The Church has "Jewish" roots.
Israel is the focal point in all human history.
Christ IS the Kingdom of God.
The Old Testament Church and the New Testament Church are One, a Great Cloud of Witnesses.
All Christianity is, is Completed Judaism.
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WHY DID CHRIST SEND HIS DISCIPLES OUT WITH THE GOOD NEWS?
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Israel is the focal point in all human history.
Christ IS the Kingdom of God.
The Old Testament Church and the New Testament Church are One, a Great Cloud of Witnesses.
All Christianity is, is Completed Judaism.
Christ replaced David as king Lk 1:32-33
The new covenant replaced the mosaic covenant gal 4:20-26
The church replaced Israel as the kingdom Matt 21:43
No christ fulfilled the mosaic covenant
With three parts of the law
Moral which is eternal
Peter and the apostles received the jurisdictional authority Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 of the kingdom taken from the successors of Moses Matt 23:1
The ceremonial fulfilled nailed to the cross
The Jews are rejected outcasts for killing their brother Jesus wandering the earth with the spiritual mark of Cain Matt 23:38
Really all of lk 21:20 Matt 23 and gal 4
Hope this helps
Replacement Theology is unbiblical.
God still has Promises to fulfil towards His Chosen people and the apple of His eye: Israel.
The Lord's Prayer is a "Jewish" prayer.
"Jews" didn't kill Jesus Christ.
God did.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
And carried our sorrows:
Yet we did esteem him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is 53:4.
You really think man has the final say in the death of the Only Begotten Son of God?
Too much pride.
But that's the fallen arrogance of man.
Highway54
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I agree, the Kingdom is real, and Jesus is the now reigning King. Soon it will come and displace the existing governments as you posted. I fully agree with the closing words of the Bible: Amen! Come Lord Jesus!
May it come soon, Don.
Which scripture is unbiblical?
Jews consented to his death
Jn 19:6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
John 18:14
Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole
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All of these statements you made are a belief in Replacement Theology, in general that the Church REPLACED ISRAEL, which is false. This is what you believe. In a false theology:
QUOTE:
Christ replaced David as king Lk 1:32-33
The new covenant replaced the mosaic covenant gal 4:20-26
The church replaced Israel as the kingdom Matt 21:43
Peter and the apostles received the jurisdictional authority Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 of the kingdom taken from the successors of Moses Matt 23:1
RESPONSE: ALL of these statements are false and contrary to Scripture and the Redemptive plan of God.
The Church replaced NO ONE but is a continuation of the Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Davidic Covenants of God.
Can you say this: Jesus Christ is a "Jewish" Messiah predestined to sit on the throne of David at Jerusalem - NOT ROME.
GodsGrace
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Our place.
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
Are you speaking of the nation of Israel or of those who practice and adhere to Judaism?
Have you considered that "if" the descendants of those first circumcised believers remained in the faith then they would most likely be called Christians in this day and age?
No one is a Jew unless they have the inward circumcision of the Spirit.
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.
If one loves the people of Israel, then such love dictates preaching the gospel to them for their good not harm for if they reject that truth they are cut off and perish and if they receive that truth they will enter the kingdom of God in the same manner we and all those before us as in grace through faith in Christ Jesus.
Paul and Apollos and others not only gave them the good news but debated the scriptures with them for their good. Jesus is how God chose to forgive sin. There is no other way.
RESPONSE: What is Christianity but Completed Judaism. Everyone in Scripture that had positive relationship with God through the Covenant and who looked forward to Israel's Messiah/Christ is Christian. King David was Christian.
RESPONSE: Disagree. Let those who are called of God to 'preach' to the people of Israel go and do that as called. But not everyone is called to preach. We are NOT all apostles; we are NOT all evangelists. We all have a place in the Body of Christ and spiritual gifts to accomplish that call but we are NOT all the mouth in the Body of Christ.
RESPONSE: Paul and Apollos were sent by God to do this. THEY were called to do this.
So, let's not copy or mimic someone else's calling in the Body of Christ. When Christians do this in ignorance, they harm the purposes of God and do damage to those who are really called to such ministry.
It would be voluntary that is witnessing to "any" other. What are you doing now?
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it
Before God uses a Christian that Christian MUST be taught the Doctrines of Scripture.
One MUST know their calling and place in the Body of Christ as well as their spiritual gifts.
This takes time and experience.
And obedience.
We are to love the nation that killed Christ our savior?
Christ declared their house is a house of desolation which was destroyed in 70 ad
Matt 23
Don’t read gal 4
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You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Did the people of today have anything to do with what took place in the 1st century?
Jesus said that the gospel would be preached to the whole world, beginning in Jerusalem.
Luke 24
[44] And he [Jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
[45] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.
Luke 24
[44] And he [Jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
[45] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.
It was God Who slain the Lamb.
God.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
And carried our sorrows:
Yet we did esteem him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is 53:4.
Rome was the instrument.
For capital punishment Israel would stone the guilty.
Crucifixion was the method of death by Rome.
And throw burning at the stake as another later means to kill Christians by Rome, also.
They are of that nation.
That nation killed christ
They continue to reject Christ and deny His divinity and miracles resurrection etc.
Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
This is closely tied to how a truth shall convey among humans. The US government can appoint CNN as its media for government annonouncements. The condition is that CNN must cover the whole United States, not just Indianna or Texas but all that states of US. The Jews are God's chosen people, to a certain extent they are God's CNN. CNN is responsible to examining the credibility of the sources of news, which are usually stories from eyewitnesses. Similarly, God's chosen people is responsible for examining the credibility of the sources of news, which are usually stories from the prophets as God's chosen eyewitnesses.
The Jewisch covenant (OT) only covers the Jews while the New Covenant is supposed to cover all mankind. As a result, Christianity as God's new media must have a coverage of all mankind. That's why the explicit command that the good news must be preached to all nations. If CNN failed its role, the US government may appoint another media for its annonouncements. Similarly, when Judaism failed its role God switched to Christiantiy for His message of salvation to reach all mankind.
Other religions which don't have an explicit command for such a coverage of all mankind, either their gods don't have a message for mankind, or they don't care about humans or they simply don't exist.
The Jewisch covenant (OT) only covers the Jews while the New Covenant is supposed to cover all mankind. As a result, Christianity as God's new media must have a coverage of all mankind. That's why the explicit command that the good news must be preached to all nations. If CNN failed its role, the US government may appoint another media for its annonouncements. Similarly, when Judaism failed its role God switched to Christiantiy for His message of salvation to reach all mankind.
Other religions which don't have an explicit command for such a coverage of all mankind, either their gods don't have a message for mankind, or they don't care about humans or they simply don't exist.
You object to witnessing Christ to the people who live in that nation? How is that considered against Christ?