Why did God create hell?

[conchoreb]

Shad,
God created everything! Including angels.
Paidion,
Are you talking about universal reconcilliation/salvation? Guess I missed who was discussing that.

 

[shad]

Shad,
God created everything! Including angels.

God did not create an angel to be satan. Satan is a fallen angel and there is big difference.

 

[conchoreb]

Shad then who pray tell created Satan? Sounds pretty close to heresy to me.

 

[shad]

Shad then who pray tell created Satan? Sounds pretty close to heresy to me.

Satan is a devil and he made himself the devil with his wicked mind. He could have been an obedient angel instead.

 

[conchoreb]

Satan is a devil and he made himself the devil with his wicked mind. He could have been an obedient angel instead.

sophistry

 

[duval]

Hi Paidion

Perhaps it only a misunderstanding onthe use of words but I don't understand how a simmer can be corrected after death. Punished yes, but corrected no.

 

[Paidion]

Paidion,
Are you talking about universal reconcilliation/salvation? Guess I missed who was discussing that.

Yes, I was suggesting the purpose of hell in reference to universal reconciliation of all to God.

You didn't miss anything. No one was discussing it (except in the debate forum), and unfortunately no one will be discussing it.

I wish I could answer address the matter of post-mortem reconciliation to God and correction, Duval, but I am not permitted. Doing so would initiate a discussion of UR. ------ Taboo!

I think if everyone showed respect to everyone else at all times, there probably would be no taboo theological topics in these forums.

 

[Rick W]

I think if everyone showed respect to everyone else at all times, there probably would be no taboo theological topics in these forums.

 

[Bubba]

To properly discuss why God created "Hell" , one must first start with the words that have been translated for "Hell" in our Bibles. Ray Prinzing wrote:

Unseen Realm Called "Hell"

There are three Greek words which have been translated as "hell" in our commonly used King James or Authorized Version of the Bible.

HADES - meaning: the unseen state. And it corresponds to the Hebrew word "sheol," of the same meaning.

GEENNA - referring to the Valley of Hinnom, or Gehenna, which was the place of constant burning of refuse. So as such it stands in type for the place of purifying. It is referred to in the Old Testament by the name of TOPHET, located in the Valley of Hinnom, a place where many sacrifices were made and dead bodies consumed, or else were buried.

TARTAROO - the English form is Tartarus. Though this word isn't so well known, the meaning of it can best be obtained by a look at the verse where it is used, found in 2 Peter 2:4, to mean the abode where the wicked are sent and held until the hour of their judgment.

All three of these Greek words, HADES, GEENNA, and TARTAROO have been translated by the one Anglo-Saxon word of "HELL". There has, of course, been much confusion over this translating, using one word for three different words and their own peculiar meanings.

Added to all this we have another problem today, in that our own English words are changing their meanings over a period of years. For an example, we quote from a writing by Loyal F. Hurley: "Our old English word 'hell' is a derivative from the Saxon 'hillan' or helan,' or from 'holl,' a cavern, anciently denoted the concealed or UNSEEN PLACE of the dead in general. In parts of England men still say, 'I plan to hell my potatoes,' meaning, to bury them in a hole or pit, that is, a covered place. And formerly a lover would take his sweetheart into a 'hell' to kiss her, that is, into a place where others could not see." unquote.

Thus we can see also how far we have come in changing even this word HELL from what it once stood for, until now by popular usage it has come to mean some place of torment, and for some it even includes the thought of the lake of fire, which terminology is used in the book of Revelation."

I personally believe that "Hell" is remedial and that God will eventually save all people.
In Christ, Bubba

 

[duval]

Hi Paidon

On the subject of UR what did you mean by the phrase "unfortunately no one will be discussing it"?

God bless

 

[conchoreb]

Hi Paidon

On the subject of UR what did you mean by the phrase "unfortunately no one will be discussing it"?

God bless

To answer your question to Paidion;Look at the "stickies". The reason is there.

 

[duval]

Hi Conchoreb

Guess I'm just plain dumb but I don't know what "stickies" are.

 

[conchoreb]

I don't know what "stickies" are.

Don't feel bad I just found the stickies by accident. Under "Apologetics and Theology" scroll down and "stickies" section are right above "Topics" section. They are information sharing announcements. The "RC ban" is discussed in this section.

 

[guibox]

I would like someone to point me to some theological works explaining the biblical justification for this, and/or where in scripture this justification is.
Bet I don't get a solid answer--haven't yet.

Perhaps this tells you something about the support that hell has. I did attempt to answer your question at the bottom of page 1. Maybe you missed that.

 

[conchoreb]

guibox I did read your post and appreciate your reply. However, my original post had a present and future hell as a given. You don't agree with that and I can respect your view. As I've reiterated I don't want a debate--I know most on the forum will say "no fair!" Debate is fine but it's just not what I want.
As there's no biblical reason, or specific time, that I or anyone else seems able to find regarding WHEN God decided that man should join the devil and his demon in the lake of fire, other than in Revelations I gave up on that part of my query.
I then began hoping someone would know of theological works that might explain it. However, theologians are apparently not read, quoted, nor thought of very highly on these forums as the members, generally, seem to think they know more than theologians and have no need of anyone other than themselves (though they will insist the Holy Spirit is right there lending them a hand) in interpreting scripture.