Bible Study Why would the Apostle Paul say such a thing?

[SovereignGrace]

OK. Time for disciplinary action publicly since you have lied and misrepresented me publicly.

I have been a very vocal proponent of faith in Christ, as well as believing and therefore obeying the Gospel.

I also believe we who have confessed Jesus as Lord must continue to obey Him as Lord.

Obeying the Lord Jesus is taught throughout the New Testament and is the PROOF that a person has faith from/in Jesus Christ.

You have called this obedience of faith a "work of the flesh" .

I patiently have explained with scripture that the works of the flesh is sin and is descibed plainly in Galatians 5:19-21, which I quoted.


HERE’S THE WARNING!

If you misrepresent me by saying I teach or believe we don’t have to have faith in Christ or that grace flows without faith in Christ, you will be removed from the thread.

If you continue to misrepresent me after this action you will restricted in your access to this forum.


I hope this is clear.




JLB

I love your patience in this post. ???

 

[JLB]

If this is working out for you how you live for the Lord through sanctification, continue doing it.

Sanctification by faith works the same way.

Obedience.

It starts with obeying His command to repent, which means turn to God in submission to Him as Lord.


Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, 1 Peter 1:22-23



JLB

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

You are declared righteous because you are righteous...
not because you are unrighteous.


Do you understand the law of faith; the righteousness of faith?



JLB

“YOUR” Righteousness is the equivalent to “Used Menstrual Rags” as far as God’s opinion is concerned....God used the most Disgusting, useless thing He could conjure up to show how “impressed” He is with your Performance.....
The Jews that Paul said that he would go to Hell for if he was able to had this attitude.....they had a “ Zeal” for the things of God , but “ without Knowledge” .....they were blind to God’s Way Of “ Righteousness” —- Faith in Jesus Alone—- and tried to establish “ their own righteousness....they missed the boat completely , as some today STILL do.....
If one does not “Clothe Himself with the Righteousness of Christ” he-is-completely Without hope.....kinda like a BridesMaid with No Oil in her Lamp......

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

It starts with obeying His command to repent, which means turn to God in submission to Him as Lord.

Three different Greek Words were Translated as “ Repent” in the Bible......The only one Pertinent to Salvation is “ metanoia”..... it literally means “ mind change”, nothing more .....nothing less.
Anybody that ever “ changed their mind” from NOT Believing in Jesus and His Gospel to Believing in Jesus as the One who died for their Sins and Rose from the dead has Done all the “ repentance” that he need ever do as far as Salvation is concerned.It is a ONE TIME Event , and it is a BIG ONE—- it gets one Saved forever .
There exists another type of “repentance” , that occurs AFTER one is Saved ......a sorrow and regret for Sin — Disobeying the One that Shed His Blood For you when He did not HAVE to and you did NOTHING to deserve it—- It is a Repentance That can occur seldomly or quite often . It depends on how often you choose to abuse the Freedom God has given you.Wise Believers obey God and get Blessed......Foolish Believers continue to sin, get Chastised for it , and should feel sorrow and guilt for their sin as part of God’s Sanctification Plan —- If one Sins and feels enough guilt and anguish about it —— if Sin becomes as pleasurable as sticking one’s hand in a fire , perhaps the Sinning will stop. If not —— God has more extreme measures that He can take.....like having you drop dead in your tracks. God is Full Of Love , Forgiveness and Grace......if you are Stupid enough to continually abuse His Grace and think you can “ Sin and get away with it” , by all means- give it your best shot! See if your Sinning was worth the trip to God’s “ Wood-Shed”......If God takes you there you are going to discover that it is a Place where God does not “ play games”...... it is a VERY unpleasant place to find one’s self .......take it from somebody that has been there .

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Amen.

Practicing righteousness as He did; as He is.


Just when I overcome one sinful habit, He shows me the next thing I get to repent of and see His character formed in me.


Thank God I can continue to change.



JLB

I never “changed”......One can “ change the Outside Of the Cup” and appear Moral— That will impress most Church- Goers.....It does NOT impress God .He is not looking for BAD People that will change themselves into “ Good and Moral People”..... God is looking for DEAD people to make them Alive!
ANYBODY can “ Turn over a New Leaf” ——— Only God can TRANSFORM a Person from the Inside Out. It’s all about that “ Inside Of the Cup” thingy......and We can’t do it! Only God can TRANSFORM the Inside Of a Man—— This consist of giving a Born-Again Believer a New Heart and once again, TRANSFORMING him into a New Creation .......As I said , I turned to God as a Wretched, Lost Sinner “ Without ONE Plea—- except that His Blood was Shed For Me” ......Grace plus NOTHING, in other Words .
I Turned to Him ......let me emphasize the following —- That is ALL that I did ! God fulfilled a Promise that even after many years in the Church I was completely unaware of —-“ Turn to me, and I will Turn to You” ......God keeps His Promises .....Jesus said , “ They would not TURN to Me so that I might Save them.” All I Did was Trust.....He did the Rest.That Works out just fine, because the results of that are this: JESUS gets ALL of the Glory and BB gets NONE.....Justvthe Way God wants it.......
God is not Saving anybody “ Trying” to get Saved.....He WILL Save ANYBODY that is “TRUSTING” to get Saved......THAT is Faith, and as we ALL know.....The Righteous shall live by improving their Performance, bit by bit , over time , right? Oops! I got that wrong ! “ The Righteous shall LIVE by Faith” .......God Bless.......

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Wrong. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. You must remember that you are spirit and you are flesh. You who were dead in your sins did become 'born again' and you received new life within you, your spirit now lives! Your spirit does not sin but your flesh man may stumble and sin.

Why was King David called a man after God's own heart? He committed adultery with a man's wife and then murdered her husband to cover up the crime. It is because he repented his sin and always turned himself back unto the Lord, confessed his sin and asked forgiveness. He listened to his spirit and allowed his flesh to be governed by his spirit. Understand?

God loved and Forgave David because , despite his wickedness, David was a Man Of Faith .....he sinned mightily , but he had what God is looking for —- FAITH !
All of David’s “ Repentance” ......all of his “ Turning”....... all of his “ Confessions” were Natural Side effects of His Faith . That Faith ( never forget the Astounding Faith That David Showed when he went up against Goliath! ) was what made him “ a man after God’s own heart”.....
Remember how Jesus “ stood there, Astonished” by the Faith Of One considered to be a “ dog” by the Jews.....the Roman Centurian?
Repentance and Confession are great things but only Faith can astonish God and make you “ a Hero Of Faith” and “ a man after the Heart Of God”.....God Bless...

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Grace stops

I am convinced that a “Grace that Stops” is not Grace......You are setting up a scenario whereby something that is by definition “ unmerited” must be merited..... God is the One that declared “where Sin abounds, Grace abounds that much MORE!” Grace is not fair. Thank God for that.

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

“13 For if you live after the flesh (after your own strength and ability, which is outside of God’s Prescribed Order), you shall die (you will not be able to live a victorious, Christian life): but if you through the Spirit (by the Power of the Holy Spirit) do mortify the deeds of the body (which the Holy Spirit Alone can do), you shall live (shall walk in victory; but once again, even at the risk of being overly repetitive, we must never forget that the Spirit works totally and completely within the confines of the Cross of Christ; this means that we must ever make the Cross the Object of our Faith, giving Him latitude to work).” Rom. 8:13 KJV

“18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed (revert back to the Law), I make myself a transgressor. (To revert to any type of Law is a departure from God’s Prescribed Order of Victory [the Cross], and is sin).”Gal. 2:18

Notice what Gal. 2:18 says - If the Believer attempts to live after your own strength and ability, which is outside of God’s Prescribed Order to live for the Lord, you become a transgressor. It is by "Grace" through "Faith" that the "Temple" is built. It is not by works and Law.

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The Expositor's Study Bible
Jimmy Swaggart

‎The Expositor's Study Bible

‎Religion & Spirituality · 2005

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If Jimmy Swaggert knew the Bible, he would know that he disqualified himself from being a Preacher many years ago .....he sins now every time he opens his mouth and teaches anything from the Bible.....
I am not saying he is not Saved.....if he is a Believer , and I believe that he IS one.....his sins, just like mine are on the Cross ......the man gave into Temptation just like I do at times of weakness ....you do too , don’t forget. Swaggert was chastised BIg Time for His disobedience.....fortunately for him and for us— where Sin abounds, Grace abounds That much more.....
What the man ignores is the verses that show the qualifications for being a deacon or a pastor ........A Preacher Of God's Word must have a Stellar Reputation in His neighborhood at the very Least......Swaggert’s Reputation is shot.....he needs to stick to singing .....he should have stuck with that to begin with....
Let me make it clear ......I am a worse Sinner than Swaggert ever dreamed of being—- I just don’t pretend that I am eligible for the Ministry......

 

[Blood Bought 1953]

Keeping the commandments of God is keeping the faith.

Sounds noble , but nobody could ever do it except Jesus....trying to “ keep the Commandments “ is a “ Fool’s Errand”......The reason the Commandments were Given was to take a person , then have him “shut up His mouth” about being able to keep them , and lead him to Christ.Paul said that the Commandments were “ weak and useless”, because they lacked the POWER to Save—— The Gospel Of Paul Found In 1Cor15:1-4 is where the POWER is Contained! Nobody is capable of keeping the Commandments , but EVERYBODY is capable of Trusting.If you Trust in something you will REST in it.......if you really Trust the Gospel you will never worry about Losing your Salvation......The first half of the Gospel says that Jesus “ died for your Sins”......if that is true, what Sin is one supposedly being damned for? The Believer’s Sins were put on the Cross and God says that he has “ forgotten them”. That works for me. I will continue to believe that God, if nothing else, is a Gentleman That will keep His Word.....

 

[JLB]

“YOUR” Righteousness is the equivalent to “Used Menstrual Rags” as far as God’s opinion is concerned....God used the most Disgusting, useless thing He could conjure up to show how “impressed” He is with your Performance.....
The Jews that Paul said that he would go to Hell for if he was able to had this attitude.....they had a “ Zeal” for the things of God , but “ without Knowledge” .....they were blind to God’s Way Of “ Righteousness” —- Faith in Jesus Alone—- and tried to establish “ their own righteousness....they missed the boat completely , as some today STILL do.....
If one does not “Clothe Himself with the Righteousness of Christ” he-is-completely Without hope.....kinda like a BridesMaid with No Oil in her Lamp......

Who is claiming anything about our own righteousness?

We who are born again, and have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us, are to live our lives according to the Spirit, rather than according to the flesh.

The things that we do, which are inspired or motivated by the Spirit are indeed righteous, because the Spirit of God is the Author of the work.

This is called being led by the Spirit.

This is how we practice righteousness.


Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
1 John 3:7




JLB

 

[JLB]

Sounds noble , but nobody could ever do it except Jesus....trying to “ keep the Commandments “ is a “ Fool’s Errand”......

Once again the scriptures indicate otherwise.


For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
1 John 5:3

• His commandments are not burdensome.

If you struggle with not being able to control yourself when it comes to murdering your neighbor, you may want to consider getting saved.

The same goes for making idols and bowing down to them or committing adultery with your neighbors wife, or taking the name of the Lord in vain, or stealing from your neighbor...


Keeping His commandments are the very definition of Love.

If I am stealing from my neighbor, that’s not loving him and therefore I’m not loving God who commands me to love my neighbor.

Disobeying His commandments are then expressions of hate.


If refraining from lying is a huge burden for you, then repent and seek God and ask Him to deliver you from lying.

Please consider this.

All liars will have their part in the lake of fire.

He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:7-8


The Lord loves us and will deliver us from anything we ask Him to. We have to hate sin, and evil to be delivered from it.

God won’t deliver you from the sin you love, you must repent and come before God in humility, confessing your sin to Him and He will cleanse you of it.

If I can do it, anyone can do it. You just have to hate your sin, bro and go to God and fast and show Him you want to be free.


The Lord has delivered me from many sins, and iniquities over the years. He will do it for you.


If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9





JLB