Just say NO!!!!

[Christ_empowered]

I just don’t see how one can say that one believes every human life has intrinsic value and then go against even basic gun control.

 

[Corn Pop]

Surely there is enough data to do some math and statistics. The USA has how many states and with different rules, so figure it out. I mean a state that allows carry, what's the gun crime rate or mass shootings and how many stores get robbed by criminals with advantage compared to other states?.

 

[Corn Pop]

Whats the armed robbery rate in say a state with more gun restrictions than say a state where a shop owner can defend themselves?. You still have states where people can open carry right?. Correct me if im wrong.

 

[Corn Pop]

A tiny minoroty of criminals taking advantage of the high majority of responsible because everyone is seen as weak vulnerable targets. Prisons are full, they been given too much easy opportunity.

 

[miamited]

Surely there is enough data to do some math and statistics. The USA has how many states and with different rules, so figure it out. I mean a state that allows carry, what's the gun crime rate or mass shootings and how many stores get robbed by criminals with advantage compared to other states?.

Hi King Dan of Great the 1st

No! You can't do it by state in a nation that has freedom of movement between states. In that case there's no way that law enforcement can keep firearms out of their area without having roadside weapons checks around every town and village and berg. It has to on a national level. Where those that are not a part of it are screened and checked and frisked when they get off of the plane, boat, train, car, etc. that brought them here.

So no. I'm sorry and I know that that's what the NRA tells you is the 'proof' that gun laws don't work. But if you're honest and look at closed systems, then there is ample evidence that it does.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Nobody]

I legally carry a handgun, as does my wife, whenever we are out. The only place currently that restricts my rights is the doctor's office. They can keep on pushing the phoney COVID and Flu vaccines but I have to leave my gun in the car.

 

[Nobody]

I would not shoot a thief outside my home. I may just give them a warning and maybe a couple safe shots behind them to encourage a speedy withdrawal. Inside the home it's different rules altogether.

 

[Nobody]

Hi King Dan of Great the 1st

No! You can't do it by state in a nation that has freedom of movement between states. In that case there's no way that law enforcement can keep firearms out of their area without having roadside weapons checks around every town and village and berg. It has to on a national level. Where those that are not a part of it are screened and checked and frisked when they get off of the plane, boat, train, car, etc. that brought them here.

So no. I'm sorry and I know that that's what the NRA tells you is the 'proof' that gun laws don't work. But if you're honest and look at closed systems, then there is ample evidence that it does.

God bless,
Ted

A closed system like Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, et al. With no cash bail for murder suspects the new democratic slogan, I'm going to be armed.

 

[jasonc]

Ok, 14 year old sells drugs ,drive while drunk ,has two guns and hits a state owned military post fence .ft.pierce doesn't even charge him and this wasn't hist first time .no law will work when they do that .
His idea of that is the military version.tou can't store or carry conceal and yet we'll ft.hood shooting twice ,and also Norfolk . Soldiers also using govt guns to commit crimes .

I just don’t see how one can say that one believes every human life has intrinsic value and then go against even basic gun control.

 

[miamited]

A closed system like Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, et al. With no cash bail for murder suspects the new democratic slogan, I'm going to be armed.

Hi Nobody

No, none of those cities operate as a closed system. I don't think you're understanding the importance of this happening within a defensible boundary of some kind. There is not a city within the U.S. that has a defensible boundary. That is only available on the national level in the U.S. Now, I have traveled in Mexico and sometimes they'll set up roadblocks around an area and you have to stop and show your passport and tell them why you're going the way you're going, but the U.S. is neither ready, nor is it necessary for this discussion, for that to be.

But you cannot handle the question of whether or not gun control works, except as applied to a closed system or authority. For example: It works in Great Britain overall, but from city to city within the borders of Great Britain the numbers are pretty much the same on a per capita basis. In 2019 the UK recorded .04 deaths by gun violence. That same year the U.S. was 3.96. That's per capita and so it takes in all the population variables. However, the gun violence deaths likely hovered around .04 in most of the major metropolitan areas of the nation. You couldn't stop Londoners from bringing a firearm from London to Wales because there wouldn't be anyway to prevent the transport.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Corn Pop]

Hi King Dan of Great the 1st

No! You can't do it by state in a nation that has freedom of movement between states. In that case there's no way that law enforcement can keep firearms out of their area without having roadside weapons checks around every town and village and berg. It has to on a national level. Where those that are not a part of it are screened and checked and frisked when they get off of the plane, boat, train, car, etc. that brought them here.

So no. I'm sorry and I know that that's what the NRA tells you is the 'proof' that gun laws don't work. But if you're honest and look at closed systems, then there is ample evidence that it does.

God bless,
Ted

I disagree to a point. Freedom of movement as you say, so how many armed robberies are there is a state with restrictions compared to a state where a shop owner can carry?. Do shops and properties get robbed more where people can carry?

 

[Corn Pop]

If there was 2 identical shops next to each other and the owner in 1 store has a gun and the owner of the other doesn't, I think it's obvious who a criminal would target.

 

[Corn Pop]

Shop owners where I live are getting sick and tired of being vulnerable victims and getting robbed, not only robbed but also attacked at the same time. It's out of control.

 

[Corn Pop]

There was a fatal stabbing not long ago on a shop owner. And then there is these barbaric mungrels.

 

[Corn Pop]

Dairy. They literally the local convenience stores in everyone's local neighborhood, forced to close down during covid, now they have to deal with this trash thats getting woree and worse and ramraids and robberies. They have had it tough.

 

[Corn Pop]

That shop has bollards to stop ramraids, stell gates, panic button, fog cannon, and it still doesn't work. By the time the cops arrive the damage is done. What's that saying.

 

[Edward]

I'm using a 7.5" barrel.

I like how you think! I too have a 7.5" in the most versatile caliber extant.

 

[miamited]

Hi King Dan of Great the 1st

I disagree to a point.

I understand.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Christ_empowered]

A closed system like Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, et al. With no cash bail for murder suspects the new democratic slogan, I'm going to be armed.

Omg bail issues…

It seems to be universal. Here where I live the inequality is becoming blatant and undermining what faith people had in the legal system. Serial offenders sometimes get low bond and reoffend on bond and then send me people have bail set so high they go through more hearings to try to get it lowered.

 

[Corn Pop]

The governmentnis suppose to lead by example and not have double standards. So they could disarm law enforcement and then say see there is no need for anyone to have guns in society.