marks of other Scriptures, always cross reference the marks back to the chief corner stone, who is called Jesus. Since the Scripture Torah was written with Jesus in mind, it makes sense that every topic should be related to Jesus in some way. Thus Scripture should be Christ centered.
Here we see another poetry picture simile. When building a building from stone, each stone is aligned back to the corner stone, so the message of the wall is straight true and without error.
(3) Plumb the truth against the judgement of other marks.
The "plummet" was a "weighted mark" used to make a building go up straight and true, that all the building blocks under study were found aligning themselves to the truth of the measurement.
Isa 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet:
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Various building poetry pictures are presented here, all giving the simile of measuring truth, is found by measuring truth against all the big and little marks found on the topic of study. The message is study everything on the subject, not just here and there. Look up every reference. Than plumb the new theory of faith with the older known theories of faith, so we do not disregard the old building blocks in our wall of truth.
