Why is USA in Iraq?

[Blue-Lightning]

Bryan, could you please substantiate both claims that you have made with direct quotes from credible sources.

BL

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

Right, I can't take this any more, it doesn't really matter one iota if the Bushes are collectively sleeping with Osama's mother. What's at issue here is whether or not Bush lied inorder to get congress to give him authority to send troops to Iraq.

 

[Blue-Lightning]

And the answer seems to be "no." Tennet is on record as having told Bush that Saddam having WMDs was without question...

Why would Bush lie when it would cause him political harm to do so?

BL

 

[cubedbee]

Why would Bush lie when it would cause him political harm to do so?

Not saying that he's necessarily lying in this case, but he would do so when telling the truth would do him more political harm.

 

[Steve]

I agree with you, Fish. I support the President 100%.

WIN the war!

Just bomb them!

 

[Intoxicated by Life]

I agree with you, Fish. I support the President 100%.

WIN the war!

Just bomb them!

I hope that's a joke...

 

[Fish-Cross]

I agree with you, Fish. I support the President 100%.

WIN the war!

Just bomb them!

Well, I don't think it would be fair to just go in and nuke their whole country.

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

I agree with you, Fish. I support the President 100%.

WIN the war!

Just bomb them!

Well, I don't think it would be fair to just go in and nuke their whole country.

Maybe just a city? Like Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

 

[mcrees]

The President doesn't need Congress permission to send troops anywhere. The Constitution gives him that authority.

As far as nuking Iraq, I think that is a bit over doing it. Although it did shorten WWII and saved a lot of American lives. Maybe my father's life.

I support our President 100% and I will vote for him again. Since the economy is getting better, the press and the Democrats are trying to make this war into another Viet Nam. They need to find something wrong to have a chance in the fall election.

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

The President doesn't need Congress permission to send troops anywhere. The Constitution gives him that authority.

As far as nuking Iraq, I think that is a bit over doing it. Although it did shorten WWII and saved a lot of American lives. Maybe my father's life.

I support our President 100% and I will vote for him again. Since the economy is getting better, the press and the Democrats are trying to make this war into another Viet Nam. They need to find something wrong to have a chance in the fall election.

Is it Christian to approve of killing thousands of civilians if it saves one American life? How about 5000 lives? how about 10,000?

 

[Fish-Cross]

The President doesn't need Congress permission to send troops anywhere. The Constitution gives him that authority.

As far as nuking Iraq, I think that is a bit over doing it. Although it did shorten WWII and saved a lot of American lives. Maybe my father's life.

I support our President 100% and I will vote for him again. Since the economy is getting better, the press and the Democrats are trying to make this war into another Viet Nam. They need to find something wrong to have a chance in the fall election.

Without Congress' permission, the President can only send them over there for a ceratin limited amount of time. I think it's either 30 or 60 days. I'll find out tomorrow. Our economy is still hurting though because of Clinton.

 

[mcrees]

[/quote]Without Congress' permission, the President can only send them over there for a ceratin limited amount of time. I think it's either 30 or 60 days. I'll find out tomorrow. Our economy is still hurting though because of Clinton.[/quote]

This is correct. I thought that it was 60 days, but I am not sure.

Paul Harvey call the bad economy "The Clinton Ressession".

Is it Christian to kill to save American lives?? In the case of WWII, YES.

 

[Intoxicated by Life]

Is it Christian to kill to save American lives?? In the case of WWII, YES.

Qualify that please.

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

Is it Christian to kill to save American lives?? In the case of WWII, YES.

Consider that in 380 A.D., Christianity became the religion of the Roman Empire. It was necessary for the Emperor to have subjects who would fight in war. But now his empire was full of Christians. Do you realize this notion of Christians in war was necessarily then justified by Augustine in the 4th century? Do you understand this is why Christians today think that being involved in war is quite Christian?

 

[Bryan]

Bryan, could you please substantiate both claims that you have made with direct quotes from credible sources.

BL

There were a number of articles in The New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal that confirm it, but all of those papers require a paid suscription to view their archives online. So, right now I'm collecting other articles that make reference TO the articles in the papers above, as well as other sources that you can view quickly. I also found a link to realplayer file of a documentary done by the CBC where they confirm both of the facts you are questioning. I'll post them all together.

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

Bryan, could you please substantiate both claims that you have made with direct quotes from credible sources.

BL

There were a number of articles in The New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal that confirm it, but all of those papers require a paid suscription to view their archives online. So, right now I'm collecting other articles that make reference TO the articles in the papers above, as well as other sources that you can view quickly. I also found a link to realplayer file of a documentary done by the CBC where they confirm both of the facts you are questioning. I'll post them all together.

You do realize Bryan that the only "credible" source now will be defined as George Bush himself LOL.

 

[Blue-Lightning]

I don't like the way you debate, JMW... you remind me too much of the hateful atheists on a board that I used to frequent. You take cheap shots at those you disagree with and you use ad hominems out the wazoo. I'm not interested in debating people like you, so shape up or I ship out.

BL

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

I don't like the way you debate, JMW... you remind me too much of the hateful atheists on a board that I used to frequent. You take cheap shots at those you disagree with and you use ad hominems out the wazoo. I'm not interested in debating people like you, so shape up or I ship out.

BL

I think you might have to ship out when Bryan is finished collecting the "evidence" you want.

 

[Blue-Lightning]

I never ship out of a good debate.

BL

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

I never ship out of a good debate.

BL

And of course you are the one who defines when it is good and when it is not right? When you want out, then it is not. If you think you can win, then it is good. Right?