What happens when you don't pray in the spirit?

[iLOVE]

Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Ephesians 6:18

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

I don't know how a person can't.

 

[Angel]

If you don't pray in the Spirit than maybe you are not a Christian? When we accept Christ we receive the Spirit.
Sometimes when I pray I ask the Spirit to pray for me.
I believe in the Spirit because I know that I know that he is there.
And you know, even if I don't feel close to Him, I know He is with me. When this happens I think He is testing my faith, to trust even if He seems like distant.

 

[Eugene]

Let’s imagine someone praying against such things foretold in scripture; that would surely appear to be not of the Spirit.
There shall be great tribulation. Do we pray that God change His word?
2 Tim 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Maybe we shouldn’t want to live godly?

Praying when? Always! Always pray according to God’s will, and it will be to His glory.

Just a thought on this is that as we pray in the Spirit according to God’s word we will realize the effect of Rom 8:28 in our own spiritual experience. “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Jesus put it this way praying when He was suffering, and it was indeed spiritual prayer.
Mat 26:39 “And He (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

 

[iLOVE]

I just wanted to clarify. Praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

 

[Obadiah]

I just wanted to clarify. Praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

No, I believe you are very wrong here. And anyone who condemns a person as not being a Christian because they do not speak or pray in tongues is very wrong as well. Ephesians 6:18 does not say praying in "tongues". It says praying "in the spirit". Even in the original language these are different things described by different words. Just the fact that some very recent denominations of the church have decided to adopt this term to mean tongues doesn't change what God actually said to us. I don't deny that praying in tongues can be a form of praying in the spirit but neither Ephesians 6:18 nor any other scripture tells us that praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

I just wanted to clarify. Praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

I see. I don't think I've ever found out how to speak or pray in tongues. I know there's a portion where Paul speaks about the gifts given to us and lists several including speaking in tongues, but I don't think the intent is that everyone can do each of them. Some people are encouragers, some are healers, some are teachers, some even prophets and apostles. Maybe I don't understand it correctly. But most every time I pray, I feel a spiritual feeling. I don't know how to pray in tongues so maybe that says something.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Blocking out the world and focusing on God is praying in the Spirit.
Some people need a quiet place to do this while others can be on a busy city street and do it.
The emphasis is the "do it".

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

What happens when you don't pray in the Spirit?
I believe the world takes hold of your life.
That's why many professing Christians don't walk the walk.

 

[dianegcook]

No, I believe you are very wrong here. And anyone who condemns a person as not being a Christian because they do not speak or pray in tongues is very wrong as well. Ephesians 6:18 does not say praying in "tongues". It says praying "in the spirit". Even in the original language these are different things described by different words. Just the fact that some very recent denominations of the church have decided to adopt this term to mean tongues doesn't change what God actually said to us. I don't deny that praying in tongues can be a form of praying in the spirit but neither Ephesians 6:18 nor any other scripture tells us that praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

I agree.
We have the Pentecostal tongue, which everyone understood, even in their own dialect.
Then we have the unknown tongue.
A language that some can not speak or understand.
If I go to Mexico, and speak English, they would not understand what I said, thus an interpreter.
Paul spoke a lot of different languages.

My thoughts.....

 

[Angel]

I just wanted to clarify. Praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

I don't speak in tongues, so do I not pray in the Spirit?
I went to a church once and they were "speaking in tongues" and they sounded like... so strange! and it was chaotic. I think they had spirits other than Christs.

 

[Obadiah]

I don't speak in tongues, so do I not pray in the Spirit?
I went to a church once and they were "speaking in tongues" and they sounded like... so strange! and it was chaotic. I think they had spirits other than Christs.

When speaking in tongues is done in a chaotic way as you describe it is not of the Lord. And that is from God's word. "If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret" (1 Cor 14:27), and "all things should be done decently and in order." (1Cor 14:40, ESV). When people do these so called "spiritual" things that you described, but in reality go against God's word, they are indeed being led by a spirit different than the Holy Spirit! "God is not a God of confusion..." (1 Cor 14:33a, ESV)

Now I understand there is a difference when we talk about the whole issue of "privately praying" in tongues being different than "speaking" in tongues, and therefore doesn't require adherence to the scriptures I posted here. But if you walk into a church service and you hear a bunch of gibberish coming from the congregation, I submit that this is not private prayer (if it were, you wouldn't be hearing it). People can say this is private prayer all they want to justify their need to show their supposed superior spirituality, but that simply doesn't make it true.

 

[iLOVE]

No, I believe you are very wrong here. And anyone who condemns a person as not being a Christian because they do not speak or pray in tongues is very wrong as well. Ephesians 6:18 does not say praying in "tongues". It says praying "in the spirit". Even in the original language these are different things described by different words. Just the fact that some very recent denominations of the church have decided to adopt this term to mean tongues doesn't change what God actually said to us. I don't deny that praying in tongues can be a form of praying in the spirit but neither Ephesians 6:18 nor any other scripture tells us that praying in the spirit is done by praying with tongues.

There is a difference between praying in the natural vs. praying in the spirit with tongues.

 

[iLOVE]

I don't speak in tongues, so do I not pray in the Spirit?
I went to a church once and they were "speaking in tongues" and they sounded like... so strange! and it was chaotic. I think they had spirits other than Christs.

Now that you are saved, you should ask the Lord to baptize you with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4).

While it is certainly true the Holy Spirit came into your heart and life the moment of your Salvation, still, He now wishes to endure you with power from on high. Consequently, Jesus told all of His followers immediately before His Ascension, that they should "wait for the Promise of the Father" (Acts 1:4). He was speaking of being "Baptized with the Holy Spirit" (Acts 1:5).

You must understand that there is a great difference in being "born of the Spirit" than being " Baptized with the Spirit." They are two different works altogether.

To be "born of the Spirit" is that which took place at your conversion, as the holy Spirit brought you to Christ and performed the work of regeneration within your heart and life. To be "Baptized with the Spirit" is in order that you may have Power with God (Acts 1:8). Every Believer should ask the lord to fill them with the Holy Spirit, and expect to receive (Luke 11:13).

 

[Obadiah]

There is a difference between praying in the natural vs. praying in the spirit with tongues.

While I never said there wasn't a difference, I'm not sure what your definition of terms such as "praying in the natural" is. I've already established why praying in the spirit in the scripture you cited does not mean "praying in tongues". Praying in tongues may be one way, but the requirement of it that you stated is simply not there.

 

[reba]

I come from a heritage of Pentecostalism 3 generations deep... Tongue talking is not always real.. or from the Lord.. Don't listen to anyone tell you MUST speak in tongues...

 

[iLOVE]

Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. Matthew 13:11-12 NKJV

 

[ezra]

I come from a heritage of Pentecostalism 3 generations deep... Tongue talking is not always real.. or from the Lord.. Don't listen to anyone tell you MUST speak in tongues...

thank you Reba for that honest reply

 

[iLOVE]

While I never said there wasn't a difference, I'm not sure what your definition of terms such as "praying in the natural" is. I've already established why praying in the spirit in the scripture you cited does not mean "praying in tongues". Praying in tongues may be one way, but the requirement of it that you stated is simply not there.

Have you been filled with the Holy Spirit? Luke 11:13

 

[Obadiah]

Have you been filled with the Holy Spirit? Luke 11:13

Yes.