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What is a liberal?

For or against being a true liberal

  • for

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • against

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • don't know

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • I need to talk to my guru on this one

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    5
no,they added.

Moses didn't add to the Torah .they did .they went to far .

so by your logic why is homosexuality a sin ?
why is fornication and so forth ,Jesus judged the Pharisees for adding and perverting the Torah .

not the Torah itself
Show me Scripture that says Jesus judged the Pharisees for adding and perverting the Torah.
i don't hide my views but won't undermine my elders
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It's not there.
 
Show me Scripture that says Jesus judged the Pharisees for adding and perverting the Torah.

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It's not there.
well ,

the sabbath was made for man ,
,the tithing of manner of mint and ignoring the weighier of manner of the law ,the idea one can disrespect your parents so long as you give a gift ,called a corban.
 
well ,

the sabbath was made for man ,
,the tithing of manner of mint and ignoring the weighier of manner of the law ,the idea one can disrespect your parents so long as you give a gift ,called a corban.
In other words, you got nothing but a Jewish background and you're trying to hang on to some of it.
Good luck.
 
I know the OP opened with aside from politics, but these terms are most often seen and interpreted in the political spectrum. So from a political spectrum, to recognize the difference between a liberal and a conservative mindset, I would look to the political nature and divide of the Supreme Court. Watching how the judges interpret the law demonstrates the characteristic for each, both the liberal and the conservative.

The main difference to me, is the liberal mind lends toward hearing the spirit of the word, while the conservative mind lends towards interpreting the letter of the word. When it comes to the conservative justices, they appear to be more concerned with interpreting the original meaning of the constitution while the liberal justices try to apply the spirit of the words of the constitution to current matters of justice.

When the spirit of the word means:


Supporting abortion
Gay Marriage
Welfare State
Defunding the police
letting criminals who burn cities and murder go free
Promoting Critical Race Theory
Teaching transgender and gay sex to little children in school




Then it’s not the Spirit of God.




JLB
 
Milk-Drops says, "Theologically it's a person or group that deviates from fundamental reading or traditions of the religion."
I guess that makes Jesus a liberal.
He would be a liberal to fundamental Judaism. Considering there are passages of him lecturing the Pharasees for being too steeped in the law and not the spirit of the law.
 
When the spirit of the word means:


Supporting abortion
Gay Marriage
Welfare State
Defunding the police
letting criminals who burn cities and murder go free
Promoting Critical Race Theory
Teaching transgender and gay sex to little children in school




Then it’s not the Spirit of God.




JLB
Ah, so being a liberal means believing in fake culture war nonsense from American republican pundits. Got it.
 
When the spirit of the word means:


Supporting abortion
Gay Marriage
Welfare State
Defunding the police
letting criminals who burn cities and murder go free
Promoting Critical Race Theory
Teaching transgender and gay sex to little children in school




Then it’s not the Spirit of God.




JLB


But we are not talking about the spirit of God. We are talking about man, and the spirit of man that instructs him. It is the spirit of man that is in him that either focuses on the letter of the word for their meanings or focuses on understanding the spirit of the word, or in other words, the moral of the story. Some only know how to compare letter with letter, this is not of the Spirit of God either.

By your list, it appears you are stuck on the letter. Supporting abortion? Do also exclude the concept of choice? The good old American concept of freedom? Can you tell me, if your daughter was raped and became pregnant, what right do I have in any of her decisions? I am not the revenger of her blood.

Gay Marriage? When almost 50% of marriages end in divorce, or worse yet, those that are stuck in abusive relationships because they fear it is their duty, then tell me, what sanctity is there left in the term marriage. The spirit of man that is in him, it understands these things, and guides him in his civil laws.

Critical Race Theory, what is that? Is that like white nationalism and American exceptionalism? Is it the belief that the anglo-saxon races are the descendants of the lost tribes of Israel? That our constitution is some sort of covenant with God?


All these things you list, they do not explain what is a liberal, nor do they consider why it is liberal. What they are, is things you can blindly list as "liberal agendas" and then proclaim they are not of the spirit of God.


When it comes to hearing the spirit of a word, or the spirit of a message: some can watch a purple dinosaur and learn a moral of a story, while others no matter what, can only see the purple dinosaur.
 
But we are not talking about the spirit of God. We are talking about man, and the spirit of man that instructs him. It is the spirit of man that is in him that either focuses on the letter of the word for their meanings or focuses on understanding the spirit of the word, or in other words, the moral of the story. Some only know how to compare letter with letter, this is not of the Spirit of God either.

By your list, it appears you are stuck on the letter. Supporting abortion? Do also exclude the concept of choice? The good old American concept of freedom? Can you tell me, if your daughter was raped and became pregnant, what right do I have in any of her decisions? I am not the revenger of her blood.

Gay Marriage? When almost 50% of marriages end in divorce, or worse yet, those that are stuck in abusive relationships because they fear it is their duty, then tell me, what sanctity is there left in the term marriage. The spirit of man that is in him, it understands these things, and guides him in his civil laws.

Critical Race Theory, what is that? Is that like white nationalism and American exceptionalism? Is it the belief that the anglo-saxon races are the descendants of the lost tribes of Israel? That our constitution is some sort of covenant with God?


All these things you list, they do not explain what is a liberal, nor do they consider why it is liberal. What they are, is things you can blindly list as "liberal agendas" and then proclaim they are not of the spirit of God.


When it comes to hearing the spirit of a word, or the spirit of a message: some can watch a purple dinosaur and learn a moral of a story, while others no matter what, can only see the purple dinosaur.

I dont know about catching purple dinosuars.

I do know that liberal ideaology embraces and endorces those things I listed.


JLB
 
I dont know about catching purple dinosuars.

I do know that liberal ideaology embraces and endorces those things I listed.


JLB
Can you explain the burning cities to the ground and teaching children about gay sex? So far I have not seen this endorsed by anyone who has any form of power to do any such thing.
 
Can you explain the burning cities to the ground and teaching children about gay sex? So far I have not seen this endorsed by anyone who has any form of power to do any such thing.

The leaders of cities who let BLM and Antifa, left wing radicals, get away with burning and looting cities and murdering citizens while at the same time calling for the defunding of police.


School boards who are filled with left wing liberals, mandating and promoting that CRT, as well as the teaching of the LGBTQ agenda in the schools.





JLB
 
The leaders of cities who let BLM and Antifa, left wing radicals, get away with burning and looting cities and murdering citizens while at the same time calling for the defunding of police.


School boards who are filled with left wing liberals, mandating and promoting that CRT, as well as the teaching of the LGBTQ agenda in the schools.





JLB
boy oh boy, so much for the OP.
 
The leaders of cities who let BLM and Antifa, left wing radicals, get away with burning and looting cities and murdering citizens while at the same time calling for the defunding of police.
They did? Is that why there were arrests of protesters and those caught directly causing problems by the police got prosecuted and aressted?


School boards who are filled with left wing liberals, mandating and promotingarrested?
Crt? You mean that college level legal class? Or are you talking about the history of slavery, segregation. Red lining etc and the impacts that has had on minority communities?


, as well as the teaching of the LGBTQ agenda in the schools.





JLB
I have yet to see any school or school board mandate teaching gay sex to children. It's hard enough getting basic sex ed in most schools.
 
Is that why there were arrests of protesters and those caught directly causing problems by the police got prosecuted and aressted?

I know there was in Texas.


In Seattle, and Detroit and other Liberal strongholds they were released without bail. Finally after weeks of that the police didn’t bother making arrests.



JLB
 
Crt? You mean that college level legal class? Or are you talking about the history of slavery, segregation. Red lining etc and the impacts that has had on minority communities?


Critical Race Theory is left wind propaganda tool to divide the US.




JLB
 
I know there was in Texas.


In Seattle, and Detroit and other Liberal strongholds they were released without bail. Finally after weeks of that the police didn’t bother making arrests.



JLB
People were arrested in both and there were bail drives in both cities. I think you only have part of the story.
 
Critical Race Theory is left wind propaganda tool to divide the US.




JLB
Ah, you bought inyo Rufo's propaganda method. Christopher Rufo worked with other pendants to convince viewers and readers of right wing pendants that whenever the person sees the words crt, they will associate it to crazy stuff. CRT is taught in college level classes and is about examine how slavery, segregation, and other aspects of law effect minority communities. Don't buy the propaganda that is meant to make you angry and keep consuming their drivel.
 
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