Why do Christians hate Muslims? I just want to know more about Jesus.
- Thread starter Niem
- Start date
-
Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
-
Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
-
I wonder what other religion or race you could express the same extreme and irrational prejudice about and not be instantly banned from this forum.
In the US alone, there are hundreds of thousands of Muslims who have never committed a crime (you brought over a lot of them by turning them into refugees). There are 15,000 Muslims in good standing in the military. There are probably a billion Muslims in the world who have never touched a military weapon.
Most Muslim violence against America is just asymmetric war, and we're no less guilty of violence than they are. When we bomb them, they can't fly bombers and bomb us back. So, they find other means.
You are failing your Christian duty to win souls for Christ by your unnecessarily offensive speech toward Muslims.
Allah or Allan or whatever spelling... Allah isn't Jehovah. Most Muslims do not even know the truth
Considering that Arab Christians and Jews use the word Allah for God, and that Muslims believe Allah to be Jehovah, it makes no sense to a Muslim to tell them that Allah isn't God. Allah is the Arabic variant of the Biblical reference to God, Alah (used in Job, used in the plural most other places).
Jesus is a "king," but he is not a king in the usual literal manner of other kings we know from history. He is a very different kind of king. What we need to know about this can be found in the Bible, which I'll explain some here.
When the Jews were trying to convince the Roman authorities to crucify Jesus, they accused Jesus of claiming to be a king. There actually was some truth to this claim, but the Jews wanted to make the Romans fear that Jesus was leading an insurrection against Caesar (John 19:12), who was the king (or emperor) of the Roman empire. On hearing this, the Romans (a governor by the name of Pilate) asked Jesus about this accusation:
Jesus did not deny that he was a king, but he did make known that he was a very unusual type of king ("My kingdom is not of this world").
After questioning Jesus, Pilate did not fear any insurrection "of this world" from Jesus, but he wanted to appease the Jews who he did fear, so he had him crucified anyway. When Pilate then had Jesus crucified, he put a sign above Jesus's head:
This sign "The King of the Jews" was written by Pilate to mock what the Jews were saying, and the Jews objected to it because they really didn't believe in it.
The remarkable thing about this was that neither the Jews nor the Romans believed Jesus was a king, but the truth of Jesus being a king was so powerful that even those who did not believe Jesus was a king were nevertheless compelled to say he was king. This same point was shown earlier before Jesus was handed over to be crucified:
Jesus was saying at that time that if people withheld saying that Jesus was a king, the very stones (which aren't even living things) would cry out that it is so.
Jesus also was descended from King David of Israel. So, by birthright he had the right to be king. Many centuries before Jesus was on Earth, God had prophesied to King David about such a future king that would descend from him and whose "throne shall be established forever" and that "I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son":
There are deep mysteries here. You will not find a simple answer on this question. Jesus himself refused to give a simple answer because a simple Yes or No is insufficient for understanding: a "kingdom not of this world" is not a type of kingdom that worldly people like us can easily relate to, but the many quotes in the Bible from Jesus offer some understanding of what he had in mind.
Jesus has more than one role, including prophet, priest, and king. We need to keep in mind though what Hammer said about not misinterpreting this too literally because these are only ways of expressing the deep thoughts of God in ways humans can hope to relate to:
Yes, we need not argue whether Allah and God are the same without first elaborating what we mean by "being the same."
In John 8, the Pharisees and Jesus both claimed having the same God or Father of Abraham but both accused each other of actually being of Satan rather than of God. Not all those claiming the name of Christ are even known by God (Matthew 7:21-23). Demons "believe" in God as well: "You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!" (James 2:19, ESV). Even if we don't acknowledge God, God still rules over us.
Last edited by a moderator:
Jesus said this in Revelation:
When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last,and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. Revelation 1:17-18 (NASB)
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Isaiah 44:6 (NASB)
"Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. "Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the heavens; When I call to them, they stand together. Isaiah 48:12-13 (NASB)
Jesus Christ, the alpha and omega, the first and last of the New Testament is the Almighty God of the Old.
Way to go! Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever! Emmanuel, God with us! The Word of God who was and is and is to come! Blessed be His Name forever in all the earth!
AMEN, AMEN, AND AMEN! To all your post except the last highlighted statement. Believe whatever you wish, yes, because we have free-will to do that, but believe a lie and you will perish.
This has already been answered, Niem, so I won't re-answer your post but let me say this to you. Christians do not say lies about Islam unless they are either misinformed or not following Christ Who said liars will have a part in the lake of fire at the end of time. What you are calling lies about your religion is that Christians deny the truth of Islamist views on Jesus, so to you it means the Christian is "lying about your faith".
Jesus was NOT a prophet only. Neither was He an example, or a teacher, only. He was born of a virgin, lived on earth in a human body, but was filled with the Spirit of God in that body. On the cross, He gave up that Spirit so that He could, when He returned to heaven, send that Spirit back to His people, so that we, beholding His glory, could become like Him, free from sin, free from death, hell and the grave.
It was a great sacrifice and a great and wonderful gift to mankind that He gave as He gave up His physical life. To minimize that gift is a slap in the face of the Father Who chose to sacrifice His only begotten Son for humanity's sake.
To put Jesus in the category of a prophet, as does Islam, is to seriously undermine the one and only way a man can be saved from the wrath to come. THAT is why Christans warn against Islam. Not because we "hate" you or other Muslim's.
The Islamic jihadists who hate Jews and Christians are of COURSE anti-God. The Jews are God's own people whom He chose to provide salvation for all mankind through Jesus Christ. Christians are those called and chosen by God through faith in Jesus Christ.
It is no small thing that you are asking about Jesus Christ. It points to the love God has for you and you'd do well to heed His call. God's word CLEARLY states that the one and only way to salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ.
Niem, you cannot worship God as Christians do without faith in Jesus Christ.
I am praying for you that Jesus will make Himself known to you in all His glory and power so that you will know the truth and be saved.
Islamists profess to worship God (Allah) but because they deny Christ, the eternal, almighty incarnate God, then they don't worship the same God as Christians. Their "Allah" is a false god based on one man's twisted delusions.
Neim, Peace be with you. I am sorry you feel bettered by some people here. I don't hate you and have many Muslim friends, even though I have a different theology. To understand this try to imagine the numerous responses a Christian would get on a Muslim forum - many different kinds the same as you did here. It is just because people are different so they speak differently - and the internet makes it so much harder to communicate! Listen to Hammer he knows what he is talking about. I would suggest pursuing a one-to-one chat with him. It is a much healthier environment than in an open conversation like this.
I am not American, and have not watched programmes that teach me Muslim's hate me. If you TRULY want to know who Jesus is I suggest to things: Start chatting one-to-one with Hammer, and read the Injil :yes
May God bring you peace
Hey niem and two things. welcome to the CF forums, and sorry about your experience with some members. But please take this into consideration.
Few things
1. The world is at war with each other. no matter what. it's not just christians hate muslims. it shouldn't even be that way. people hate people, that's it. A real christian should not hate anyone, as everyone is born equal. No one has superman powers (haha i had to add that one) besides probaly jesus christ. and of course the lord.
2. Feel free to speak to me whenever. i will tell you the truth, i am not FOND of the islamic belief, but i do not judge as it is not my place to do so. if i we're to judge you, then how could god judge me? i treat everyone equal as i wish to as well.
My goal in life (here on earth) is only to help people. And raise my son to be a respectful, honorable man who loves the lord. I hope you find what your looking for in your adventure, and i wish you the best of luck on it. Please remember, a real christian does not hate anyone. It is fine to dislike things, events, but it is not okay to hate anyone.
Few things
1. The world is at war with each other. no matter what. it's not just christians hate muslims. it shouldn't even be that way. people hate people, that's it. A real christian should not hate anyone, as everyone is born equal. No one has superman powers (haha i had to add that one) besides probaly jesus christ. and of course the lord.
2. Feel free to speak to me whenever. i will tell you the truth, i am not FOND of the islamic belief, but i do not judge as it is not my place to do so. if i we're to judge you, then how could god judge me? i treat everyone equal as i wish to as well.
My goal in life (here on earth) is only to help people. And raise my son to be a respectful, honorable man who loves the lord. I hope you find what your looking for in your adventure, and i wish you the best of luck on it. Please remember, a real christian does not hate anyone. It is fine to dislike things, events, but it is not okay to hate anyone.
Many right-wing Christians are complete hypocrites when it comes to Islam vs. Talmudic Judaism. Remove the plank from your eye! It breeds hatred which causes both war and inhibits your mission of sharing the Gospel with the world.
No one who rejects Jesus is God's people.
Last edited by a moderator:
Amen. Christians universally know Jesus is the only way, but then we sometimes take positions contrary to what we know.
Islam isn't the force that de-christianized America and made our government hostile to Christianity.