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Very very interesting your interpretation. I was reading Daniel 7 and compared with your true interpretation, and in my view the interpretation of Daniel 7 is , in part, as follow:Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity,
Thank you for your interpretation, but I feel discussing it any further would take us off topic. If you want to start a new thread on Daniel 7 please do and tag me in it so we could discuss further. I will leave you with this.Very very interesting your interpretation. I was reading Daniel 7 and compared with your true interpretation, and in my view the interpretation of Daniel 7 is , in part, as follow:
First I would say, according Scriptures, sea means humanity as you said, or peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues-Revelation 17:v.15, but GOD has separed Israel from the Gentiles by His Word, i.e. Gentiles on the one hand, but Israel on the other hand, and Israel is like an island in the sea, i.e. the clay or the dry land. It's how I particularly interpret it. That said, here's my interpretation of part of Daniel 7:
Verse 2 - Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Verse 3 - And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
(Interpreting the texts above)
1 - GREAT SEA -
Are all the Gentile nations;
2 - FOUR WINDS that strive upon the great sea -
Four kinds of Gentile Powers exclusively. They fight for dominion over the Earth successively. (Kingdoms/Empire)
3 - FOUR GREAT BEASTS (diverse one from another)
These great beasts, which are four, are four (Gentile) kings, which shall arise. (out of Israel/out of earth- so, Gentiles)
4 - (four great beats diverse one from another) -> Daniel 7:4 to 8 and 19 to 27
The first beast was like a lion,
The second like to a bear,
The third like a leopard,
The fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; it was diverse from all the (three) beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn (the ileventh horn, and in this little horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things-the false messiah)
This fourth beast is physically so ugly and hideous that there was no way to compare it with any animal, as in the first three animals. Even Israel, the GOD's chosen people, was dominated /swallowed by the fourth beast, and was broken in pieces, and the residue (the disciples of JESUS) were stamped / trodden with it's feet.
(10 horns are the 10 tribes of Israel, and the ileventh horn, the little horn, and it is/ will be the false messiah who will manifest himself very soon. Everything that is happening on Earth now, and will happen from now on, will lead the world unto the false messiah, who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit or will be enthroned as God in JERUSALEM shewing himself that he is God).
May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
Thank you sister, my intention only was to add some thoughts through Daniel 7, it within your line of interpretation. No discussion.Thank you for your interpretation, but I feel discussing it any further would take us off topic. If you want to start a new thread on Daniel 7 please do and tag me in it so we could discuss further. I will leave you with this.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
OT and NT it has always been by faith and walking in obedience to God's commands that makes all a child of God.
I would love to discuss Daniel 7 with you further, but I would be going off topic with that.Thank you sister, my intention only was to add some thoughts through Daniel 7, it within your line of interpretation. No discussion.
But allow me, even more this time, within your line of interpretation, where you say, "OT and NT it has always been by faith and walking in obedience to God's commands that makes all a child of God.", to remember that from now on GOD will give power unto the OT and NT , His two witnesses, the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks (two Churches-Jewish and Gentile) standing before the God of the earth-the Holy Spirit-the Paraclete. Both Churches -two candlesticks- shall prophesy having power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy, i.e. the Dispensation of greace shall end , and they shall have power over waters (over peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues) to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will, and it until the manifestation of the Beast of the earth at his time -the false messiah-, the AoD, who will make War against GOD's people-the two Churches-two witnesses- but before, the first Beast, the Beast of sea, will be mortally wounded in one of his 7 heads-Revelation 13:2, whose roots come from Babylon-Daniel 7:v.4-Take a look.
May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
What about all those before the day of Pentecost or for that matter before Christ's ministry here on earth?Baptismal regeneration in Christ!
Matt 28:19 Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5 Jn 3:22 acts 2:38-39 acts 8:36-38 acts 22:16 Titus 3:5 1 pet 3:21
Under the new covenant of God's grace through faith, Ephesians 2:8-10, we do accept Christ as our personal Lord and Savior because if confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and will believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.Faith & Baptism is the initiation of the new and eternal covenant!
You cannot enter on you’re own or by “faith alone”!
You cannot receive Christ or grace by “faith alone”!
“Accept Christ as you’re personal lord and savior” is fundamentalist tradition not found scripture!
They received grace in virtue of the merits of Christ’s future passion and death. Jn 1:29 Lk 1:37 thanksWhat about all those before the day of Pentecost or for that matter before Christ's ministry here on earth?
Explain Jn 3:22 please?Under the new covenant of God's grace through faith, Ephesians 2:8-10, we do accept Christ as our personal Lord and Savior because if confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and will believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
This is the Spiritual rebirth and Spiritual regeneration of John 3:5-7. One is born of water as in living water meaning by hearing the word preached to you as faith comes by hearing and then believing in who Jesus says He is is as the word means living water and then we are indwelled with the Holy Spirit.
There is no such thing as Catholic sacraments in scripture as there is no such thing as channels of the grace of God as grace is a free gift that we accept by faith, nothing more, nothing less. What draws us closer to God is by having fellowship with Him. The seven sacraments are only Catholic doctrine and not found in scripture. It all begins by faith alone in Christ Jesus.
As to [what makes us children of God], I’d have to define what salvation Level is meant.My dear Brothers and Sisters, what do you get from these verses? We are part of a Germanity of Israel, Our Kinship is unto God as Sons and Daughters and to ourselves as Brothers and Sisters, but what makes us Children of God? It is the Name Israel, which is the Name of God that binds us to one another through the teaching of the Scripture, your Name is Israel and it is the Covenant established by God that we take this Name upon ourselves in Spirit and enter into The Holy House of Israel which is The Kingdom of Heaven. Here are the scripture verses that teach us our place as a Holy Family, as Sons and Daughters of God and Inheritors of the Kingdom of Heaven.
ESV Deuteronomy 14:1-2 <<< 1 You are the sons of the Lord your God. You shall not cut yourselves or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead. 2 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.>>>
ESV Hosea 11:1-2 <<< 1 When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son. The more they were called, the more they went away; they kept sacrificing to the Baals and burning offerings to idols.>>> (verifies that Israel is the Name of God’s children)
ESV Isaiah 44:5 <<< 5 This one will say, ‘I am the Lord’s,’ another will call on the name of Jacob, and another will write on his hand, ‘The Lord’s,’ and name himself by the name of Israel.>>>
ESV Jeremiah 31:21-22 <<< 21 …Return, O virgin Israel, return to these your cities. 22 How long will you waver, O faithless daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing on the earth: a woman encircles a man.”>>>
In these previous verses it establishes that we are indeed the Sons and Daughters of God and that our Name is Israel, from this we are supposed to gather that we are a collective, a Nation even, because of our shared name and though we may take the name upon ourselves it was given by God and why did God give us this name? Because it is His Name and he wishes to draw you into a closer relationship with Him and each other that there might be established a lasting peace on earth.
KJVA [[[modernized text a bit]]] Baruch 2:15 <<< 15 That all the earth may know that thou art the Lord our God, because Israel and his children are called by thy name. >>>
ESV John 17:6 <<< 6 I have manifested Your Name to the people…>>>
ESV John 17:11 <<< 11 And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father keep them in Your Name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.>>>
ESV 2 Samuel 7:13-15 <<< 13 He shall build a house for My Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men, 15 but my steadfast love will not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away from before you.>>>
ESV Matthew 15:24 <<< He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.”>>>
ESV John 1:12-13 <<< 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His Name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.>>>
The power to become Sons and Daughters of God was given to us through scripture, to sanctify us and make us clean of sins, to draw us into a deeper unity with the Holy Spirit and each other, a Nation was born thousands of years ago and their prophets divinely inspired set into motion a revelation to unite all of humanity and create a Holy House, a Holy Nation. God’s Chosen people to carryout his mission on Earth, to purge the world of Evil and supplant it with Divinity.
ESV Revelation 12:5 <<< 5 She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne,>>>
ESV Exodus 20:7 <<< 7 “You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.>>>
ESV Matthew 16:24 <<<< Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.>>>
The definition of vain is to be conceited about oneself. It is profane that man should declare himself to be God, which is why it is a commandment not to take Our Father’s Name in Vain. Not to try to make ourselves God, but in the Bible there are scripture verses which promote this vanity saying that we are gods, this is why Christ asks us to deny ourselves, to deny any deification and to take up our Cross as the Name of the Heirs are entwined with God. God willed it that we should inherit His Kingdom.
ESV Jeremiah 34:15 <<< 15 “You recently repented and did what was right in my eyes by proclaiming liberty, each to his neighbor, and you made a covenant before me in the House that is called by My Name.”>>>>
Now that the Message has been revealed to you, oh House of Israel, will you not do what your Father has tasked you with and spread His Revelation? Who of you will believe in The Name of Christ? Are your eyes opened to the scripture? Will you help build a House for the Name of God?
What do you mean by the merits of Christ's future passion and death? What are those merits?They received grace in virtue of the merits of Christ’s future passion and death. Jn 1:29 Lk 1:37 thanks
Mary is nothing more than a blessed woman that God predestinated that would birth the Christ Child. She is no different then all who God used in the Bible.Born again new birth from Mary our new spiritual mother, those who are “in Christ” are a new creation. And we were in Christ who was in Mary for nine months and Mary gave birth to Christ and us Her spiritual children. Lk 1:30, Lk 1:38, Jn 19:36-38, rev 12:17