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Bible Study What's In Your Wallet

for_his_glory

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Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 but though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


This is something that amazes me as I can not perceive what goes through the minds of those who know truth, but yet ignore truth and sell themselves out for another’s distorted gospel so they can feel socially acceptable in the eyes of others, but yet allow themselves to be condemned by their own actions. Are we more concerned by what others think of us or should we be concerned what God sees in us as His servant that needs to be letting the light of Christ shine through us to present a Gospel of truth to others instead a gospel of carnal interpretations.

How ironic is it that I can read and study the word of God by allowing the Holy Spirit teach me first so I am Spiritually equipped to take Gods word out into the world in all truths, but yet many others need to go to Seminary schools to be bound by the laws of government, to be taught by a man, which excludes the whole purpose of the Holy Spirit and puts God in a box only to be taken out to make one look Holy, but yet full of dead mans bones, Matthew 23:27.

Church and State are not separate, even though it should be. We allow ourselves to be bound by the laws of government in accordance to their mandated guidelines of how they perceive the so called Church of God should be set up for legal purpose, but only becomes a Church that renders unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, Matthew 12:17. Government laws need to be followed, but when those laws come against the word of God then they need to be void in our walk with the Lord as Gods laws are never changing.

Matthew 28:16-20 is our commission from Christ and set forth in His spoken word. There is an urgent call for those of us who will not compromise the word of God and will stand on that very foundation of faith that is Christ Jesus that we are also partakers in His life, death and resurrection taking no concern for ourselves what others can and will try to do to us, but surrender all of ourselves to Christ to be worthy of His glorious calling so we will always be pleasing to the Father in all things of servitude. Be not afraid of those who can kill you for there is nothing more they can do, but fear (respect) Him (God) that has power to cast into Hell, Luke 12:4,5.

We need to take the word of God out to a world that is being deceived by the one (Satan) who has set up his pawns and or puppets to teach his twisted word of God from the pulpits of this world as Satan uses those without Spiritual knowledge to deceive the hearts of seemingly good people to cause them to be separated unknowingly from the truth of Gods salvation through grace which will cause them to lose their very souls to Hell for the wages of sin is death, (sin here means to reject truth), but life is eternal for those who follow in the footsteps of Christ, Romans 6:23, as we must be born-again Spiritually through repentance and forgiveness that only comes by the grace of God to all who will call on the name of Jesus so they can see the Kingdom of Heaven, John 3:3-7.

The worlds stage is being set and the players are being selected to come against and take control over Jerusalem as we can see with our own eyes how the enemy (Satan) is coming against Gods promised land and the finale act will be The Dome of the Rock destroyed in order for Solomon’s Temple to be rebuilt as Satan will try to sit on the mount of the congregation on the side of the north, Isaiah 14:12-15. Yes, the urgency is great upon this earth and the inhabitants there upon it to know truth that will set them free from the very gates of Hell that wants to consume them.

2Thessalonians 2:3 let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


The falling away is happening even as I write this that many have removed themselves from the love of God by following after their own gods of power, money and greed as they become lovers of their own selves. People did not believe Noah and continued in their sins and died in their sins. We do not know the day or the hour of Christ return for His true Bride and like Noah we must be about our Fathers business until he sends his Son Christ Jesus to take us up to meet him in the air and we will hear those words of grace and mercy that says “Well done thou good and faithful servant “Matthew 25:21.
 
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Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
How ironic is it that I can read and study the word of God by allowing the Holy Spirit teach me first so I am Spiritually equipped to take Gods word out into the world in all truths, but yet many others need to go to Seminary schools to be bound by the laws of government, to be taught by a man, which excludes the whole purpose of the Holy Spirit and puts God in a box only to be taken out to make one look Holy, but yet full of dead mans bones, Matthew 23:27.

When Jesus chose His 12, He established what would be recognized in His day as a Yeshiva; i.e.: a seminary. Jesus taught the 12w; the 12 each taught an additional 10 men. (the 120) Then He sent them out to preach the Gospel to the world.

Jesus also put TEACHERS in the church (along with prophets, apostles, evangelists, and pastors) "...for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; (Eph 4:11-13 NKJV)

Paul was instructed by Gamaliel, one of the leading rabbis of the day in a teaching format the would also be recognized as the 1st century from of a seminary. Then he took the Gospel to the Gentiles, taught daily in the school of Tyrannus, and wrote most of the New Testament.

So, when you see Jesus and Paul, you make sure you tell them how they were wrong, OK? I'll hide and watch.:)

There are many seminaries that have lost their way and teach nonsense and heresy. (Like "Process Theology" and "Feminist Liberation Theology" and similar stupidity)

There are also many very good Bible Colleges and Seminaries where serious, believing, Spirit-filled, students can learn a lot more than than could on their own by being taught by believing, spirit-filled professors.

There are also many cults and whacked-out, sorta-christian, churches founded by people without formal training who claim to be "led by the Holy Spirit."

And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. (2Ti 2:2 NKJV) That's Paul telling his disciple, Titus, to TEACH others who will then TEACH the next generation. That's Paul prescribing PEOPLE doing TEACHING, not just individuals "being led by the Holy Spirit."
 
Even the Disciples with their carnal mind could not understand the teachings of Jesus, especially the parables Jesus taught, until they were filled with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2:1-4 and the Holy Spirit gave them knowledge and understanding of what they were taught by Jesus, John 14:26. Apart from the Holy Spirit man can teach us nothing, no seminary apart from the Holy Spirit can teach us anything, 1John 2:7.

You can't compare Jesus to Paul as Jesus was the word made flesh and Paul who had first persecuted Christians to death had His Spiritual learning from the Holy Spirit upon his conversion on the road to Damascus.

Never said all seminary schools are bad for I am sure there are good ones who teach through the Holy Spirit teaching them first just as there are carnal teachings and Spiritual teachings that come out of the pulpits. We are also instructed in 1John 4:1-4 to test the spirits that are teaching us as one is the Jezebel spirit of error and the other the spirit of truth that is the Holy Spirit.

The whole point is only the Holy Spirit can teach us.
 
You can't compare Jesus to Paul as Jesus was the word made flesh and Paul who had first persecuted Christians to death had His Spiritual learning from the Holy Spirit upon his conversion on the road to Damascus.

I didn't compare them. I gave them as two examples of teachers teaching in a seminary-like setting.

Never said all seminary schools are bad for I am sure there are good ones

You didn't say that.

The whole point is only the Holy Spirit can teach us.

So do you think Jesus was wrong to put human teachers in the church?
 
I just opened my wallet, I havnt used it for a long time, all thats in there is an expired drivers licence, a old mcdonalds fry stuck in the bottom corner, someones phone number scrunched up on a piece of paper, and a 5 cent coin.
 
I just opened my wallet, I havnt used it for a long time, all thats in there is an expired drivers licence, a old mcdonalds fry stuck in the bottom corner, someones phone number scrunched up on a piece of paper, and a 5 cent coin.
Start over and get a new wallet.
 
When Eve listened to her own thoughts and Adam listened to his wife.

As the Most High sya. The thoughts of all man are evil.

Everyone must be born again.
Dan,
Let's be fair and honest. God created Adam and though Adam was perfect, he was the only one of his kind anywhere. Adam was alone and after some period of time, long or short, only the Father knows. Then God comes along, makes Adam fall into a deep sleep and performs surgery on him and from the removed rib, God create a knock me over dead, drop dead beautiful, naked, long and lanky blue eyed, blond woman.

Then this babe, the absolute finest thing that has ever happened to him and Adam knows the Law given him about the tree of knowledge but without eve, who wants to live anyway.


Somebody, ¿Reba? mentioned our falling away began in the Garden... you see, Adam knew he would be disobeying God but he wanted, he lusted after. He was much to much just like Bill Taylor.
 
I just opened my wallet, I havnt used it for a long time, all thats in there is an expired drivers licence, a old mcdonalds fry stuck in the bottom corner, someones phone number scrunched up on a piece of paper, and a 5 cent coin.

Sooooo....no guitar pick???

Wow!
 
You would be surpised what a peice of folded paper, a licence, a 5 cent coin, and a hard mcdonald chip can produce.

I have many guitar picks in my wallet.
Being in combat, new picks are slow arriving, but a piece of bamboo cut just right, or a 3x5 card folded and cut properly or a piece of a rubber tire tread whittled and rubbed against the sandy ground can get a body through a night... when needed.
 
Being in combat, new picks are slow arriving, but a piece of bamboo cut just right, or a 3x5 card folded and cut properly or a piece of a rubber tire tread whittled and rubbed against the sandy ground can get a body through a night... when needed.

The middle strip in a packet of zig zags, folded. Good for strumming.
 
I think I see where for_his_glory has some good points. I grew up PCUSA. In large part because of the things taught at seminary, a lot of PCUSA ministers have sort of become...err...I guess "post-Christian" would be a good term. I think sometimes the most well-regarded seminaries can be the most dangerous.

At the same time...without some sort of structure, there can be cults and scammers and flim-flammers, like Jim Parker pointed out. I'm also kind of curious about how seminary schools can take student aid $$$$. That's strange to me, and I think maybe it shouldn't be allowed. But I dunno...I don't have a firm opinion (I'm thinking about Liberty's programs, which are eligible for student aid @ the masters and doctoral levels in theology and such).

So...what to do? Education is good, but I think sometimes higher ed kills faith and inspiration. I'm not trying to sound anti-education or anything, but...it seems that many people get a bit puffed up with advanced degrees. Actually..it happens at the undergraduate level, too.

How does the church ensure that the leaders and teachers have an adequate skill and knowledge base, plus critical thinking and analytical skills, without relying too heavily on credentials? Or should the church rely on credentials even w/ some of the risks invovled?>
 
I didn't compare them. I gave them as two examples of teachers teaching in a seminary-like setting.



You didn't say that.



So do you think Jesus was wrong to put human teachers in the church?

What is human without the Holy Spirit is carnal and will teach from a carnal understanding taught by the traditions of logic that has no true knowledge. God calls His ministers and equips them through the guidance of the Holy Spirit just as Jesus called His twelve and they were equipped by the Holy Spirit before they went out to preach. Even Paul had to be indwelled and taught by the Holy Spirit first before he went out on his first mission trip. If one is considering Seminary school they need to pray and ask the Holy Spirit to guide them to the right school. There are many teachers and religions out in the world, but not all are of God. Anyone can go online and get ordained, but does that truly qualify them to teach, no, as it is only by the call of God and the Holy Spirit equipping us to teach in all truths that qualifies one to teach another as in an assembling setting.

BTW, this is what I said about Seminary schools and notice where I said taught by a man. Not all teachers have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

How ironic is it that I can read and study the word of God by allowing the Holy Spirit teach me first so I am Spiritually equipped to take Gods word out into the world in all truths, but yet many others need to go to Seminary schools to be bound by the laws of government, to be taught by a man, which excludes the whole purpose of the Holy Spirit and puts God in a box only to be taken out to make one look Holy, but yet full of dead mans bones, Matthew 23:27.
 
I think I see where for_his_glory has some good points. I grew up PCUSA. In large part because of the things taught at seminary, a lot of PCUSA ministers have sort of become...err...I guess "post-Christian" would be a good term. I think sometimes the most well-regarded seminaries can be the most dangerous.

At the same time...without some sort of structure, there can be cults and scammers and flim-flammers, like Jim Parker pointed out. I'm also kind of curious about how seminary schools can take student aid $$$$. That's strange to me, and I think maybe it shouldn't be allowed. But I dunno...I don't have a firm opinion (I'm thinking about Liberty's programs, which are eligible for student aid @ the masters and doctoral levels in theology and such).

So...what to do? Education is good, but I think sometimes higher ed kills faith and inspiration. I'm not trying to sound anti-education or anything, but...it seems that many people get a bit puffed up with advanced degrees. Actually..it happens at the undergraduate level, too.

How does the church ensure that the leaders and teachers have an adequate skill and knowledge base, plus critical thinking and analytical skills, without relying too heavily on credentials? Or should the church rely on credentials even w/ some of the risks invovled?>

This is what it all boils down to is what credentials one has to have in order to teach the word of God. The Government requires a license to be a Pastor or an Evangelist. I was a licensed Evangelist through the State of Pennsylvania at one time for the purpose of Ministry, but I obtained my license through the training of the Church I attended as I had to attend certain classes taught by the Pastor. The classes were an outlined guide given by the Government in order to obtain a license, but the classes were taught by the Pastor who had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to teach and equip me in the word of God before I could go out into the world as I was not only representing God who called me as His minister, but also representing the integrity of the Church. The Church is no longer in existence and so I never renewed the license, but that doesn't mean I am no longer called of God, but given a different direction by God.
 
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