Who Justifieth the Ungodly

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Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Rom 5:6

For when we [The elect] were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

These verses tells us something about the elect ! First that by nature we are ungodly, children of wrath as others Eph 2:3

3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Amen being children of wrath by nature as others is just another way of saying, that we were ungodly.

But one of the Great Gospel doctrines is described in Rom 4:5 is that God justifieth the ungodly

Now , get this, The elect are Justified before God. by the obedience and righteousness of Jesus Christ [Rom 5: 18-19] while we are dead in

trespasses and sins, while we are by nature children of wrath even as others, and while by lifestyle, ungodly. While we the elect are in this very sinful condition, that we are Justified by Jesus Christ blood and clothed in His imputed righteousness, even though we dont know it at the Time, but God knows it , because He is the one who did it.

Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

You see, most false teachers today think that Rom 8 :33 applies to post conversion, but it also applies to pre conversion, for God justifieth the ungodly, before they are converted..

Thats why its of grace Titus 3:7

That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Its by grace because of the sinful condition we are in by nature when we are Justified before God.

Your post really highlights the amazing truth of God’s grace, and I love how you lean into the idea that God justifies the ungodly. It’s such a powerful reminder that our salvation doesn’t depend on our own goodness but on Christ’s work alone. The way you connect Romans 4:5 and 5:6 to show that the elect are justified even while still in sin is a bold point—it really underscores how God’s love reaches us at our lowest.

I hear you on Romans 8:33-34 applying to the elect even before conversion. It makes sense that God’s justification starts with His choice and Christ’s sacrifice, not our response, since we’re all “children of wrath” by nature, like Ephesians 2:3 says. The grace in Titus 3:7 you mentioned ties it together beautifully—God’s work, not ours, makes us heirs of eternal life.

I’m curious, though—how do you see faith fitting into this? Since Romans 4:5 mentions faith being counted as righteousness, do you think that faith is something God grants to the elect at a specific moment, or is it always there in some way? Thanks for sharing such a thought-provoking post!

 

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I’m curious, though—how do you see faith fitting into this? Since Romans 4:5 mentions faith being counted as righteousness, do you think that faith is something God grants to the elect at a specific moment, or is it always there in some way? Thanks for sharing such a thought-provoking post!

Okay, you seem to have understood my post and that's good, and Faith is Gods instrument, means of causing the Justified elect to come into the apprehension and assurance of what is already a fact in the courts of Heaven, accomplished by Christ.