Whats your thoughts on the covid vaccine?

When we eat poison, fast food and sodas, preprocessed foods with poisonous preservatives, then we can expect negative results.

The Lord says His people perish for lack of knowledge.

There are various ways a person can stay healthy, if they desire to.

Any physician who pushes pills and vaccines rather than eatibg healthy and exercising is worth hearing.


Again, here is the truth from our Lord.


Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Matthew 9:12


This tells me that a perfectly healthy person doesnt need an experimental so called "vaccine" that doesnt prevent a person from dying from the disease, or from spreading it to others and that causes severe heart problems and death.

If you see it differently then by all means get the "vaccine" and all the "boosters" that go with it.




JLB
And, yet, “perfectly healthy” people died from COVID. “Perfectly healthy” people die from influenza. “Perfectly healthy” people die all the time from causes both unknown and ones that could have been detected by simply visiting a doctor. Your misuse of that verse is exceedingly dangerous advice.
 
And, yet, “perfectly healthy” people died from COVID.

Yes, and perfectly healthy people have died from the Covid Vaccine, because they were lied to.

Now we are seeing that those were Vaccinated and died from Covid, have surpassed those who were not.


Now it’s officially a pandemic of the vaccinated.





JLB
 
Yes, and perfectly healthy people have died from the Covid Vaccine, because they were lied to.
Maybe a few died, but that unfortunately happens from vaccines on occasion.

Now we are seeing that those were Vaccinated and died from Covid, have surpassed those who were not.
Do you have evidence?

Now it’s officially a pandemic of the vaccinated.
I highly doubt that.
 
When we eat poison, fast food and sodas, preprocessed foods with poisonous preservatives, then we can expect negative results.

The Lord says His people perish for lack of knowledge.

There are various ways a person can stay healthy, if they desire to.

Any physician who pushes pills and vaccines rather than eatibg healthy and exercising is worth hearing.


Again, here is the truth from our Lord.


Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Matthew 9:12


This tells me that a perfectly healthy person doesnt need an experimental so called "vaccine" that doesnt prevent a person from dying from the disease, or from spreading it to others and that causes severe heart problems and death.

If you see it differently then by all means get the "vaccine" and all the "boosters" that go with it.




JLB
No one is perfectly healthy .

You can eat right ,run and pass heart test machine and keel over from a heart attack .

Heard of it.

My point here is you also can use that same logic against other modern medicine things .

I'm not a fan of the vaccine but it's neither also as you claim .
 
No one is perfectly healthy .

You can eat right ,run and pass heart test machine and keel over from a heart attack .

Heard of it.

My point here is you also can use that same logic against other modern medicine things .

I'm not a fan of the vaccine but it's neither also as you claim .

Tens of thousands of doctors worldwide, who have not been bought off by big Pharma are warning against the vaccine.

They are physicians.


Do you believe them?
 
Tens of thousands of doctors worldwide, who have not been bought off by big Pharma are warning against the vaccine.

They are physicians.


Do you believe them?
Ah that again .

No names etc.
Look locally we have physicians leaving the hospital over how it forces them to rush patients in and out .

They often simply stop practicing or move and start anew out of the area.
 
My pastors wife is a pa ,er experience,ob GYN and physical rehab with geriatrics ,and virology.

She I trust over the internet .I have doubts in the vaccine myself .my wife hardly a conservative won't get more over the heart issue .

If I worried as much as jlb about unessary risk .I would exit my state. My state has problem of insuring homes for storms . I would not own two guns .my wife badgered me into getting them .
PTSD is why but it's under control .life is risk. I read meters in lightning ,I have read meters while drug dealers were making money ,shootings that day .

My risk of death is higher from my diet and other issues then the vaccine.

Heart disease and colon cancer run high in my family . But dat vaccine doo

Not once did I imply here that a mandate is needful or mask mandates etc.
 
I'm SUPER aware my story isn't the first I'm just sharing my experience which is what you do on a forum lol

As for the rest of your reply I don't really have much to say lol I see Free already replied to you

I suppose you guys should agree to disagree and not argue (if it seems like it's going to go that way)
Well, my original post was only answering you as is most threads only replying to the OP. Not sure what happened to get involved in anything, but I feel for you and you are in my prayers. Yours is not the first story I heard of this type. There are no long term studies on this particular vaccine (only that of similar) despite Facebook and the like pushing their agenda that this vaccine was through vigorous studies for safety. I am a Christian soldier for truth, and I dislike when such kindred spirits are ostracized for saying the King has no clothes.
 
Well, my original post was only answering you as is most threads only replying to the OP. Not sure what happened to get involved in anything, but I feel for you and you are in my prayers. Yours is not the first story I heard of this type. There are no long term studies on this particular vaccine (only that of similar) despite Facebook and the like pushing their agenda that this vaccine was through vigorous studies for safety. I am a Christian soldier for truth, and I dislike when such kindred spirits are ostracized for saying the King has no clothes.
I think since the pandemic has calmed down they REALLY need to reevaluate the vaccines, study them properly and refine them
 
Vaccinated or not everyone should be using a NeilMed® SINUS RINSE™ . My wife and I have been using the sinus rinse and the only covid we had was a very light omicron variant , like a mild cold . We are not covid vaccinated .
 
Tens of thousands of doctors worldwide, who have not been bought off by big Pharma are warning against the vaccine.

They are physicians.


Do you believe them?
CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.

The vast majority of physicians advised people to take the COVID-19 vaccines. Do you believe them?

The bandwagon argument is a huge loser for anti-vaxxers.
 
I’m thankful 🥲 for the vaccine. I keep up with vaccines and boosters. Not too long ago I saw an out of town friend and her bf for coffee. He seemed surly and under the weather. And then…

The text message. He got truly sick after the coffee outing and tested positive for Covid. And…

That explained my own relatively mild bout of illness lol 😆
 
CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.

The vast majority of physicians advised people to take the COVID-19 vaccines. Do you believe them?

The bandwagon argument is a huge loser for anti-vaxxers.


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As the percentage of vaccinated Americans went from 0.0% to about 80%, the number of vaccinated people dying increased. You really can't figure out why that would be?

Seriously?

What matters is the percentage of deaths for vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Here's the facts you deleted from that article:

Indeed, vaccinated people now make up the majority of the population – 79% of adults have completed at least the primary series – and the latest CDC data show that vaccinated people also now represent the majority of COVID-19 deaths. There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes. That’s why, when CDC adjusts for some of these factors (age and population size), we still see that unvaccinated people are at much greater risk of death and other severe outcomes than people the same age who have stayed up-to-date on boosters. Older people are at greater risk for severe illness and death from COVID-19 than younger people, but vaccines and boosters still lower that risk substantially.

It's not just in the U.S.:

Unvaccinated 11 to 17 times more likely to die

During the study period, 1,194,694 COVID-19 infections in patients with complete vaccination history (73.6% of all cases) were reported to PHAC. Most infected patients were unvaccinated, and the lowest percentage of infections was among those who received a primary COVID-19 vaccination series and one booster dose.

Even the chart you posted says that unvaccinated people are twice as likely to die of COVID-19 than vaccinated.people. Who would be dumb enough to challenge odds like that?
 
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As the percentage of vaccinated Americans went from 0.0% to about 80%, the number of vaccinated people dying increased. You really can't figure out why that would be?

Seriously?

What matters is the percentage of deaths for vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Here's the facts you deleted from that article:

Indeed, vaccinated people now make up the majority of the population – 79% of adults have completed at least the primary series – and the latest CDC data show that vaccinated people also now represent the majority of COVID-19 deaths. There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes. That’s why, when CDC adjusts for some of these factors (age and population size), we still see that unvaccinated people are at much greater risk of death and other severe outcomes than people the same age who have stayed up-to-date on boosters. Older people are at greater risk for severe illness and death from COVID-19 than younger people, but vaccines and boosters still lower that risk substantially.

It's not just in the U.S.:

Unvaccinated 11 to 17 times more likely to die

During the study period, 1,194,694 COVID-19 infections in patients with complete vaccination history (73.6% of all cases) were reported to PHAC. Most infected patients were unvaccinated, and the lowest percentage of infections was among those who received a primary COVID-19 vaccination series and one booster dose.

Even the chart you posted says that unvaccinated people are twice as likely to die of COVID-19 than vaccinated.people. Who would be dumb enough to challenge odds like that?

Did you read this part.

CDC -

the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data show that about 6 in 10 adults dying of COVID-19 were vaccinated or boosted


As per the CDC more people are dying from COVID 19 that were vaccinated and boosted than those who were not.
 
Did you read this part.

CDC -

the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data show that about 6 in 10 adults dying of COVID-19 were vaccinated or boosted


As per the CDC more people are dying from COVID 19 that were vaccinated and boosted than those who were not.
That's the problem or challenge with statistics. Since over 80% of the total population in the US has had some form of the Covid-19 vaccination, it stands to reason that of those that become infected with the covid virus there's a possible 4:1 odds that they also have been vaccinated, therefore, the odds of a previously vaccinated person dying due to complications from Covid-19 is also higher just due to sheer numbers.

If there was some way to prove that those who die would have lived had they never been vaccinated, that might be worthwhile, but I don't know how that could be proved.
 
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The vast majority of physicians advised people to take the COVID-19 vaccines. Do you believe them?

The bandwagon argument is a huge loser for anti-vaxxers.
When the Phiser vaccine first received FDA approval, I was extremely skeptical. The reason was that there is about a 10 or 12 step process for approving new drugs or vaccines outlined by the FDA and you can find it on their website. Essentially, the process involves controlled testing using three test groups, each a little larger, with time between the tests to monitor for side effects and effectiveness. That process was circumvented due to the urgent nature of the situation and for me I felt the risk was too high for my blood. The fastest any vaccine had ever been able to get approved before was with the polio vaccine and that one took 6 years to obtain approval. We have not yet gone 6 years since Covid-19 hit the public.

That said, eventually my doctor, who told me that he was a supporter of vaccines in general, talked me into receiving the Phiser vaccine a couple years ago and I have since received three boosters. Last fall, since the virus is not nearly as threatening as it once was, he did back off on recommending the boosters saying it was up to me if I wanted to get it or not.

Why did I allow my doctor to talk me into it? Keeping in mind that I question my doctor and discuss my treatments all the time rather than just taking his word for everything, I did recognize that I hire him for his professional expertise and I trust his judgement. So, after we discussed it and I knew it was the Phiser, which at the time was the only FDA approved version, I elected to go ahead and get the vaccine. So far, I have not experienced any ill effects that I am aware of. Whether I continue getting the boosters every fall, is to be determined.
 
To me, getting the vaccine, especially one that had employed a totally new technology that had never been used on humans before, had not been subject to standard approval processes outlined by the governing authority, and had not already had a proven track record, should have been a personal decision between the patient and his/her doctor and it should have been illegal to force people to receive it or lose their careers or be subjected to character assassinations like some were.
 
I dunno 🤷‍♂️

I guess it’s every person for himself in modern society. Historically people have often rejoiced when vaccines became available for deadly illnesses…
 
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