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Bible Study What Does It Mean To Walk In The Spirit.

imho...The same way that Joseph did in the OT. He followed the Spirit of God in him. He was a type of Christ. His life points towards Jesus and the forgiveness that is the cross. He forgave those who did evil against him and gave them good in return. Are we not called to do the same, follow the Spirit of God in us?
If we return evil for evil we are being overcome by the powers of darkness. But if we return good for evil we are a witness to the love of God.

Rom 5:5 and the hope doth not make ashamed, because the love of God hath been poured forth in our hearts through the Holy Spirit that hath been given to us.

Thank you Deb. That's what I was looking for. RIGHT ON!!
 
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Chopper > How then can we overcome the powers of darkness?

Dear Brother Chopper, good question, though I’m pretty sure you have and practice the answer. :)
This following is but one of the principles you must know of to have walked in the Spirit as you do.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

I’ve found that this armor is totally involved in the word of God; the Spirit of Truth leads us in such a manner.
I wrote the following short exhortation on these verses of the armor at this URL.
http://www.christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-armor-of-god.51558/
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Thank you my good Brother and friend. I read your "armor-of-God" and it was very good and informative. That's what I'm looking for.
 
Not an attempt to deflect from the Truth Brother. An attempt to find answers to overcome the kingdom of darkness. Just to be without a focus on the Power of the Holy Spirit to do that in us is what we need. Wisdom, Knowledge and answers. Please don't forget this....

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.


Chopper, I have no intentions of taking this thread off topic into a discussion on the armor of God, but as it relates to your OP and walking in the Spirit, I would like to share what I perceived about the armor of God that I had put on. I had studied the scriptures and I believed I had put on the armor God, but then I saw my armor for what it was.

My loins were girt about with truth; But only with the truth as I believed it to be from the Scripture.
I wore the breastplate of Righteousness; But it was my own righteousness according to the works of the law.
My feet were shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; But instead I wore boots of destruction, warning of the wrath to come.
I held my shield of faith proudly; but my faith was based upon my own knowledge and understanding.
I never knew what happened to my helmet of salvation; apparently doubt kept knocking it off.
And the Sword of the Spirit? Why with the knowledge of sin, I could cut them to the ground.

I had perceived that my armor was stripped from me piece by piece until I was left naked before the Lord. But in that vulnerability, I understood something else. That Christ is my Truth. Christ is my Righteousness. Christ is the Gospel of Peace. Christ is my Salvation. Christ is my Faith. Christ is the Spirit that sustains me. When I had understood this, I felt as though my armor had been replaced, that I was clothed with a new garment, not of many pieces; but of one.

To walk in the Spirit means you have to listen to your heart. I am often reminded of the prophet Elijah when he ran for fear of his life. Listen for that still small voice.

1 Kings 19:9-12
And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the Lord came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah? And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts:for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake: And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
 
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Now, this is our problem living our daily lives. BUT, the Holy Spirit has a remedy....

Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

For the law of liberty, the law of the Spirit of life in Christ has made me free from the law of Moses, the law of sin and death. But not only has he made me free from the law of sin and death, but he has also made me free from the very "words" of the Bible, for the scripture does tell us that the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. When we are more concerned with the meaning of words rather than the Spirit of the message, then we are not free from the law of sin and death, but have made ourselves a judge over the law of sin and death. How can one hear the Spirit of the Word of God when they themselves sit in judgement over the words of God?


There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Now think about that statement right there. There is NO CONDEMNATION to them which are in Christ Jesus. But to those who walk after the flesh, there is a fearful looking for the wrath of God.

1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Romans 4:15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Romans 9:22-23
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory.

Ephesians 2:1-3
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Colossians 3:5-7
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things 'sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.


The children of wrath, the children of disobedience ironically try to remain obedient to the works of the law, and yet the works of the law reveal in them wrath of God. If we are always worried about the wrath of God, then can we really say that we are walking in the Spirit?


1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
 
Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Personal life... making the effort ,when i really dont want to... to see to my mom,.. 92 and she lives with us..very much a whinner..
Showing kindness to the neighbours beyond a smile
Being honest at the grocery store
Letting it be known it is Christ in me they see not myself
I know the difference when i approach the hated house work as unto the Lord or because NO ONE else will clean it..
What ever we do do it as unto the Lord... Talking about doing 'works'
The spirit side meaning talking to God and listening to Him i fail at way to often..
 
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Psalm 133
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
for brethren to dwell together in unity!
It is like the precious ointment upon the head,
that ran down upon the beard,
even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion:
for there the Lord commanded the blessing,
even life for evermore.
 
Thank yo EZ. That preliminary foundation teaching on the armor is so right. I'd never thought of it that way. A Christocentric life is a major starting point in understanding how this thing called "Living in the Spirit" comes about. So, if I understand your message, Christ is really our Garment, and He Himself is all the pieces of the armor.
 
Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Personal life... making the effort ,when i really dont want to... to see to my mom,.. 92 and she lives with us..very much a whinner..
Showing kindness to the neighbours beyond a smile
Being honest at the grocery store
Letting it be known it is Christ in me they see not myself
I know the difference when i approach the hated house work as unto the Lord or because NO ONE else will clean it..
What ever we do do it as unto the Lord... Talking about doing 'works'
The spirit side meaning talking to God and listening to Him i fail at way to often..

I like this post very much because it is, IMO, the life blood on walking in the Holy Spirit. Matthew five has always been my favorite "go too" when I perceive that I'm being to fleshly. The Beatitudes are a simple explanation of the intent of the 10 Commandments without God's big hammer, ready to squash anyone who doesn't comply. :gavel

Reba, thank you so very much for the humble picture of your daily workings for the Lord Jesus. So many of us can relate to your way of explaining how to walk in the Spirit. My Wife Debi is younger than me and still works. When I'm faced with the housework, dishes, pets to brush & groom, yard to maintain, there has to be a motivating factor other than my desire not to do these things and you NAILED IT!!

You said, "I know the difference when i approach the hated house work as unto the Lord or because NO ONE else will clean it..
What ever we do do it as unto the Lord."
The message? "What ever we do do it as unto the Lord."

My intent in this thread is being answered in so many of your posts my friends. I really am blessed by so many of you coming with your wonderful thoughts, Scripture, and personal theology. I firmly believe that we are in the period of time that the Prophets and Apostles wrote about. The gathering of Christ's Elect Bride is about to happen SOON. I can sense it in my spirit as some of you can as well. Lets look again at the parable of the 10 Virgins....

Matthew 25:1 "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."


There are some hints of Christ's second and last coming; when the servant found doing his Lord's will, will be greatly honored, and the sleepy pew warming believer will be severely punished. The Church at Laodicea is a prime example. Vs. 3 & 4 picture these two. Look what happened....25:6 "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. " This is what we call the Rapture.

The foolish Virgins who were left behind will face the first half of the Tribulation which will be terrible compared with our present life with predominately ease.

If we can heed the warning of this thread, we will have our lamps filled with oil and lamps trimmed, ready to meet Jesus our intended Bridegroom and further Husband in the Kingdom of the New Jerusalem. The lamps are our Christian lives and the oil is life in the Holy Spirit. Friends. Are you ready? Are we living our daily lives walking in the Holy Spirit? Are we actively killing of the works of the flesh so that they can be replaced by works of the Holy Spirit? Are we ready to meet the Bridegroom Jesus today?

Big questions. We need a daily conscious effort to kill off the flesh by the power of the Holy Spirit Who knows exactly how to do that, and cause us to be surrendered to the ministry of Christ's Spirit in us to get us ready for the Kingdom with our Heavenly Father and King Jesus.

Again, thank you all for your participation in this, IMO, important thread.
 
There are some hints of Christ's second and last coming; when the servant found doing his Lord's will, will be greatly honored, and the sleepy pew warming believer will be severely punished. The Church at Laodicea is a prime example. Vs. 3 & 4 picture these two. Look what happened....25:6 "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. " This is what we call the Rapture.

Chopper, I have never really believed in the Rapture doctrine, whether it be pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib, or at least the way that it is taught in the churches, I just could not accept it. And yet there are some scriptures that I just can't ignore. When I consider what it means to be caught up in the air, or in other words, caught up in the Spirit, then we should not be waiting for some rapture event to happen, if you are walking in the spirit, then you are already in the rapture. You didn't go anywhere, but the Spirit of Christ has come to you, if you have received him.

Hebrews 9:28
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

John 14:15-20
If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


Romans 10:6-8
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach.


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Thank yo EZ. That preliminary foundation teaching on the armor is so right. I'd never thought of it that way. A Christocentric life is a major starting point in understanding how this thing called "Living in the Spirit" comes about. So, if I understand your message, Christ is really our Garment, and He Himself is all the pieces of the armor.


You say Christocentric, so then when we say that we are walking in the Spirit, then should we not consider further what Spirit we desire to walking in? The Spirit of Elijah or the Spirit of Christ?

Romans 8:2 not only draws a separation between the law of life in Christ from the law of sin and death, but also tells us we are free from the law of sin and death.

Consider the Law of Moses, the law of sin and death. The law as it given from Mt Sinia began with the ten commandments, the ten thou shalt not's. The Law of Christ as it came forth from Mt Sion began with the ten blessings.

The law of Moses was given in the wilderness, and obedience was required in order to enter the promised land. The Law of Christ was given inside the promised land, and faith is required to see it.

Elijah was a prophet of God, there is no questioning that. But Elijah called down fire from heaven that consumed the prophets of Baal. Consider what Elijah said, "I have been very jealous for the Lord God of Hosts." John the Baptist came in the Spirit of Elijah, and yet John preached repentance to those under the law of sin and death. What did Jesus say of John? Among them that born of a woman there is none greater than John, yet none the less, he who is least in the Kingdom Heaven is greater than John (Matt 11:11).

Then I recall an incident between Jesus and His disciples when they came across a certain town.

Luke 9:52-58
And sent messengers before his face:and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
 
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

If sin has dominion over you; it totally rules your heart and mind. The law condemns you without your clinging to the work of Christ and the hope of eternal life.

In Christ we reckon ourselves dead to sin and alive to Chridt Jesus. As a Mississippi redneck I understand the word "reckon". In Christ I still depend on the work Jesus did. I see some sin in my body and have to depend on his work and not mine. I reckon I am saved by faith in Jesus and not by works of the law. I could chunk salvation away, but I reckon I am saved by faith. My mind can reckon on redemption. I do not fall away from faith in Christ Jesus. Can I see sin I me? Yes. Does it have ruling dominion over me? No. Cause I reckon the belief on Christ is greater than my flesh. That ole Romans 7:25 is at work.

Romans 14:1
Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

I can not abandon anyone that is not super Christian. If they cling to the cross of Christ with any amount of faith they are Christ's. I can not have theological discussions with them, but sin does not have dominion as long as there is a shred of faith. Job's friends tried to condem him to unbelief, but Job clung to God.

Baptized in the Holy Spirit and fire. You may be in the midst of fire, but if Christ Jesus is interceding for you hang on. Do not return to repentance, but cling to Jesus.

Do we want a mamby pamby weak church? No. Are some weak? Yes. Let the strong bear the load.

We need more folks baptized in the Holy Spirit. We have repentant folks. We have belivers in Jesus. Some say those gifts folks are nothing but trouble (the gentile false imitation gifts are trouble). Well if we want strength: let that single mustard seed weak Christian move on to strength from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit subject has a lot of strange doctrine to get past. I only see what I see. Wanting a spiritual aspect in your life can give you a bad spirit. Not just to have a leading in life, but to have the Spirit of God leading us - as our goal. Discerning spirits is one of our goals (not necessarily a showy discernment).

I am from Mississippi
What could I possibly know?
eddif
 
Consider the Law of Moses, the law of sin and death.
If we go back to considering the law of sin and death, then we have failed to lay hold on the Law of Christ. The Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Paul says that we are to put the past behind, and to move forward. That is the foundation of walking in the Spirit.
 
If we go back to considering the law of sin and death, then we have failed to lay hold on the Law of Christ. The Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Paul says that we are to put the past behind, and to move forward. That is the foundation of walking in the Spirit.

There is a great need to not go totally back under the law (i agree).
Let us look here though (not looking to the law for righteousness).

I Timothy 1:8 KJV
But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

The Holy Spirit can direct the use of the law. No we are not under the law.
But
I see Jesus as how the forgiveness from sins is accomplished by him being:
The Passover lamb
The first fruit from the grave
etc.

Hidden in the law is so much. The reality / body that casts the shadow is Christ Jesus, and not the law being the ultimate solid body casting a shadow Christ. Using the law lawfully.

Have I said anything?

Considering the law (to a redneck Mississippi feller) ain't the same as living under the law. I have no idea how you are using "considering", and I do not want a war over the word considering. I just am at home making comments about the law.

eddif
 
There is a great need to not go totally back under the law (i agree).
Let us look here though (not looking to the law for righteousness).

I Timothy 1:8 KJV
But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

The Holy Spirit can direct the use of the law. No we are not under the law.
But
I see Jesus as how the forgiveness from sins is accomplished by him being:
The Passover lamb
The first fruit from the grave
etc.

Hidden in the law is so much. The reality / body that casts the shadow is Christ Jesus, and not the law being the ultimate solid body casting a shadow Christ. Using the law lawfully.

Have I said anything?

Considering the law (to a redneck Mississippi feller) ain't the same as living under the law. I have no idea how you are using "considering", and I do not want a war over the word considering. I just am at home making comments about the law.

eddif

Hey Mississippi Redneck, you definitely are the finest Mississippi feller I know, and I love you!! Thank you for your comments. I'm not under the Law, like you, for our righteousness, but the Law is useful to know the mind of YHWH in what He approves of and disapproves of. I see Jesus' Beatitudes as an extension of the 10 Commandments in how to live the Law without being judged by it or obtaining any kind of righteousness by observing it.

I believe that you and I depend upon the Holy Spirit to guide us in using the Law lawfully as you have said. Thanks Buddy.
 
Here is a little addition to our thread on walking and living in the Holy Spirit....While I was studying in the Old Testament the other day, I read Deuteronomy 17:1...."Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness (defect): for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God."

Almost immediately, I believe that the Holy Spirit led me to remember Romans 12:1...."I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."....I find it very interesting how the Spirit of God ministers to me. I wasn't even thinking of the New Testament. and pop! in comes the idea, "don't present yourself a living sacrifice with a lot of flesh attached to it."

Oh O! Boy am I guilty of that!! Then I had to examine what I've been doing every morning and see if I'm right or wrong. Obviously to the Holy Spirit, I'm wrong. Ok, lets see. "present my body a living sacrifice that is acceptable to God." According to Deut. 17:1, my body can't have defects.

I'm wondering what you folk think are defects? Certainly not all the wrinkles and blemishes from old age on my face. Not my physical shortcomings. Not poor eyesight, you get what I mean. In our OP and thread, I am learning from you folk that in order for the Holy Spirit to be effective in leading me, I must mortify the deeds of the flesh.

Now, every morning before I begin my Bible studies, I pray something like this. "Heavenly Father, good morning. I love You and only You. I present my body a living sacrifice to You. It is holy and acceptable to You thru Your Son Jesus the Christ." and so on. Now, how is the sacrifice of my body an acceptable sacrifice if there is either un-confessed sin attached to the flesh, or I've been involved in something that would grieve the Holy Spirit. It then would not be an acceptable sacrifice.

Therefore I must be very careful to have the Holy Spirit search out my heart for anything that would hinder my offering my body as a "living sacrifice" even before I begin my morning prayer. About a month and a half ago, a thought came to my mind that I'd been neglecting to remember how important the Holy Spirit is in my daily activities and my thoughts. Probably the Holy Spirit was grieved because of this. Perhaps that's why I started this thread?

I have changed because of all you folks posting your wonderful thoughts and Scriptures. I now fellowship with the Holy Spirit on a daily basis recognizing His presence in me and His working on my behalf. Just the other night, I was hurting very badly. My stomach has been hurting 24/7 for about 6 months. Cat scans, camera's down my throat into my stomach have shown nothing. The pain is not controlled by anything the doctor has given me.

So, the other night, I was speaking to the Holy Spirit before slipping off to sleep, and pleaded with Him to speak to my Great Physician Jesus to help and heal my stomach. Today at 2:30pm my weakness and stomach pain ceased, O praise Jesus and the Holy Spirit for interceding for me.

Ok, that's it for now. I love you folk, we are a nice big family of Brothers and Sisters who simply love our Lord and Savior and His Father for such a grand and eternal Salvation. PLUS the marvelous Holy Spirit Who lives inside of us in His Temple, our bodies. O how I want my body to be a fit place for our Holy God, thru His Holy, Holy Spirit.
 
Chopper, I was looking for something else, when I happened upon Isaiah 40. I would recommend reading the whole chapter. Something else I will have to follow, but the "arm of the Lord" appeared to me a number of times while I was scanning for this other thing.

Isaiah 40:3-8
The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord,
make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Every valley shall be exalted,
and every mountain and hill shall be made low:
and the crooked shall be made straight,
and the rough places plain:
And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed,
and all flesh shall see it together:

for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.
The voice said, Cry.
And he said, What shall I cry?
All flesh is grass,
and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth:
because the spirit of the Lord bloweth upon it:
surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth:
but the word of our God shall stand for ever.


Isaiah 40:28-31
Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard,
that the everlasting God, the Lord,
the Creator of the ends of the earth,
fainteth not, neither is weary?
there is no searching of his understanding.
He giveth power to the faint;
and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.
Even the youths shall faint and be weary,
and the young men shall utterly fall:
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength;
they shall mount up with wings as eagles;
they shall run, and not be weary;
and they shall walk, and not faint.
 
Luke 24:25 KJV
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Jesus is the spotless lamb.

John 19:6 KJV
When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

Jesus is the sacrifice for my righteousness. Pilate declared him spotless.

II Corinthians 4:5
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

I John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

We are dealing with the center of the gospel here. He bore my sins on the cross IP224

Can I understand all this perfectly? No. We see through a glass darkly. Is this a cop out? This is where I work out my salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:12 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

By the declaration of God I seem to have righteousness. (If I could just spell edit)

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We have examined Romans 8:2 and that the law of life in Christ has made me free from the Law of sin and death.

Faith in Christ leads to life.
Trust in the Law leads to death.

I have have asked as it pertains to walking in the Spirit, what spirit is it that leads you: the Spirit of Elijah or the Spirit of Christ? Even John the Baptist said I must decrease, so that he may increase. And yet there were those who continued to follow John long after the ministry of Jesus began.

So in this discussion about walking in the Spirit, or maybe one could also say walking in the resurrection; and yet in the resurrection there is both life and death.

John 5:25-29
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this:for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Hosea 6:1-3
Come, and let us return unto the Lord:
for he hath torn, and he will heal us;
he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
After two days will he revive us:
in the third day he will raise us up,
and we shall live in his sight.

Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord:
his going forth is prepared as the morning;
and he shall come unto us as the rain,
as the latter and former rain unto the earth.


Matthew 12:39-40
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Now just to carry out a thought here, but could this be more than just the time Jesus laid in the tomb after his crucifixion? Three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Well if he dwells in my heart, and my flesh is of the earth, then he dwells in the heart of my earth.
 
and yet in the resurrection there is both life and death.
Not really. As soon as there is resurrection, death is literally no longer of any consequence. But in order to live the resurrection life, one must first die. In the case of believers, we are to reckon ourselves as dead, since God is looking for living sacrifices, not dead martyrs necessarily.
 
Not really. As soon as there is resurrection, death is literally no longer of any consequence. But in order to live the resurrection life, one must first die. In the case of believers, we are to reckon ourselves as dead, since God is looking for living sacrifices, not dead martyrs necessarily.


And clearly you missed the fact that I was referencing what the scriptures say when I followed up that statement by posting the scripture from John 5:25-29, where is the resurrection to life, and the resurrection to damnation. But this is twice now that you have quoted my statements completely out of context. But thank you for your demonstration on what it means to strain at the gnat.

If you wish to stand upon your own soap box, then you don't need to quote my statements out of context to do so. If you wish to comment on the context of what I have written, then by all means respond in context. Thank you.
 
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