Who is bad or who is good

[johnfowler1551]

Is Russia bad or is us. The bible says the countries that help Iran Syria turkey Ethiopia and maybe another is gog n Magog. Who is helping those countries? I'm lost on who to believe. Acts says don't join the empire. I depend on some of it. Who is the good and who is the evil?

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Apparently all of this comes from your own mind since you say you are Michael the Archangel sent down by God and you need no book. Is that because God is giving you what to speak to us in all truth?

Yeah that's a joke based on what it says in books of the Bible that predict Michael the Archangel will be born physically and exist as a person in the Great Tribulation. It's a play on possibility that why couldn't it be me right? I have a strange sense of humor.

Edit: Also, the Tribulation and end times prophecies are known to me almost entirely by either just reading or even without reading it. I can piece it all together in conjunction with the world as we see it, and it baffles me how I'm the only one who knows the true meaning and so I'm here to share what I know.

 

[GodsGrace]

Because then it is also talking about people. From what I see, the people and the nations will both be judged as goats and sheep and it is apparent that there will still be nations for Lucifer to deceive after the Millennial Reign.

Could be as you say.
I'm not too sure I even believe in this millennial everyone talks about.

Won't be adding much to this discussion....

The Italians have a saying...
Mille e non piu' mille.

IOW, the end was supposed to happen just before or just after the year 2,000.

I don't put much trust in eschatology.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

I don't know much about eschatology, but I do agree with you that the Kings of Europe have no power,
and the Vatican even less.

The banks rule nowadays.

Italy has suffered much in the past 10 or so years just to appease bankers.

In fact Italy was invaded by another country, but for the first time it was so economically and politically based that it is not evident without researching it. Romans were mere civilians, with no standing army, and no merchants as the entire merchant class in the Roman Empire was institutionally Greek and in fact their language was spoken by the Roman elite. A secret empire in what was labeled Byzantium invaded Rome with armies, a navy, and merchants and these assumed rule over governments, formed Renaissance kingdoms in Italy before unification, and they genocided the Latins. This is why Latin, once spoken by the majority of the known world, sum 70 million people, is now extinct as a language.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yeah that's a joke based on what it says in books of the Bible that predict Michael the Archangel will be born physically and exist as a person in the Great Tribulation. It's a play on possibility that why couldn't it be me right? I have a strange sense of humor.

Edit: Also, the Tribulation and end times prophecies are known to me almost entirely by either just reading or even without reading it. I can piece it all together in conjunction with the world as we see it, and it baffles me how I'm the only one who knows the true meaning and so I'm here to share what I know.

Now you really need to give book, chapter and vs about Michael being born physically during the great tribulation.

Oh Great Truth Master who has taken the place of the Holy Spirit, let me bow down to you who holds all truths.........NOT!!!

You do have a strange sense, but it sure isn't humor and to place yourself above the very Spirit of God is borderline blasphemy.

 

[GodsGrace]

In fact Italy was invaded by another country, but for the first time it was so economically and politically based that it is not evident without researching it. Romans were mere civilians, with no standing army, and no merchants as the entire merchant class in the Roman Empire was institutionally Greek and in fact their language was spoken by the Roman elite. A secret empire in what was labeled Byzantium invaded Rome with armies, a navy, and merchants and these assumed rule over governments, formed Renaissance kingdoms in Italy before unification, and they genocided the Latins. This is why Latin, once spoken by the majority of the known world, sum 70 million people, is now extinct as a language.

I have to agree.

The Vatican was also more powerful before unification.
Many of these Kings and Princes that you speak of were following the Pope at the time and were very much influenced by the Catholic church or the Protestant church and many wars were fought in the name of religion.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

I have to agree.

The Vatican was also more powerful before unification.
Many of these Kings and Princes that you speak of were following the Pope at the time and were very much influenced by the Catholic church or the Protestant church and many wars were fought in the name of religion.

Mhm, one thing I noticed is that during the first few centuries, the Pope had always been from Rome and well after the invasion by the Holy Roman Empire there started to be German popes, and after the fall of the Holy Roman Empire, by who knows, Popes are now elected from every country in the world. Surely not a powerful state as it once was.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Now you really need to give book, chapter and vs about Michael being born physically during the great tribulation.

Oh Great Truth Master who has taken the place of the Holy Spirit, let me bow down to you who holds all truths.........NOT!!!

You do have a strange sense, but it sure isn't humor and to place yourself above the very Spirit of God is borderline blasphemy.

You need only read one book about Michael the Archangel and it's the Bible. Although I could write a book about the obvious truth one day. Sure.

 

[for_his_glory]

You need only read one book about Michael the Archangel and it's the Bible. Although I could write a book about the obvious truth one day. Sure.

Daniel 10:12-21; 1Thessalonians 4:16; Jude 1:9 and Rev 12:7-9 are the only verses in the Bible that mention Michael the Archangel and he has never been sent down to teach us truth as only the Holy Spirit, being the very Spirit of God, can teach us all truths.

You are only 26 and have a lot of learning ahead of you my friend and in your enthusiasm to learn you are missing the full context of the scriptures as you mix so much into one pot, but it has no flavor.

Making statements that you are Michael the Archangel, even in jest, and that only you know all truths and need no book/Bible you are actually, without knowing it, grieving the Holy Spirit which is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that was sent to teach us in all truths and that is an unforgiveable sin.

You need to go back to the basics of God's salvation through Christ Jesus and allow the Holy Spirit teach you so we can have worthwhile discussions with you. I speak this in all sincerity to you.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Daniel 10:12-21; 1Thessalonians 4:16; Jude 1:9 and Rev 12:7-9 are the only verses in the Bible that mention Michael the Archangel and he has never been sent down to teach us truth as only the Holy Spirit, being the very Spirit of God, can teach us all truths.

You are only 26 and have a lot of learning ahead of you my friend and in your enthusiasm to learn you are missing the full context of the scriptures as you mix so much into one pot, but it has no flavor.

Making statements that you are Michael the Archangel, even in jest, and that only you know all truths and need no book/Bible you are actually, without knowing it, grieving the Holy Spirit which is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that was sent to teach us in all truths and that is an unforgiveable sin.

You need to go back to the basics of God's salvation through Christ Jesus and allow the Holy Spirit teach you so we can have worthwhile discussions with you. I speak this in all sincerity to you.

No you are trying your best to redeem yourself. Was it you who wrote a book? Well, you can't allow yourself to be proven wrong because of that and unfortunately that is a restrictive mindset. You can show me where my message is wrong or otherwise realize that getting me to accept your version is useless. And it just so happens that there are more verses about Michael the Archangel.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

These posts are really off the OP. Can the eschatology move to that section?

 

[Michael The Archangel]

These posts are really off the OP. Can the eschatology move to that section?

Alright, to help out I will start a new thread discussing Michael the Archangel in the Tribulation so there will be no more deviation on this thread.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Alright, to help out I will start a new thread discussing Michael the Archangel in the Tribulation so there will be no more deviation on this thread.

Thank you. That is kind of you.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Dorothy Mae
If you don't mind I'll add more about the good and bad nations from what I see.

It's true that all nations are currently bad, however there will be good nations that do what is right, such as the nations called the ten horns.​

These are the nations that unwittingly gave their authority to the beast nations, and they will be made to see what happened by the words of the saints.​

The words of the saints that make known the identity of the beast and how it came to own these ten horns will cause these ten nations to destroy it's monitary system including the Central Banks, Money Mints, Stock Exchanges, World Trade Centers, ...etc located inside them, which will make Babylon the Great a desolate city.​

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Here it is written in Revelations:​

"12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

The Seven Heads of the Beast that rule over you that you must warn in the words of your testimony is a hidden empire that includes: Greece, Italy, Turkey, Russia and Ukraine (Kievan Rus'), the Balkans, Scandinavia, and Egypt. These are the homeland with the true headquarters of the Beast that was once called Hellenes and Macedon (Gog and Magog), and the city that represents Babylon and currently rules over the world is Istanbul (Constantinople) with it's church headquarters and center of world finance.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Dorothy Mae
If you don't mind I'll add more about the good and bad nations from what I see.

It's true that all nations are currently bad, however there will be good nations that do what is right, such as the nations called the ten horns.​

These are the nations that unwittingly gave their authority to the beast nations, and they will be made to see what happened by the words of the saints.​

The words of the saints that make known the identity of the beast and how it came to own these ten horns will cause these ten nations to destroy it's monitary system including the Central Banks, Money Mints, Stock Exchanges, World Trade Centers, ...etc located inside them, which will make Babylon the Great a desolate city.​

​

Here it is written in Revelations:​

"12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

The Seven Heads of the Beast that rule over you that you must warn in the words of your testimony is a hidden empire that includes: Greece, Italy, Turkey, Russia and Ukraine (Kievan Rus'), the Balkans, Scandinavia, and Egypt. These are the homeland with the true headquarters of the Beast that was once called Hellenes and Macedon (Gog and Magog), and the city that represents Babylon and currently rules over the world is Istanbul (Constantinople) with it's church headquarters and center of world finance."

Ah, you made me laugh or at least smile. You mention good and bad and then zoomed into your eschatology. Ah well…I know the trick.

 

[GodsGrace]

Dorothy Mae
If you don't mind I'll add more about the good and bad nations from what I see.

It's true that all nations are currently bad, however there will be good nations that do what is right, such as the nations called the ten horns.​

These are the nations that unwittingly gave their authority to the beast nations, and they will be made to see what happened by the words of the saints.​

The words of the saints that make known the identity of the beast and how it came to own these ten horns will cause these ten nations to destroy it's monitary system including the Central Banks, Money Mints, Stock Exchanges, World Trade Centers, ...etc located inside them, which will make Babylon the Great a desolate city.​

​

Here it is written in Revelations:​

"12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

The Seven Heads of the Beast that rule over you that you must warn in the words of your testimony is a hidden empire that includes: Greece, Italy, Turkey, Russia and Ukraine (Kievan Rus'), the Balkans, Scandinavia, and Egypt. These are the homeland with the true headquarters of the Beast that was once called Hellenes and Macedon (Gog and Magog), and the city that represents Babylon and currently rules over the world is Istanbul (Constantinople) with it's church headquarters and center of world finance.

That's 8.
Should I move?
Where?

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Ah, you made me laugh or at least smile. You mention good and bad and then zoomed into your eschatology. Ah well…I know the trick.

That is the exact interpretation, however you are free to keep searching though you will never find another exact interpretation.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

That is the exact interpretation, however you are free to keep searching though you will never find another exact interpretation.

I known another more exact interpretation

 

[Dorothy Mae]

That's 8.
Should I move?
Where?

Most futurists leave the US out of dire predictions but not all. All leave Canada out so move there.

 

[PeterJens]

Is Russia bad or is us. The bible says the countries that help Iran Syria turkey Ethiopia and maybe another is gog n Magog. Who is helping those countries? I'm lost on who to believe. Acts says don't join the empire. I depend on some of it. Who is the good and who is the evil?

Interesting question.....

Where is truth and justice and the dealing fairly with the common man?
The Lord supports nations who deal well with the poor and down trodden, those with little and are in need of help.

Russia is a dictatorship run by a mafia boss called Putin. Object to him and you risk your life. If you are a political leader with a following, he will try and get you killed.

As far as freedom of religion and walking in the light, which country allows this to progress?
In the west if you want to start a church, no one is going to block you, or meet with fellow believers to worship Jesus.

A: Russia adopted a law making it unconstitutional to be a Christian, even though the (Russian) constitution says you are free to profess any faith. (The Yarovaya law increases regulation of evangelism, including a ban on the performance of “missionary activities” in non-religious settings.) https://arriveministries.org/living-as-a-persecuted-christian-in-russia/

Russia invaded the Ukraine and is driven by hatred of the people who have been painted as Nazi supporters. War crimes have been quoted and shown to have taken place, with torturing and abuse of civilians without regard to any consequences.

In the west we have a free press, and the internet which is showing part of the suffering of the Ukrainian people who are innocents in this conflict.

In a sense therefore the West is good and Russia is evil.

 

[GodsGrace]

Most futurists leave the US out of dire predictions but not all. All leave Canada out so move there.

Canada is ultra liberal.
Their laws are not conducive to freedom.
I don't think there is a place...