Bible Study Why Did The Jews Wish to Kill Jesus?

[for_his_glory]

It was pretty much that the Pharisees were jealous of Christ as He was gaining more popularity then they and wanted Jesus silenced. The high Priest (Pharisees) were looking for a Priestly Messiah as being a king that would sit upon the throne of Israel in the Temple and one who would come with worldly riches. They refused to accept Jesus as Messiah as He came against many of their traditional doctrines as they went as far as telling Him he was from Satan to come and deceive the people. Matthew 12:22-25; 26:1-5.

Six things that angered the Pharisees:
1. The claims that He made
2. The deeds that He did
3. His threat to their religious system
4. His threat to their way of life
5. The people whom He socialized with
6. The lack of respect He had for their religious traditions

 

[atpollard]

So are you saying that they got impatient then?

Think of it more practically. If you were expecting the Jesus of Revelation to show up and establish an eternal kingdom and the Jesus (suffering servant) of the Gospels shows up, then you will believe him to be another of the many false ‘messiahs’ that appeared from time to time in that region.

 

[Chopper]

They hated Jesus because He could see into their hearts and He told them the TRUTH of what was in there.

 

[Truthfrees]

To the Religious leaders Jesus was very annoying. Jesus did it intentionally because He was upset with them.

The religious leaders were annoyed with Jesus but were more annoyed with the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire kept installing idols at every watering hole, hosted blood sport matches, set up brothels everywhere, taxed every road, and set up theatres.
Some Jews really enjoyed these things. (Except the taxes) Which is why the religious leaders were trying to desperately get the Jews angry with Rome.
So they thought that if they could get Rome to kill a minorly successful Rabbi that the people liked they could turn the tide in people turning their backs on God.

So the religious leaders picked Jesus. They felt certain that he wasn't the Messiah. (Boy howdy did they get that one wrong)

So they held a secret trial (kangaroo court) and got Rome to crucify Jesus. (Which violated their own laws to the extreme)
And it all pretty much backfired. Because Jesus rose from the grave. He was truly the Messiah.

interesting

 

[Truthfrees]

Well the Jews were planning on killing someone by agency of Rome...
They picked Jesus because He was annoying them constantly with his miracles.

we should be careful about saying the "jews" did this - the general jewish population had nothing to do with it

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

we should be careful about saying the "jews" did this - the general jewish population had nothing to do with it

First of all I just didn't know what else to call them at first and second of all I highly doubt that all the jews loved Him. Just take a look at Peter and Judas. Judas betrayed Him and Peter denied Him three times. Of course both of them didn't hate Him and felt guilty about it afterwards, but they still weren't always showing Him love or worship either.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Also let me just add that a lot of the world even hates Him today and they're not religious leaders, they're just crazy.

 

[ezra]

So they held a secret trial (kangaroo court) and got Rome to crucify Jesus. (Which violated their own laws to the extreme)
And it all pretty much backfired. Because Jesus rose from the grave. He was truly the Messiah.

amen to backfire

 

[ezra]

First of all I just didn't know what else to call them at first and second of all I highly doubt that all the jews loved Him. Just take a look at Peter and Judas. Judas betrayed Him and Peter denied Him three times. Of course both of them didn't hate Him and felt guilty about it afterwards, but they still weren't always showing Him love or worship either.

the difference between peter and Judas peter was sorrowful remorseful repented. he was the only apostle that preached and 3 thousand souls saved . Judas felt bad was sorry went and hung himself.. peter was true Judas was fake

 

[ezra]

It's our sin that caused Him to come here in the first place...so in a way I killed Jesus.

sad but true they say from what i have heard and read the whipping alone was enough to kill the average man..

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

the difference between peter and Judas peter was sorrowful remorseful repented. he was the only apostle that preached and 3 thousand souls saved . Judas felt bad was sorry went and hung himself.. peter was true Judas was fake

I'm sorry, but I'm confused. Although it was a sin for Judas to hang himself, how can you say that he wasn't truly sorry for what he did? What exactly makes him fake?

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

sad but true they say from what i have heard and read the whipping alone was enough to kill the average man..

So how did that not wind up being what killed Jesus? I mean just because He was the Son of God doesn't mean that He wasn't also human like the rest of us because obviously He was.

 

[ezra]

He knew Jesus
Knew his power
Walked beside him
Day and night...
Saw the blind man
Brought from darkness
Saw the dead man
Brought to life...

But he somehow missed the mercy
When he needed it the most
And as he stood before
That hanging tree
I wonder why he didn't know

There was forgiveness
But he chose silver
Over streets of gold
Still Jesus loved him
And would've saved
His troubled soul...
All he had to do was ask
And that's
What Judas didn't know...

I know Jesus
Walks beside me
And when I stumble
It breaks his heart
But still he loves me
And when I come clean
I find myself
In the safety of his arms

But the saddest thing I know
Is when God's children turn away
From the grace that they've been given
Just like Judas did that day

There was forgiveness
But he chose silver
Over streets of gold
Still Jesus loved him
And would've saved
His troubled soul...
All he had to do was ask
And that's what Judas didn't know...

All you had to do was ask
But that's
What Judas didn't know

 

[ezra]

So how did that not wind up being what killed Jesus? I mean just because He was the Son of God doesn't mean that He wasn't also human like the rest of us because obviously He was.

they didnt kill him.he gave up the Ghost on his timeline

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

He knew Jesus
Knew his power
Walked beside him
Day and night...
Saw the blind man
Brought from darkness
Saw the dead man
Brought to life...

But he somehow missed the mercy
When he needed it the most
And as he stood before
That hanging tree
I wonder why he didn't know

There was forgiveness
But he chose silver
Over streets of gold
Still Jesus loved him
And would've saved
His troubled soul...
All he had to do was ask
And that's
What Judas didn't know...

I know Jesus
Walks beside me
And when I stumble
It breaks his heart
But still he loves me
And when I come clean
I find myself
In the safety of his arms

But the saddest thing I know
Is when God's children turn away
From the grace that they've been given
Just like Judas did that day

There was forgiveness
But he chose silver
Over streets of gold
Still Jesus loved him
And would've saved
His troubled soul...
All he had to do was ask
And that's what Judas didn't know...

All you had to do was ask
But that's
What Judas didn't know

Again I repeat, how do you know that Judas hadn't repented (at least in his heart if not out loud) before he hung himself?

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

they didnt kill him.he gave up the Ghost on his timeline

Not sure what you mean. He was crucified on the cross. Although it's true that He could have saved Himself at any point and time, I don't think by allowing them to do that to Him He would have survived all of that.

 

[ezra]

Not sure what you mean. He was crucified on the cross. Although it's true that He could have saved Himself at any point and time, I don't think by allowing them to do that to Him He would have survived all of that.

Mark 15:36-38 King James Version (KJV)
36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.

37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Mark 15:36-38 King James Version (KJV)
36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.

37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

Yeah but even if He hadn't done/said that the human part of Him probably would have still died anyways.

 

[ezra]

Again I repeat, how do you know that Judas hadn't repented (at least in his heart if not out loud) before he hung himself?

not even going to try to explain this even though i could provide scripture on second thought i will give it a try ...
Matthew 27:2-4 King James Version (KJV)
2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that

5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.


2 Corinthians 7:9-11 King James Version (KJV)
9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.

10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

John 17:11-13 King James Version (KJV)
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

this is Judas

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Then it appears to me that you seem to be contradicting yourself. For Matthew 27:4 seems to support the idea that Judas repented.