would you be micro chipped?

[jasoncran]

So then...um.....this very early news report is slightly confusing then...talking about bombs INSIDE the building:

"...here's now what we are starting to learn about the succession, or what someone obviously hoped would be a succession of explosions. The first bomb that wasin the federal building did go off ... the second explosive was found and defused. The third explosive that was found and they are working on it right now ... both the second and third explosives, if you can imagine this, were larger than the first. ... It is just incredible to think that there was that much heavy artillery that was somehow moved into the downtown Oklahoma City federal building."

"...this is the work of a sophisticated group, this is a very sophisticated device, and it has to have been done by an explosives expert."

"SUSANNE SEALY, Correspondent: Yes, LEA [sp], I can. The Oklahoma City police and the FBI have confirmed there is another bomb in the Federal Building. It's in the east side of the building. They've moved everybody back several blocks. They're trying to- obviously to- to- to unplug it so it won't go off. They're moving everybody back several blocks."

this is official.

from wikipedia and notice what mcvieh says.

Working at a lakeside campground near McVeigh's old Army post, he and Nichols constructed an ANNM explosive device mounted in the back of a rented Ryder truck. This site was regarded[citation needed] as suitable because a moving truck would not seem out of place, given the transient population of the area. The bomb consisted of about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate and nitromethane, a motor-racing fuel.

On April 19, 1995, McVeigh drove the truck to the front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building just as its offices and day care center opened for the day. Before arriving, he stopped to light a 5 minute fuse. At 9:02 a.m., a large explosion destroyed the north half of the building. The explosion was so powerful that McVeigh, who was jogging away from the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was lifted off the ground. The explosion killed 168 people and 450 were injured.[42] Nineteen of the victims were small children and babies in the day care center on the second floor of the building.[43]

McVeigh did not express remorse for the deaths of the children, what he referred to as "collateral damage" but said he might have chosen a different target if he had known the day care center was open.[44] According to Michel and Herbeck, McVeigh claimed not to have known there was a day care center in the Murrah Building and said that if he had known it, in his own words:

It might have given me pause to switch targets. That's a large amount of collateral damage.
Michel and Herbeck quote McVeigh, with whom they spoke for some 75 hours, on his attitude to the victims:

To these people in Oklahoma who have lost a loved one, I'm sorry but it happens every day. You're not the first mother to lose a kid, or the first grandparent to lose a grandson or a granddaughter. It happens every day, somewhere in the world. I'm not going to go into that courtroom, curl into a fetal ball and cry just because the victims want me to do that.
According to the Oklahoma City Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (MIPT), more than 300 buildings were damaged. More than 12,000 volunteers and rescue workers took part in the rescue, recovery and support operations following the bombing. In reference to theories that he had assistance from others, McVeigh responded:

You can't handle the truth. Because the truth is, I blew up the Murrah Building and isn't it kind of scary that one man could wreak this kind of hell?[45]


he claimed it and did get help but he says he did it alone.

he states what the militia persons states.

the govt is evil
turned socialist
is anti-gun
and is oprresive.

 

[Strangelove]

there are no fema trailers there, nor to my knowledg is there at present or was ever.

that area isnt where they were kept. do keep in mind that i work with fema in disasters.

they were kept on the property that was damaged. the storage yards were either new ones, to be used and also the old one that were damaged from the previous storms.

fema didnt just give you a trailer you rented them!

answer me this where on Camp Blanding is that relocation camp.

i want the avenues so that i can tell you what is there, and also a pic.
few places on that base that i havent seen.

All I did was ask you what was at Camp Blanding. I have no idea if FEMA is invloved there. All I know is the place was used as an internment camp for Japanese americans and POWS in the war. I knew you lived in Florida and was wondering if you heard anything about FEMA using the place or plans to use it thats all buddy.

So do you know of any FEMA 'relocation camps'?

Do they exist to your knowledge?

 

[jasoncran]

All I did was ask you what was at Camp Blanding. I have no idea if FEMA is invloved there. All I know is the place was used as an internment camp for Japanese americans and POWS in the war. I knew you lived in Florida and was wondering if you heard anything about FEMA using the place or plans to use it thats all buddy.

So do you know of any FEMA 'relocation camps'?

Do they exist to your knowledge?

no, never did. and that is the german pow camp, not japs.

the germans built the state road 16 from st.augustine to the city of gainseville.

that area is where what i always see, not much of that old pow or any of the old base and haunted, yes haunted, pow camp remains.

that is on avenue b. only a few things remain. such as the candles they used to mark where they would go to hang out in the woods.

you can vistit the camp blanding museum on line to see the story of that base and what the germans did.

 

[Strangelove]

this is official.

from wikipedia and notice what mcvieh says.

Huh? Theres nothing official or reliable there. Thats just wikipedia parrotting the FINAL script.

Plus you got the word of a criminal. Are you gonna believe anything that comes out of this guys mouth? I have no doubt that he was USED in some capacity by the real perps and would def. feel like he was part of the operation and even it's main instigator. That was the plan. Just as LHO was a useful idiot in the JFK storyline.

You didn't address the OFFICIAL early news reports I posted about the authorities defusing bombs INSIDE the building.

Can you explain the reports of bombs in the building?

Oh and whats this RYDER TRUCK doing in a secret military location near Camp Gruber-Braggs, Oklahoma days before the attack?

Notice the screens covering the truck so none of the 'army boys' can see whats going on.

 

[Strangelove]

no, never did

So if a natural disaster hits....then FEMA have no contingency plans to relocate people to certain locations? As far as you know?

Please confirm.

In your training with FEMA you have heard nothing about emergency relocation plans?

 

[jasoncran]

please post that link, and uh the atf and the and also the bomb squad would have kinda noticed the discrepency and came forward.

being a war vet, that truck and the amount explosive would indeed bring down the building.

we have lost troops and half a compound to far less potent explosives.

shall i post those videos.

and it would help that you would post the link to that news.

 

[jasoncran]

So if a natural disaster hits....then FEMA have no contingency plans to relocate people to certain locations? As far as you know?

Please confirm.

In your training with FEMA you have heard nothing about emergency relocation plans?

fema isnt the one thats relocate at all, they just assist with the funds for the guard and also the cops and restoration power, and also homes being repaired.

lol. the guard and the cops do the relocation.

trust me if fema was planning that why was the evac of new orleans so disorganised.

we ask that people leave homes, and dont force them.

i worked with fema in the hurricanes and all i saw was tarps given out, and my job that is a municipal provider of power was reimbursed by fema for feeding its employees while they worked on cleaning the roads and restored power.

fema is nothing but a cordinator of logistics and supplies food , water, and trialers for emergency shelters and assists with home repairs, and helps the govt.

ask any floridan who in the canes of 04-05.

 

[Strangelove]

please post that link, and uh the atf and the and also the bomb squad would have kinda noticed the discrepency and came forward.

being a war vet, that truck and the amount explosive would indeed bring down the building.

we have lost troops and half a compound to far less potent explosives.

shall i post those videos.

and it would help that you would post the link to that news.

Copyright 1995 Cable News Network, Inc.
All rights reserved
CNN
SHOW: NEWS 11:27 am ET
April 19, 1995
Transcript # 920-19

OK City

Heres the actual report audio's:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok_city1.wmv

 

[Strangelove]

fema isnt the one thats relocate at all, they just assist with the funds for the guard and also the cops and restoration power, and also homes being repaired.

lol. the guard and the cops do the relocation.

trust me if fema was planning that why was the evac of new orleans so disorganised.

we ask that people leave homes, and dont force them.

i worked with fema in the hurricanes and all i saw was tarps given out, and my job that is a municipal provider of power was reimbursed by fema for feeding its employees while they worked on cleaning the roads and restored power.

fema is nothing but a cordinator of logistics and supplies food , water, and trialers for emergency shelters and assists with home repairs, and helps the govt.

ask any floridan who in the canes of 04-05.

Ya I'm fully aware that an acronym cant physically do work.

So do you know of any FEMA PLANS that USE military and cops and National Guard folks to move citizens from their homes to specific destinations in the event of a natural disaster or indeed martial law?

When you ask people to leave homes I assume there is a destination for them in mind? Are there destinations in mind for future events?

 

[jasoncran]

Ya I'm fully aware that an acronym cant physically do work.

So do you know of any FEMA PLANS that USE military and cops and National Guard folks to move citizens from their homes to specific destinations in the event of a natural disaster or indeed martial law?

When you ask people to leave homes I assume there is a destination for them in mind? Are there destinations in mind for future events?

nope, its called voluntary evacuations. they can head to nyc, or across the state. or to the designated shelters that the local counties set up which are often...
schools!!!!!!!!!!!.

evil schools are the fema camps. lol.

the counties often yearly will state in hurricane prepardness where to go and signs that have put up for yrs will tell you which roads to take for evac and also the county days before the storm may hit will put up signs at the local shelters

i have stayed in some of those as a kid during hurrance david and fled irene.

and was in one as a guardsmen during george, and wilma and others. though wilma we stayed in armory.

none one is made to go. and the none of the shelters are guarded. often red cross feds but you are too bring your own food and water for three days.

i rode out t.s. fran in the house i live in while some did evac from the beach that lived in flood zones.

 

[Strangelove]

nope, its called voluntary evacuations. they can head to nyc, or across the state. or to the designated shelters that the local counties set up which are often...
schools!!!!!!!!!!!.

evil schools are the fema camps. lol.

the counties often yearly will state in hurricane prepardness where to go and signs that have put up for yrs will tell you which roads to take for evac and also the county days before the storm may hit will put up signs at the local shelters

i have stayed in some of those as a kid during hurrance david and fled irene.

and was in one as a guardsmen during george, and wilma and others. though wilma we stayed in armory.

none one is made to go. and the none of the shelters are guarded. often red cross feds but you are too bring your own food and water for three days.

i rode out t.s. fran in the house i live in while some did evac from the beach that lived in flood zones.

Ok thanks for confiming that the bottom level enforcers are not privvy to the wider plan.

 

[jasoncran]

Ok thanks for confiming that the bottom level enforcers are not privvy to the wider plan.

uh, no, that isnt the case. the feds dont run this show, not at all.


its the counties that do it and that is done with the state approval

heres the problem you arent aware of

fema is only asked by the state to come in only when its BAD enough.

for instance in t.s fran fema never showed up to my knowledge, though the damage was far greater then the canes combined.

and the guard was called for the cities in metro dade and broward county.

the feds with fema usually dont act first till they are requested by the state governor.

with fran crist didnt do that.

and you didnt adress katrina hitting and those that left new orleans. they went to dallas and houston, and stayed there.

perfect time to enforce that camp thing. but guess what nothing. they are going back to the city new orleans slowly.

 

[jasoncran]

one bomb and this was done in an experiment.

Oklahoma City Bombing "Conspiracy" Debunked

google this ok city bombing myths debunked and read from sci-tech.

the same thing the fbi said happen was found to be so.

 

[Strangelove]

uh, no, that isnt the case. the feds dont run this show, not at all.


its the counties that do it and that is done with the state approval

heres the problem you arent aware of

fema is only asked by the state to come in only when its BAD enough.

for instance in t.s fran fema never showed up to my knowledge, though the damage was far greater then the canes combined.

and the guard was called for the cities in metro dade and broward county.

the feds with fema usually dont act first till they are requested by the state governor.

with fran crist didnt do that.

and you didnt adress katrina hitting and those that left new orleans. they went to dallas and houston, and stayed there.

perfect time to enforce that camp thing. but guess what nothing. they are going back to the city new orleans slowly.

The chain of command doesnt work that way and you know it. Lolz! The state governers 'allow' FEMA to come in and do their thing?? LOLZ! Your really so snug and cozy under your government blanket you cant see the wood for the trees can you? FEMA and Homeland Security have their own selcted councils set up at state level doing their bidding.

What is with your view that 'it didn't happen at x time so its never gonna happen'??

They are not ready to do it yet. They are beta testing and preforming psyops to gradually get citizens used to getting moved around by authority figures....and they are also brainwashing the authority figures (like you) into doing their bidding. Put you can't see that coz you're too far gone.

 

[Strangelove]

one bomb and this was done in an experiment.

Oklahoma City Bombing "Conspiracy" Debunked

google this ok city bombing myths debunked and read from sci-tech.

the same thing the fbi said happen was found to be so.

Lolz. That miniscule hack job is laughable. Is that the best you could find?

So.....they've concluded that a truck bomb does actually do damage to some nearby concrete?? So what? I wouldn't expect anything less! What does that prove?

You didn't address the OFFICIAL early news reports I posted about the authorities defusing bombs INSIDE the building.

The plan was obviously to bring down the entire building (like 911) and hence to hide all the evidence under a pile of rubble but they messed it up! Two or three of their bombs INSIDE the buildings FAILED to detonate!

Made their cover-up job waaaaaaaay harder.

 

[jasoncran]

The chain of command doesnt work that way and you know it. Lolz! The state governers 'allow' FEMA to come in and do their thing?? LOLZ! Your really so snug and cozy under your government blanket you cant see the wood for the trees can you? FEMA and Homeland Security have their own selcted councils set up at state level doing their bidding.

What is with your view that 'it didn't happen at x time so its never gonna happen'??

They are not ready to do it yet. They are beta testing and preforming psyops to gradually get citizens used to getting moved around by authority figures....and they are also brainwashing the authority figures (like you) into doing their bidding. Put you can't see that coz you're too far gone.

uh. that is because you base it all this..

i saw a video from a known militia person, a sinner that wants to not only tell us the truth but also too kill them that are in power.

so can you say that sounds like something you claim the govt does lies so that other come in power.

dude, i worked with psyops. all they do is pass out info that tells the enemy to surrender and that we will treat them with respect. and also they do help the locals in war, just like i did.

i wear a psyops patch. i was with them indirectly

if i tell you that the moon is gonna spin away from the earth based on the eventual slow creep of orbital wouldnt you double check it.

selected coucils.

let see here. i guess according to you,

i shouldnt go to school.
govt runs colleges
and then actually do business with any large corp. they are in cohooze
yup hide in fear after all "they" are everwhere.

paranoid much?

that is the definition of what paranoia is. and often ptsd has that hypervigilism to that.

somebody or group out to get me.

no. i know what the real threat is.

i dont again act on hypotheticals. that is at the best you have, nothing more.

i could say the same about anything. nothing in life is 100 percent save death.

we dont see God by science but by faith and we dont know by science he exists. none of us knows the future.

you offer nothing but paranoia and hiding in secrecy. for if you use any thing that is around you "they" know.

when tomas hits me. should i just ignore and stay in house and ride out a cat 5 hurricane(if it comes to that) because fema may whisk me away!


really, that isnt what the bible tells and how its taught to me in end times.

 

[jasoncran]

i dont answer to the potus when i'm on national guard state duty but the governor.

i will enlighten you on your BLATENT ignorance

the federal troops are these:
active army, reserves
active marines , reserves
active navy,reservs
active air force, reserves

state controlled troops with some fed funding
air guard
national guard
these answer to the governor when not on title 10, title 32 u.s.c is the one used for the state duty and disasters.

i am not on those thus the president has to ask the state governor for realise as he has to be able to respond to disasters.

i read my orders and thats what they say.(when i went to war) but since you are the EXPERT on my coc tell me who is the state ag?

 

[jasoncran]

commoditus posse act

read this link.

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Strangelove]

uh. that is because you base it all this..

i saw a video from a known militia person, a sinner that wants to not only tell us the truth but also too kill them that are in power.

so can you say that sounds like something you claim the govt does lies so that other come in power.

dude, i worked with psyops. all they do is pass out info that tells the enemy to surrender and that we will treat them with respect. and also they do help the locals in war, just like i did.

i wear a psyops patch. i was with them indirectly

if i tell you that the moon is gonna spin away from the earth based on the eventual slow creep of orbital wouldnt you double check it.

selected coucils.

let see here. i guess according to you,

i shouldnt go to school.
govt runs colleges
and then actually do business with any large corp. they are in cohooze
yup hide in fear after all "they" are everwhere.

paranoid much?

that is the definition of what paranoia is. and often ptsd has that hypervigilism to that.

somebody or group out to get me.

no. i know what the real threat is.

i dont again act on hypotheticals. that is at the best you have, nothing more.

i could say the same about anything. nothing in life is 100 percent save death.

we dont see God by science but by faith and we dont know by science he exists. none of us knows the future.

you offer nothing but paranoia and hiding in secrecy. for if you use any thing that is around you "they" know.

when tomas hits me. should i just ignore and stay in house and ride out a cat 5 hurricane(if it comes to that) because fema may whisk me away!


really, that isnt what the bible tells and how its taught to me in end times.

You didn't address the OFFICIAL early news reports I posted about the authorities defusing bombs INSIDE the building.

 

[Strangelove]

i dont answer to the potus when i'm on national guard state duty but the governor.

i will enlighten you on your BLATENT ignorance

the federal troops are these:
active army, reserves
active marines , reserves
active navy,reservs
active air force, reserves

state controlled troops with some fed funding
air guard
national guard
these answer to the governor when not on title 10, title 32 u.s.c is the one used for the state duty and disasters.

i am not on those thus the president has to ask the state governor for realise as he has to be able to respond to disasters.

i read my orders and thats what they say.(when i went to war) but since you are the EXPERT on my coc tell me who is the state ag?

You didn't address the OFFICIAL early news reports I posted about the authorities defusing bombs INSIDE the building.