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Where is the 'Mark' to be gotten??

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Elijah674

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RCC threads

I thought this was obvious, but I guess it's not.

RCC topics in this Forum Must somehow relate to a person's End Times belief and how the RCC fits into said belief.

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John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

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OK: Lets give it a heave ho & hope that it means what it says??
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Mark of the Beast.
“The observance of the Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay in spite of themselves to the authority of the Catholic church.’’
-Monsignor Louis Segar, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today, page 213.

Simply put.. most all agree with this!
The Mark will be done by Caesar, because it takes HIS power to finally execute the opposing ones & this decree is in their Rom. 13 hands. And of course the USA Supreme Court is in the Roman hands and Catholics ‘leadership are in no hurry for ALL the daughter to come on back home. (church state)

And Rom. 13?? It will be so worn out in perverting its true meaning that who will know its true meaning!

And most all will say ‘we have no king but Caesar’ as recorded by their lives lived. (and with all of hell breaking loose these ones of Matt. 24:21 will do anything to satisfy a ‘g’od, except repent)

Now we see ALL the daughter come back to MOTHER ROME. Which only requires the Words of Christ’s as seen in Matt. 6:24
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the total of LOVE is Obedience. And Who really LOVES CHRIST???

--Elijah



 
Elijah674 said:
RCC topics in this Forum Must somehow relate to a person's End Times belief and how the RCC fits into said belief.
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The RCC is relevant to End Times prophecy. RCC is not the whore, the papacy is not the antichrist.......

Revelation 18
16 and saying, Wo, wo, the great city, that was arrayed with fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and gilded in gold, and precious stone, and pearls -- because in one hour so much riches were made waste!
22 and voice of harpers, and musicians, and pipers, and trumpeters, may not be heard at all in thee any more; and any artizan of any art may not be found at all in thee any more; and noise of a millstone may not be heard at all in thee any more;
23 and light of a lamp may not shine at all in thee any more; and voice of bridegroom and of bride may not be heard at all in thee any more; because thy merchants were the great ones of the earth, because in thy sorcery were all the nations led astray,
24 and in her blood of prophets and of saints was found, and of all those who have been slain on the earth.'

Now you can find all of these things describe Jerusalem in all her glory.

Since when did the RCC kill prophets ??

Who did God tell to wear fine linen (not mixed)?

Did the RCC worship the Lord with harps, pipes, trumps? No

Who was the bride of the bridegroom? The RCC? No
 
oops, i guess the concept of all doesn't mean all to the futurist.

24 and in her blood of prophets and of saints was found, and of all those who have been slain on the earth.'
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Christians were martyred by the communists, the muslims and also jews, Buddhists. so this cant be the rcc alone. but the only statement made by Christ aligns with this and we know where that is its in matthew 23.
 
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Keep this warning/section of the ToS, in mind as we post here....
 
The mark of the beast stands in contrast to the mark of God. You don't have to get a mark from anywhere, because you mark yourself through your beliefs and actions. It is a beast that rages against that which it doesn't understand. Think about that next time somebody indiscriminately slanders Roman Catholic Christians in the name of God.
 
Sinthesis said:
The mark of the beast stands in contrast to the mark of God. You don't have to get a mark from anywhere, because you mark yourself through your beliefs and actions. It is a beast that rages against that which it doesn't understand. Think about that next time somebody indiscriminately slanders Roman Catholic Christians in the name of God.
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Who runs the USA SUPREME court? [[Church + State]]

--Elijah
 
jasoncran said:
I agree synthesis. I guess Elijah wouldn't mind us slandering the sda over david Koresh.
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No I have no problem with this, but the clean-up lady might have??

As long as the slandering is HONEST in Truthfulness.

--Elijah
 
you blame the modern rcc for what the past the rcc did do. the fact is that the roman catholic church isn't perfect.i don't agree with a lot of what they do. but, and big BUT you said this. remember this well. I am a Hebrew, I know full well what the Christian so called churched did to my kin. I don't forget but I also don't hold the Lutherans, the catholics and others of today. I don't hold you as you were alive when this so called Christian nation turned my kin on a boat away to to their deaths. so please. step aside with your bias and see what the bible does say. it doesn't mention the rcc at all.america in the 30's knew and did nothing to stop the murdering of jews. we got involved because we started to see the man hitler was mad. if hitler didn't attack other nations. he would have been able to murder the jews more and more.if you doubt that then tell me why stalin murdered more men in the purges of his that total 30 million vs hitler's six million.

Who runs the USA SUPREME court? [[Church + State]]
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the popes in the past have stood against abortion and gay marriage. that is there positions. the rcc has refused to let gays adopt.just because they are catholics on the supreme court doesn't mean they rcc agrees with them or that they are really catholics. is it fair then for me then say the same about the sda given the fact a sect of it was involved in the Waco massacre! yes or no!
 
Elijah674 said:
Sinthesis said:
The mark of the beast stands in contrast to the mark of God. You don't have to get a mark from anywhere, because you mark yourself through your beliefs and actions. It is a beast that rages against that which it doesn't understand. Think about that next time somebody indiscriminately slanders Roman Catholic Christians in the name of God.
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Who runs the USA SUPREME court? [[Church + State]]

--Elijah
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No, it is the US constitution and legal precedent as interpreted by the justices.
 
What is to be done with Joshua 7????
OK... then verse 12
(Joshua 7:12)

I suppose that it is in the 'lower class' that both God & Jesus do indeed change!
Mal. 3:6 & Heb. 13:8-9

--Elijah
 
It is ALWAYS the same thing, DISOBEDIENCE!

[Law Breaking]

--Elijah
 
I understand how the RC really can look like the image of the beast...., what if the image is talking about the concept and creation of organized christian religion in union with violent beast like empires? After Rome fell the created 'church' continued to rule and grew into many different groups. This happen to the Jews also by the time Jesus came the religious leaders were no longer true to the faith.

I agree that Babylon is not the same as the image of the beast.

As time goes by I find myself looking for everything that could be viewed as the opposite to God's plan.

Kingdom of God vs Kingdoms of mankind (beasts)

City of God vs cites/civilization of mankind (babylon)

Son of God vs Image of the beast
Colossians 1:15 NAS

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

2Cor4:4
.....that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Matthew 24:24 NAS

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

I feel very strongly that the man of lawlessness is this same image of the beast.

4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. (I think there are different words that could be used in place of 'so-called' that help with seeing the vs with different meaning)

When I read this I see him exalting himself above Jesus and the 'displaying himself' as the same act of creating the image of the beast because images are put on display for all to see.

Digging
 
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digging said:
I understand how the RC really can look like the image of the beast...., what if the image is talking about the concept and creation of organized christian religion in union with violent beast like empires? After Rome fell the created 'church' continued to rule and grew into many different groups. This happen to the Jews also by the time Jesus came the religious leaders were no longer true to the faith.

I agree that Babylon is not the same as the image of the beast.

As time goes by I find myself looking for everything that could be viewed as the opposite to God's plan.

Kingdom of God vs Kingdoms of mankind (beasts)

City of God vs cites/civilization of mankind (babylon)

Son of God vs Image of the beast
Colossians 1:15 NAS

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

2Cor4:4
.....that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Matthew 24:24 NAS

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

I feel very strongly that the man of lawlessness is this same image of the beast.

4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. (I think there are different words that could be used in place of 'so-called' that help with seeing the vs with different meaning)

When I read this I see him exalting himself above Jesus and the 'displaying himself' as the same act of creating the image of the beast because images are put on display for all to see.

Digging
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Well keep digging!;)
But this site is looking for answers me think'im?

--Elijah
 
Here is one more scripture to consider, the image in Daniel of the great man of metals, it's an image of a single man but it's a symbol for a great collective work of humankind. I tend to believe that all of these symbols(beasts, image, babylon) of Revelation are also collectives created by people. The same way believers become part of the body od Christ.

Digging
 
We all have a brain to think with.
All hell (term) is now breaking LOOSE!
We got to get the Lords attention!
SO: What comes next? (and we are all professed Christian's!)
 
The mark is on the head or forehand. This is no indication of any Technology as God has never needed anything to keep track of his with something visible.

Wall-mart had also advertised some things "Marked Down" This may be where you can get the mark at discount prices. I have yet to verify if it's the same Mark spoken about in Rev. I need to check my sources.

Blessings.

Mike.
 
Wal-Mark? Home of the lowest prices on the mark o' da beast? Of course the mark would be imported Chinese junk sold below cost, cuz that's how they control who buys and who sells.:wave
 
We all have a brain to think with.
All hell (term) is now breaking LOOSE!
We got to get the Lords attention!
SO: What comes next? (and we are all professed Christian's!)

The above...are you referring to this below??

Elijah674 said:
And most all will say ‘we have no king but Caesar’ as recorded by their lives lived. (and with all of hell breaking loose these ones of Matt. 24:21 will do anything to satisfy a ‘g’od, except repent)
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Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

I would think that many would be making a final decision on whom they will choose to serve and worship for that matter.
 
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