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What Has Trump Done For America In His First Term?

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Edward said:
Look Brother, all I am doing is having faith in God.
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I don't have a problem with people who have faith in God; but when the demonstration of that faith runs contrary to the teaching concerning the following Christ, then it is a faith I find no value in following.

Edward said:
I liked Trump before I ever heard that God put this man in office for His purposes.
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I on the other hand have never cared for the man. From the time I was young growing up in New York, he was never anything more than con man and a carnival barker. But he always had his admirer's, you know, the lifestyles of the rich and famous!

But I knew that Trump would win the election in 2016 right after his announcement riding down that escalator, because the Lord showed me. I have, or had posts on this forum back then before the primaries in 2016 that kind of stated such. I also understood that Tump would not win this election cycle, but nor would he relinquish his seat on his own. But you are correct. God has his purposes; Even for the father of lies.

And they shall look upon him narrowly and say, is this the man that didst weaken the nations?



Edward said:
Trump is a big business man and very successful at it.
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He has been a failed businessman with many bankruptcies. But his business acumen is irrelevant to this.

Edward said:
And what else is the government of the US but a big business?
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The government of the United States is NOT a business, it is a Government. Its function is to govern the people and provide justice under its laws. It is not a business meant to make a profit.
 
ezrider said:
I don't have a problem with people who have faith in God; but when the demonstration of that faith runs contrary to the teaching concerning the following Christ, then it is a faith I find no value in following.
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I'm not wanting followers, lol And perhaps you'll share how my demonstration of faith runs contrary to the teachings of Christ? I'm not quoting scripture in this thread so I'm curious how you could even say that? It's a thread about Trump and his Presidency. Opinions.

If you just don't like Trump, then maybe you should consider that...Christ died for him too, with all of of his big bad sins which you hold up as some kind of, well I'm not sure. To say Edward is wrong I guess. Trump is a child of God too Brother. When you say those bad things about Trump, you are actually cursing him. And yet scripture tells us to pray for our leaders. To bless our enemies. So isn't cursing Trump contrary to the teachings of Jesus? I fail to be able to see your foundation here, Brother.
 
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?


These divisions did not begin with this President, but in him they have found their stronghold. The fruit of the tare coming into maturity, ripening first to be gathered and burned in the fire.

But the seeds of this division were planted a generation ago with the Christian Moral Majority movement, and has grown slowly since. In 2008 the Lord set a man of God over the land, but because he happened to be black, God's people were stirred to jealousy, and the deep roots of racism and hatred festered in their hearts continually. As it was this site shut down its forums to hide the poison that festered in the hearts of men to tend rather to its outward appearance. But the man of God was mocked and hated has the divisions continued to grow. And so was given to them a father of lies, a showman who was anti to everything one would call a character of Christ, and this man was beloved, supported and defended by the evangelical right that no matter how egregious his behavior became. And so this pied piper has called forth that deep hatred that has been hidden deep in the hearts, and has made it fashionable to wear it on your sleeves for all to see. What was once held secret in humility is now seen as a badge of honor held in pride. The fruits of the tare nearly ripe, as they cast judgement upon themselves.
 
jasonc said:
look didn't snowden and the other reveal our government doing bad things and yet what changes because of wiki leaks have occurred ?
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Nothing has changed because of the deep corruption in our Justice Department and federal courts.

This is changing, slowly but surely.


Justice is coming.




JLB
 
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JLB said:
Nothing has changed because of the deep corruption in our Justice Department and federal courts.

This is changing, slowly but surely.


Justice is coming.




JLB
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4 years since he promised justice for Hillary ,look until the families of one,just one soldier at ft.hood really protested the lack of justice over,their daughter ,nothing happened and that was nearly two years after the fact .

that isn't new ,higher ups and their covering up of crimes is stories I have heard and told a few my self .

4 more years won't if at all change this much . the issue is a heart problem .
 
jasonc said:
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4 years since he promised justice for Hillary ,look until the families of one,just one soldier at ft.hood really protested the lack of justice over,their daughter ,nothing happened and that was nearly two years after the fact .

that isn't new ,higher ups and their covering up of crimes is stories I have heard and told a few my self .

4 more years won't if at all change this much . the issue is a heart problem .
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i have retired and in my time out I can see the military differenyou,while I don't regret my service ,their were shady people ,a chaplain retired told me at a dinner for me about how despite the so called rape no tolerance policy that an e9 got away with it and plans to write a book on the stories of such like ,he is also a retired cop.hardly liberal or anti military .
 
ezrider said:
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?


These divisions did not begin with this President, but in him they have found their stronghold. The fruit of the tare coming into maturity, ripening first to be gathered and burned in the fire.

But the seeds of this division were planted a generation ago with the Christian Moral Majority movement, and has grown slowly since. In 2008 the Lord set a man of God over the land, but because he happened to be black, God's people were stirred to jealousy, and the deep roots of racism and hatred festered in their hearts continually. As it was this site shut down its forums to hide the poison that festered in the hearts of men to tend rather to its outward appearance. But the man of God was mocked and hated has the divisions continued to grow. And so was given to them a father of lies, a showman who was anti to everything one would call a character of Christ, and this man was beloved, supported and defended by the evangelical right that no matter how egregious his behavior became. And so this pied piper has called forth that deep hatred that has been hidden deep in the hearts, and has made it fashionable to wear it on your sleeves for all to see. What was once held secret in humility is now seen as a badge of honor held in pride. The fruits of the tare nearly ripe, as they cast judgement upon themselves.
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I didn't say that Trump being President was going to unify the country in any way, lol. Oh there is great division now and it will get to be more when He wins again. Because Trump is not in their Elite cub. And he has his own money. So he's dangerous to them.

There's even great division within the church and believing people because of the things which have happened, are happening and will continue to happen. And these things must be, because the Lord is coming and for an unblemished Bride so there will be a lot of shaking to the church coming. It has to be for purity, righteousness and the fear of God to be returned to the church.

And someone noted that you can't really see America in scripture, and for the most part I think this is true. So these things that I have spoke of, might not even happen. But...they could. The probably will but it is up to us largely. How much we pray, for ourselves, our President, our nation and our people. Did you know that Revelation was the last book of the Bible to be written? The Lord probably didn't want to write it. But we are a hard hearted people and it will be necessary to take us to the brink of death & disaster before the people will turn back to God and repent. So it's up to us. And this is how the Lord deals with His children, examples are all over the OT. God says, If this then that. If my people will do this, then God will do that. So everything is conditional. We are not bystanders or merely observers in this spiritual war. We have a role to play.
 
Edward said:
I didn't say that Trump being President was going to unify the country in any way, lol. Oh there is great division now and it will get to be more when He wins again. Because Trump is not in their Elite cub. And he has his own money. So he's dangerous to them.
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Trump is to the corruption in our Government what Jehu was to the house of Ahab and Jezebel.



JLB
 
jasonc said:
he did .many also stated that .
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How can Trump prosecute Hillary?


It takes an honest Justice Department to do that.


Trump is just as frustrated as we are. He can’t even get them to follow through with the prosecution of those who spied on him and set him up for impeachment through false evidence and witnesses (Obama and Biden) which is treason.



JLB
 
JLB said:
How can Trump prosecute Hillary?


It takes an honest Justice Department to do that.


Trump is just as frustrated as we are. He can’t even get them to follow through with the prosecution of those who spied on him and set him up for impeachment through false evidence and witnesses (Obama and Biden) which is treason.



JLB
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that's not treason ,thats a falaw atatement ,ok,so why isn't despite barr in office now nothing happening ,he has been in for two years.

the definition of treason is .

aid and comfort for the enemy in a time of war .

what nation or terrorist state did Obama and biden aid that would benefit from the loss of trump?

Iran?you must prove Iran paid or they did for Iran only ,they likely aren't .
 
so vote trump again despite two failed attempts of his picking the doj with party support


skeptical
 
People who love Trump love to say how the media is pushing an agenda. No, supposedly this is how democracy works.....you vote......they count.......whoever gets the most votes and electorates.....the next president.

I have no problem saying that what Trump is doing to people looks like a cult. He wants you to just follow the information "He" pumps out and says EVERYONE else is lying.
 
JLB said:
Trump is to the corruption in our Government what Jehu was to the house of Ahab and Jezebel.



JLB
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That's right Brother. We watched the same thing, lol.

JLB said:
How can Trump prosecute Hillary?


It takes an honest Justice Department to do that.


Trump is just as frustrated as we are. He can’t even get them to follow through with the prosecution of those who spied on him and set him up for impeachment through false evidence and witnesses (Obama and Biden) which is treason.



JLB
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That's right and they wont, however, It has also been prophesized that after Trump is re-elected that, Roe vs Wade will be over turned. And I've heard prophecies that Trump will continue to drain the swamp and many bad people will be brought to justice.

But none of this is carved in stone. I *think* that if Roe vs Wade is over turned that it will probably be after that that prosecutions will begin and so forth. It is said that IF Roe vs Wade is overturned, then a curse will be lifted off of America within one hour.

If only My people will pray and turn from their and repent, then I will hear their voice from heaven and heal their land...
So I believe it is our duty as believers to send a tsunami of prayers skyward, for that is our lot in this.
 
Edward said:
That's right Brother. We watched the same thing, lol.



That's right and they wont, however, It has also been prophesized that after Trump is re-elected that, Roe vs Wade will be over turned. And I've heard prophecies that Trump will continue to drain the swamp and many bad people will be brought to justice.

But none of this is carved in stone. I *think* that if Roe vs Wade is over turned that it will probably be after that that prosecutions will begin and so forth. It is said that IF Roe vs Wade is overturned, then a curse will be lifted off of America within one hour.

If only My people will pray and turn from their and repent, then I will hear their voice from heaven and heal their land...
So I believe it is our duty as believers to send a tsunami of prayers skyward, for that is our lot in this.
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a lliteral interpetation of the constution.

what is treason ?
 
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