Yoga And Christianity.What's Wrong About It ?

[gingercat]

Again, how does appreciating and learning another culture's knowledge lessen your own or lead to damnation?

We are here to serve God; We don't have much time to even learn about God, much less learning secular world. I am not damning them. I am just spreading Jesus. I was in the world too long.

 

[bhakthi]

"'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." Isaiah;7:

 

[gingercat]

"'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." Isaiah;7:

If you are talking to me, I am not following men's teachings. I am trying to follow everything what Jesus and His disciples are teaching in NT. You don't seems to know the difference. You seem to be taking a pick.

 

[Relic]

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Bhakti yoga is the Hindu term for the spiritual practice of fostering of loving devotion to God , called bhakti. Traditionally there are 9 forms of bhakti yoga . Hindu movements in which bhakti yoga is the main practice are called bhakti movements.

Bhakti (Bhakti: (Hinduism) loving devotion to a deity leading to salvation and Nirvana; open to all persons independent of caste or sex) is the Hindu term that signifies a blissful, selfless and overwhelming love of God as the beloved Father, Mother, Child, or whatever relationship or aspect of God that finds appeal in the devotee's heart.

The philosophy of Bhakti seeks to tap into the universal divinity through personal form, which explains the proliferation of so many gods (gods: The supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions) and Goddesses (Goddess: A female deity) in India (India: A republic in the Asian subcontinent in southern Asia; second most populous country in the world; achieved independence from the United Kingdom in 1947) , often reflecting the personal inclinations of small regions or groups of people.
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bhakthi ,

Are you a Hindu converted to Christianity?

Why would a "Christian" use a Hindu user ID for a name that represents pathways to devotion of God, in which the Hindus have a proliferation of so many gods and goddesses ? :o Using a name like that to represent your Christianity is somewhat contradictory in what you are claiming to represent, wouldn't you say? If your real name is in fact "bhakthi" I wonder how you explain keeping a name that is representative of some other religious form of devotion, pathway, or representative of some other religious movement, "bhakthi movements".

Do you use it as a testimony? If so would you mind sharing your testimony since this thread was created by you and you seem to be against the practice of yoga.

I am just curious .

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[Soma-Sight]

Bhakti yoga is the Hindu term for the spiritual practice of fostering of loving devotion to God , called bhakti. Traditionally there are 9 forms of bhakti yoga . Hindu movements in which bhakti yoga is the main practice are called bhakti movements.

Hinduism is very diverse....

Hindus condiser Christians adherants of Bhakti Yoga.

Bhakti (Bhakti: (Hinduism) loving devotion to a deity leading to salvation and Nirvana; open to all persons independent of caste or sex) is the Hindu term that signifies a blissful, selfless and overwhelming love of God as the beloved Father, Mother, Child, or whatever relationship or aspect of God that finds appeal in the devotee's heart.

Like devotion to Jesus.

The philosophy of Bhakti seeks to tap into the universal divinity through personal form, which explains the proliferation of so many gods (gods: The supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions) and Goddesses (Goddess: A female deity) in India (India: A republic in the Asian subcontinent in southern Asia; second most populous country in the world; achieved independence from the United Kingdom in 1947) , often reflecting the personal inclinations of small regions or groups of people.
[/quote] Relic, I want you to d...ums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=475915&page=4

I've just about had it with you guys.....

Does it threaten you so much that people believe differently than you?

Is your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ strong enough to withstand the lost?

Miracles with Thought

"An article of the healing powers of SATANIC Yoga" :



Miracles are things that we think CAN'T happen, things that contradict our logic, our rational minds. When these impossible things happen, our rational minds short out and fail us for an explanation. The default mode calls it a miracle. Practitioners of yoga continually experience miracles, things they knew they couldn't do or be. Brenda's story takes miracles to the nth degree, beyond anyone's, particularly medical science's, wildest imagination. Brenda, who was apparently completely physically limited by a tragic accident, used her yoga training to soar to mental heights most of us don't even dream of. Here is Brenda's story:


We have all heard teachers, coaches, and motivational speakers discuss the power of positive thinking. Thought power is a very strong force, because it is form that follows thought. We have all seen examples of how an individual’s thoughts and attitudes affect their lives. The results of daily challenges or opportunities greatly depend on a positive or negative mindset. Whether you think you can, or you can’t, you are probably right.

In this issue’s column I would like to share with you the strongest, most positive example of positive thinking that I have ever seen-- the story of a woman, whose obstacles would make almost anyone give up and submit to life’s difficulties.

Before Brenda Cole was accidentally shot in the neck in 1982, she was a very active, multi-faceted person. She worked full time as an executive secretary for a vice president with AT & T. In her spare time she taught yoga, was a Reikki healer, an herbalist , and a pilot who flew her own plane. She also volunteered as a paramedic with fire rescue, and drove her own Harley. At age 12, she learned to drive by racing cars on the track next to her mother’s restaurant. Brenda had everything going for her.

After the accident, Brenda was a quadriplegic. She had no movement or feeling whatsoever from the neck down. Since her larynx was damaged from the bullet, Brenda could only whisper. Attendants had to literally do everything for her. Her doctor told her that because of the severity of her spinal cord injury she would never have any movement or sensation below the neck, and that she would not be able to sit up and function. Then, in addition to such shocking news, her doctor told her that she would probably not live longer than 5 years! Brenda told the doctor, "You don’t understand; I’ll do what I want to do." The doctor just shook his head and walked out of the room.

Before the accident, Brenda had for many years been in the habit of rising at 3:00 a.m., and practicing yoga every morning. Now, lying in the hospital bed, her body’s alarm clock continued to ring at this time. Although completely immobile, filled with tubes and surrounded by monitors, Brenda’s body still screamed out at 3:00 each morning, ‘Wake up; it’s time to practice yoga.’ As we will see, beneath Brenda’s sweet , gentle exterior is a woman with incredible courage and tenacity.

Every morning at 3:00 a.m., Brenda asked an attendant to play a cassette tape of a yoga class. Each morning, as disciplined as she had been when she had full body function, Brenda flowed through the postures - mentally. In real time, she visualized each stretch, bend, twist and balance, making the same movements mentally as she had once done physically. She visualized that she could feel her body as she did the postures. Since Brenda was not the kind of person to watch television, she continued this practice throughout the day, mentally doing the postures over and over. Between her "classes" she practiced yoga breathing exercises and listened to chanting and meditation tapes. Even in her hospital bed, her life was filled with yoga.

One morning, about two weeks after following this daily routine, in the midst of doing the postures mentally, she felt a light on the left side of her ribs. It felt very warm. She felt like she could see and feel her ribs. A few weeks later she could feel some twitching in her toes. Six or eight weeks after the accident she started getting feelings back on the whole left side of her body-- from the toes to her head. But the right side was still totally numb.

Even though the doctor had said she would never be able to sit up again, after a few months, Brenda was put into a wheel chair. She was not able to move, much less push herself, but she was sitting up, contrary to the doctor’s predictions. Brenda found a new challenge now that she was able to sit up. Whenever she was in the chair, Brenda visualized herself pushing the wheel chair. Although her body still remained motionless, her mind was continually in movement, visualizing her body’s recovery.

The next big breakthrough came during a physical therapy session. When the therapist was moving Brenda’s hand that had a spoon strapped to it, suddenly Brenda’s arm moved by itself. Brenda recalled that it was after this point she always felt if she could do something just once, she could continue doing it and that eventually she would do it perfectly. She practiced this motion over and over again until she was able to do it smoothly and correctly.

It was this first little movement that gave Brenda hope that one day she would become independent again. Even at this early stage she said she was able to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Brenda’s spirit became unstoppable. With prolonged physical therapy, the support of family and friends and continual mental visualization practices, Brenda was able to regenerate sensation throughout most of her body. She eventually was able to push herself in a wheel chair.

As she continued to improve Brenda added other disciplines to her recuperation. She started taking Chinese herbs to help fight off infections and strengthen her muscles. She regularly received acupressure and acupuncture treatments to balance the sensation in her body.

After she returned home, she was taken everyday to the fire department where she had normally run fire rescue. Her friends there would spend hours helping her to stand up. She went to the local swimming pool and did water therapy three times a week, regularly received chiropractic treatments and continued her physical therapy. Eventually, with the use of leg braces and parallel bars Brenda was able to walk alone in therapy sessions.

During her recovery Brenda also went back to flying. She solo-piloted her own specially equipped plane and later, thinking that if she could fly, she could surely drive, drove her own specially equipped van. As if this weren’t already enough, during this period, Brenda also went back to college full-time for four years, and became an ordained minister.

In 1990, eight years after her accident, Brenda finally achieved her long awaited dream. With the determination that carried her through her long recovery, she was now able to live alone without an attendant. Currently, Brenda spends her life helping other people. She counsels people with varying problems and organizes fund-raising for people in distress. She even manages to attend a weekly yoga class for people with disabilities where the teacher physically moves her body through postures which she is unable to do on her own.

Brenda’s spirit remains unbelievably strong and visualization is still a very powerful part of her life. She doesn’t see any roadblocks in life. What most people see in their lives as obstacles, Brenda sees as just things she temporarily can’t do. When she runs across a problem or a challenge, she goes to sleep at night trying to visualize a solution to the problem. When she wakes up, an answer comes to her. Sometimes the answer is different from what she thought it would be, but visualizing positive results is always an effective way to solve problems.

Brenda still hasn’t figured out how to drive a Harley yet, but sometimes, with a twinkle in her eye, I have heard her talking about getting another Harley and mounting a side car. Considering Brenda’s track record, I wouldn’t bet against it.

http://www.yogapeace.com/yoga_miracles.htm

 

[Vic C.]

THE BASICS OF LIFE
Harris/Koch


We’ve turned the page, for a new day has dawned
We’ve re-arranged what is right and what’s wrong
Somehow we’ve drifted so far from the truth
That we can’t get back home

Where are the virtues that once gave us light
Where are the morals that governed our lives
Someday we all will awake and look back
just to find what we’ve lost

CHORUS
We need to get back
To the basics of life
A heart that is pure
And a love that is blind
A faith that is fervently
grounded in Christ
The hope that endures for all times
These are the basics,
we need to get back
To the basics of life

The newest rage is to reason it out
Just meditate and you can overcome every doubt
After all man is a god, they say
God is no longer alive

But I still believe in the old rugged cross
And I still believe there is hope for the lost
And I know the Rock of all ages will stand
Through changes of time

REPEAT CHORUS

BRIDGE
We’ve let the darkness invade us too long
We’ve got to turn the tide
Oh and we need the passion that burned long ago
To come and open our eyes
There’s no room for compromise

We need to get back
To the basics of life
A heart that is pure
And a love that is blind
A faith that is fervently
grounded in Christ
The hope that endures for all times
These are the basics,
we need to get back
To the basics of life

 

[Soma-Sight]

The newest rage is to reason it out
Just meditate and you can overcome every doubt
After all man is a god, they say
God is no longer alive

"To show them special mercy, I, dwelling in their hearts, destroy with the shining lamp of knowledge the darkness born of ignorance."

 

[Relic]

Bhakti yoga is the Hindu term for the spiritual practice of fostering of loving devotion to God , called bhakti. Traditionally there are 9 forms of bhakti yoga . Hindu movements in which bhakti yoga is the main practice are called bhakti movements.

Hinduism is very diverse....

Hindus condiser Christians adherants of Bhakti Yoga.

Well, Most "Christians" are NOT adherents of Bhakti Yoga.

Most "Christians" DO NOT LOOK TO OTHER SPIRITS OR gods or goddesses for their means of meditation, nor do most "Christians" rely on other spirits or gods or goddesses. JESUS IS THE ONLY SOURCE and the ONLY WAY, The ONLY TRUTH. If you don't believe and live by that and you then you dare to say you are a "Christian", well then, you are an apostate who commits adultery against the Holy spirit of JHVH GD. Judeo Christian teachings do not look to other sources, The Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus is the ONLY WAY. Period!

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Bhakti (Bhakti: (Hinduism) loving devotion to a deity leading to salvation and Nirvana; open to all persons independent of caste or sex) is the Hindu term that signifies a blissful, selfless and overwhelming love of God as the beloved Father, Mother, Child, or whatever relationship or aspect of God that finds appeal in the devotee's heart.

Whatever is appealing, aye SomaSight?
Any old god or goddess will do, and don't forget SHIVA! Let that Shiva crawl up your spine and touch on each chakra! :-? :roll:

The only thing you'll get out of that is shiva's up your spine! : (pun intended)

Like devotion to Jesus.

But However, It is NOT devotion TO Jesus! And it is not a "Christian", it is a religion of many gods and goddesses and of many froms of meditations which many are perversions that have nothing to do with JHVH GD/ The HOLY SPIRIT OF Jesus Christ. :roll:

The philosophy of Bhakti seeks to tap into the universal divinity through personal form, which explains the proliferation of so many gods (gods: The supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions) and Goddesses (Goddess: A female deity) in India (India: A republic in the Asian subcontinent in southern Asia; second most populous country in the world; achieved independence from the United Kingdom in 1947) , often reflecting the personal inclinations of small regions or groups of people.
[/quote] [quote][quote=Relic]I'v...s are in my prayers. I'm done here. .

 

[bhakthi]

"'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." Isaiah;7:

If you are talking to me, I am not following men's teachings. I am trying to follow everything what Jesus and His disciples are teaching in NT. You don't seems to know the difference. You seem to be taking a pick.

I am not talking to yiu personally.I am talking generally.

"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." 1 Timothy 4 :1

 

[gingercat]

Soma sight,

Relic is very devoted Christian. I agree with everything what he is saying. I hope you read New Testament thoroghly from beginning to end.

I know you don't want to be judgmental, and want to be accepted by secular world, but Jesus' teachings will not be accepted by most of the world. You have to remember that this world is so confused and filled with the hatred because they are rejecting Him and His teachings.

sincerely, hitomi

 

[Vic C.]

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Jesus did not say, "God and other spirits". No no no no. :-?

 

[thessalonian]

Soma,

That someone found some writings by pagans that use the word elohim proves nothing of the origin of the word. That they adapted it to their understandings of who God is means nothing either. Most scholars agree that the first five books of the Bible were written in the time of Moss. They had been passed down orally before that. That cruciforms were written before Moses or whoever the scribe was wrote down the story of Geneis only proves that a pagan may have written the word down before the time of Moses. It does not prove they were the first to use the word or that the word had pagan origins. What makes him think the writing was the origin of the word. By the way, the story of genesis may have been written down before the time of moses. We just don't have any evidence. That we don't have cruciforms before the pagan ones would not mean they never existed.

 

[Soma-Sight]

Most "Christians" DO NOT LOOK TO OTHER SPIRITS OR gods or goddesses for their means of meditation, nor do most "Christians" rely on other spirits or gods or goddesses. JESUS IS THE ONLY SOURCE and the ONLY WAY, The ONLY TRUTH. If you don't believe and live by that and you then you dare to say you are a "Christian", well then, you are an apostate who commits adultery against the Holy spirit of JHVH GD. Judeo Christian teachings do not look to other sources, The Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus is the ONLY WAY. Period!

Fair enough.

Jesus is the King of Kings there can be no denying that. Oftentimes I ask myself why I even bother looking into other ways of life when I am surrounded almost exclusively by Christians and people that have no idea what "Moksha" even means.

I wonder if you grew up in a predominantly Xtian area of the world Relic like I have?

One day when I drove from my home town in CA to Long Beach I counted 15 CROSSES on cars, on Churches, etc......

This nation is SATURATED with Xtian ideals....

I wonder how much this affects "conversions"?

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

What does this REALLY mean? Sure you can imagine some caucasian dude flying out of the clouds to save you from the pit of hades but I believe it is more than just this.

JESUS IS A "WAY" OF "LIFE" THAT IS FILLED WITH "TRUTH". He is the abstract principles of these three words incarnated into the flesh. The purpose of this verse to ME is the EMULATION of these principles in the fashion of Jesus. Not not some vain imaginings of a hippy with sandals coiming at the end of time.

For all "practical" purposes Jesus is an "idea" as most men have not had a direct encounter with His physical person.

Whatever is appealing, aye SomaSight?
Any old god or goddess will do, and don't forget SHIVA! Let that Shiva crawl up your spine and touch on each chakra!

The only thing you'll get out of that is shiva's up your spine! (pun intended)

In all seriousness have you ever experienced a Kundalini awakening?

But However, It is NOT devotion TO Jesus! And it is not a "Christian", it is a religion of many gods and goddesses and of many froms of meditations which many are perversions that have nothing to do with JHVH GD/ The HOLY SPIRIT OF Jesus Christ.

Maybe we are misunderstanding each other on one point.

You view any sort of mystical experience of God as Satanic but many of the founding members and influencial people in YOUR CHURCH had such experiences which are QUITE SIMILAR to Hindu examples.

Some examples of Christian mystics:

St. Paul (? -c. 66)
St. John the Baptist
St. John the Apostle (? -c.100)
St. Peter
St. Clement of Alexandria (? -216)
Evagrius Ponticus (345-399)
St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430)
Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite (5th century)
St. Gregory I (590-604)
St. Isaac the Syrian (c.700)
St. Symeon the New Theologian (949–1022)
Saint Anselm (1033-1109)
Hugh of Saint Victor (1096-1141)
Richard of St. Victor (? -1173)
St. Hildegard of Bingen (1098-1179)
Mechthild of Magdeburg (1210-1279)
Meister Eckhart (c. 1260 - 1327/8)
St. Gregory Palamas (1296 - 1359)
St. Bridget of Sweden (1302-1373)
St. Julian of Norwich (1342-c.1416)
Margery Kempe (c.1373-1438)
St. Teresa of Avila (1515-1582)
St. John of the Cross (1542-1591)
Jakob Boehme (1575-1624)
Sir Thomas Browne (1605-1682)
Angelus Silesius (1624-1677)
George Fox (1624-1691)
Sarah Wight (1632-?)
Madame Guyon (1648-1717)
Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772)
John Woolman (1720-1772)
William Blake (1757-1827)
St. Seraphim of Sarov (1759-1833)
Anna Catherine Emmerich (1774-1824)
St. Jakob Lorber (1800 - 1864)
Thomas Merton (1915-1968)
Thomas Keating (1923-?)
St. John of Kronstadt (1829-1908)
St. Therese of Lisieux (1873-1897)
St. John Maximovich (1896-1966)
Aiden Wilson Tozer (1897-1963)
St. Padre Pio (1887-1968)
St. Faustina Kowalska (1905-1938)
Pope Pius XII (1876-1958)
Pope John Paul II (1920-2005)
Boyd Rice
Richard Foster
David Tibet


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_ ... an_mystics

Don't forget guys, even satan comes in the guise of an angel of light.

Satan APPEARS as an Angel of Light but can he is NOT really one. Can he do GOOD WORKS or produce GOOD FRUITS like the example of the healed woman through Yoga I have produced previously?

I AM A CHRISTIAN and that means I don't rely on any other gods, goddesses or other spirits or meditations calling upon other spiritual forces that are NOT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF CHRIST JESUS. The only spirit I need is the HOLY SPIRIT OF CHRIST JESUS living in me and through me. If you need other sources, then you are not true to "Christian-ity"..Period

And how do you express this Holy Spirit "living in you"?

HOW DO YOU ACCESS THE LIVING JESUS PRESENCE INSIDE OF YOU?????

DO YOU NOT LIE DOWN, BREATH OUT AND ASK HIM TO DWELL IN YOUR HEART???????

ARE YOU NOT ALONE WHEN YOU FEEL CHRIST'S PRESENCE MOST STRONGLY AND FREE FROM THE WORRIES OF THE WORLD?

THIS IS "MEDITATION" MY FRIEND!

Do what you will shall be the whole of the law.
~ Aleister Crowley~

Crowley is an idiot.

If you want to pervert the truth about JUDEO CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS, then I am finished with you. Go your way, and I'll go mine. And Let the Lord God deal with you in Due time. I've done my part in this thread, Now enough is enough.

Listen. I understand where you are coming from as I have been in your same shoes.

BUT BEWARE THE ANGER THAT COMES FROM THIS EXCLUSIVISTIC MENTALITY. Especially when you slip up through hypocrisy like I have done.

I've had it with this place. I'm out of here. Too many people come on board in violation of giving respect to this being a "CHRISTIAN BASED WEB FORUM", they deny the FULL GOSPEL and ignore the teachings of Jesus, they lose sight of the FULL Gospel of our LORD AND SAVIOR, but instead, they out right promote other religions and meditations as if it's okay to include them into the "CHRISTIAN" beliefs. Sorry, Soma-Sight, but I don't need no other god or goddesses, don't need no other spirit force or form of meditation that tells me to empty my mind or think upon some shiva that crawls up my spine!

For the record I enjoy your posts and find you wuite knowledgeable about these sorts of things. Have patience with the lost and remember it takes TIME and PATIENCE to convert a lost soul. :wink:

I've had enough of this garbage, you guys aren't even Christians. Nothing but a bunch of atheists and gnostics come back bickering against the JUDEO CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS. And you have no intentions of wanting to learn from the bible or be true to Christ Jesus. You only come here to create conflict. Well, I've had enough of your nonsense. Enjoy the rest of your argument without me. I'm not going to bicker with a bunch of atheists and gnostics who have no intentions of loyalty to Christ Jesus.

Once again I must say Jesus is the Mac Daddy. Conflict will naturally arise when we have been taught to hate all other cultures save the Biblegod one.

 

[Soma-Sight]

Soma,

That someone found some writings by pagans that use the word elohim proves nothing of the origin of the word. That they adapted it to their understandings of who God is means nothing either. Most scholars agree that the first five books of the Bible were written in the time of Moss. They had been passed down orally before that. That cruciforms were written before Moses or whoever the scribe was wrote down the story of Geneis only proves that a pagan may have written the word down before the time of Moses. It does not prove they were the first to use the word or that the word had pagan origins. What makes him think the writing was the origin of the word. By the way, the story of genesis may have been written down before the time of moses. We just don't have any evidence. That we don't have cruciforms before the pagan ones would not mean they never existed.

So much for the proof that Moses wrote these books!

 

[thessalonian]

????

I don't follow. The books were written in the time of Moses. That there are some stories in pagan cultures that resemble the Jeish ones, that there are words in the pagan cultures that are also used in the story Moses wrote, proves nothing at all. The stories were carried on orally from the time of Adam and some would likely have made their way in to pagan cultures, having Adam as their original parent as well. They also would have kept some of the language originating from Adam, but there is no guarantee the meanins would be exactly the same. Languages evolve as well. The conclusions you are drawing are far from certain at all. Your basis is that something got written down by pagans first so they were the origin of it. This is very poor logic and far from a certainty.

Blessings

 

[Soma-Sight]

FOLLOWING STUDIES TAKEN FROM PUBMED - NATIONAL LIBRARY OF "WESTERN" MEDICINE.....

Complementary and alternative medicine: is there a role in multiple sclerosis?

Yadav V, Bourdette D.

Department of Neurology L226, Oregon Health & Science University, 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Road, Portland, OR 97239, USA. yadavv@ohsu.edu.

Despite effective conventional therapies for multiple sclerosis (MS), many people with MS explore complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) therapies for their symptoms. Common CAM therapies that people use include dietary modification, nutritional and herbal supplementation, and mind-body therapies. There is a revival of interest among MS researchers about the therapeutic potential of low-fat diet and essential fatty acid supplementation in MS. The efficacy of specific vitamin supplementation remains unclear. Recently, cannabis and yoga have been studied in more controlled studies and have provided evidence that they may have some benefit. The research on CAM therapies in MS is still exploratory, but considering peoples' interest and common use of these therapies, further research in this area is clearly warranted.

PMID: 16635436 [PubMed - in process]


Effect of Sahaj Yoga on depressive disorders.

Sharma VK, Das S, Mondal S, Goswampi U, Gandhi A.

Department of Physiology, Vardhaman Mahavir Medical College, New Delhi--110 029. drviveksharma@yahoo.com

Sahaj Yoga is a meditative technique that has been found to have beneficial effects in some psycho-somatic illnesses. The study was carried out on 30 cases (19 Males, 11 females, age 18-45 years) of major depression diagnosed on the basis of DSM IV criteria. The patients were then randomly divided into two groups: Group 1: (10 Males & 5 Females) Patients who were practising Sahaj Yoga and also received conventional anti-depressants. Group 2: (9 Males & 6 Females) Patients who were only receiving conventional anti-depressants. Training in Sahaj yoga was conducted under the supervision of a trained Sahaj Yogi for 8 weeks. At start of the study, all the patients were subjected to Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression (HAM-D) and Hamilton Rating Scale for Anxiety (HAM-A). Above scales were again assessed after two months of treatment. There was significant improvement in HAM-D as well as HAM-A scores in both Group 1 and Group 2 patients (P<0.001). However, percentage improvement in HAM-D scores and HAM-A scores in patients receiving Sahaj Yoga was significantly higher than in Group 2 patients. The number of patients who went into remission after two months of intervention were also significantly higher in Group 1 patients (P=0.02). The present study demonstrates that Sahaj Yoga has got a potential role as a component in the management of depressive disorders.

Publication Types:
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 16579401 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


The beneficial effect of yoga in diabetes.

Malhotra V, Singh S, Tandon OP, Sharma SB.

Department of Physiology, University College of Medical Sciences and Guru Tegh Bahadur Hospital, Delhi. dr_varun@yahoo.com

Twenty NIDDM subjects (mild to moderate diabetics) in the age group of 30-60 years were selected from the out patient clinic of G.T.B. hospital. They were on a 40 days yoga asana regime under the supervision of a yoga expert. 13 specific Yoga asanas < or = done by Type 2 Diabetes Patients included. Surya Namaskar, Trikonasana, Tadasana, Sukhasana, Padmasana, Bhastrika Pranayama, Pashimottanasana, Ardhmatsyendrasana, Pawanmuktasana, Bhujangasana, Vajrasana, Dhanurasana and Shavasana are beneficial for diabetes mellitus. Serum insulin, plasma fasting and one hour postprandial blood glucose levels and anthropometric parameters were measured before and after yoga asanas. The results indicate that there was significant decrease in fasting glucose levels from basal 208.3 +/- 20.0 to 171.7 +/- 19.5 mg/dl and one hour postprandial blood glucose levels decreased from 295.3 +/- 22.0 to 269.7 +/- 19.9 mg/dl. The exact mechanism as to how these postures and controlled breathing interact with somatoendocrine mechanism affecting insulin kinetics was worked out. A significant decrease in waist-hip ratio and changes in insulin levels were also observed, suggesting a positive effect of yoga asanas on glucose utilisation and fat redistribution in NIDDM. Yoga asanas may be used as an adjunct with diet and drugs in the management of Type 2 diabetes.

PMID: 16519085 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



Randomized, controlled, six-month trial of yoga in healthy seniors: effects on cognition and quality of life.

Oken BS, Zajdel D, Kishiyama S, Flegal K, Dehen C, Haas M, Kraemer DF, Lawrence J, Leyva J.

Department of Neurology and Behavioral Neuroscience, Oregon Health and Science University, Portland, OR, USA.

CONTEXT: There are potential benefits of mind-body techniques on cognitive function because the techniques involve an active attentional or mindfulness component, but this has not been fully explored. OBJECTIVE: To determine the effect of yoga on cognitive function, fatigue, mood, and quality of life in seniors. DESIGN: Randomized, controlled trial comparing yoga, exercise, and wait-list control groups. PARTICIPANTS: One hundred thirty-five generally healthy men and women aged 65-85 years. INTERVENTION: Participants were randomized to 6 months of Hatha yoga class, walking exercise class, or wait-list control. Subjects assigned to classes also were asked to practice at home. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Outcome assessments performed at baseline and after the 6-month period included a battery of cognitive measures focused on attention and alertness, the primary outcome measures being performance on the Stroop Test and a quantitative electroencephalogram (EEG) measure of alertness; SF-36 health-related quality of life; Profile of Mood States; Multi-Dimensional Fatigue Inventory; and physical measures related to the interventions. RESULTS: One hundred thirty-five subjects were recruited and randomized. Seventeen subjects did not finish the 6-month intervention. There were no effects from either of the active interventions on any of the cognitive and alertness outcome measures. The yoga intervention produced improvements in physical measures (eg, timed 1-legged standing, forward flexibility) as well as a number of quality-of-life measures related to sense of well-being and energy and fatigue compared to controls. CONCLUSIONS: There were no relative improvements of cognitive function among healthy seniors in the yoga or exercise group compared to the wait-list control group. Those in the yoga group showed significant improvement in quality-of-life and physical measures compared to exercise and wait-list control groups.


Many, many more sceintific studies on the "good fruits" of Satanic power found on bana fide PUBMED.....

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[thessalonian]

Methods of relaxation and stress relief can be beneficial. Yoga incorporates some of these. If one can keep the physical separate from the spiritually dangerous in yoga there certainly could be benefits as your post demonstrates. But the problem is that the physical benefits do not prove the spiritual and it is difficult for the common person to not confuse that issue. Apprarently you are having some trouble in that area Soma. I highly recommend that someone who wants these physical benefits to find another method of stress relief and relaxation. Here in Minnesota we call it fishing. No spritual pitfalls there. Unless the big one gets off and you let out a naughty word.

 

[thessalonian]

By the way, the health benefits of the relaxation techniques of yoga only show that "the sun shines on the good and the bad". By this I mean, the health benefits have as their source the one true God. This is not a confirmation of the yoga spirituallity any more than the health benefits of the early Olympics, founded by the pagans proved that paganism was true. That they will not acknowledge the one true God who gives these benefits but rather go for false God's is very sad.

Soma, are you going to answer my last post. I really want to know how I have proven that Moses did not write the first five books?

Blessings

 

[Vic C.]

OK, we have just reached the point of trying to promote another Religion. It STOPS RIGHT NOW!

Soma Sight, you said, "JESUS IS A "WAY" OF "LIFE" THAT IS FILLED WITH "TRUTH"."

That is NOT what the verse says nor does it imply that. It says I am THE Way, THE Truth and THE life. Brother, these are absolutes and as far as I'm concerned, these IS NO other way to interpret this other than what it says.

We've been through this exercise before, but take a deep breath and imagine Jesus saying these words to His followers. Now read them out loud, emphesizing the words I set in bold.

I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN cometh unto the Father, but by ME.

Jesus spoke with the authority of the Father; this is how He would have said those words.

 

[DivineNames]

Did you know that certain physical manipulations during a session in the therapy called Reiki can rouse emotions in a person that were so deeply rooted in past experiences of this person? And, did you know that these emotions which have been brought to the fore by the physical manipulations of the Reiki practitioner are not surprising or of any new experience to deal with by the Reiki practitioner? They are trained to know how to deal with "EMOTIONS" that come sprouting out of their clients during their treatments! And you think Yoga has no such effects of the body of persons who don't know what they are doing when it comes down to certain manipulations of the body? If that being so, then you are blind to the truth about the physical ties of the body to the spiritual essence within all living beings! And those who are ignorant to the core of that which brings on manifestations from out of the physical, are in for some unexpected experiences from which they know not what happened to them, or where it came from.
Maybe this whole thing about the connection of the physical with the spiritual is just too much over your head, and so you take the connections for granted and think nothing of it.
And, do you ever wonder how hypnotists can do what they do to their subjects?

What on earth?