A commentary on the Book of Revelation - Part 1

[Follower Of Christ]

Disclaimer: The writer is fully aware of Matthew 7:21-23. Daniel’s 70th week is still in the future and starts when the Age of Grace ends. Now, the only way for the Age of Grace to end is if Jesus Christ starts opening the seals and that is when from Matthew 24:12 “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” As long as true love resides in a crucial mass of Christians spread around the globe with allegiance to no human-appointed pope, prophet or apostle, then Daniel’s 70th week shall remain in the future. By a crucial mass of Christians, I mean a group of people for whom in this Laodicean era Revelation 3:20 applies and is taken to heart “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hears my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” The head of the Church is Christ and the body of believers is spread across the globe and does not belong to any denomination. Lastly, recall from 2 Thessalonians 2:7 “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he (The Holy Spirit) who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way.”

This commentary goes through the crucial timeline, and when needed supports it with writings from other books from the scriptures.

Revelation 1 to 3

From the island of Patmos, one in ancient times could take a trip from the 1st church of Ephesus to the 7th church in Laodicea along a mail route. This implies that these seven churches belong to seven distinct church eras where the end of the Laodicean era marks the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week, or the end of the Age of Grace. From Romans 11:25 “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” As mentioned in Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

Revelation 1 to 4

Notice Revelation 4:1 “Come up here and I will show you what must take place after this.” Hence, the events in Revelation 4 and later happen right after the end of the Laodicean era or the end of the Age of Grace. Again, from Daniel 9:25 “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.” Hence, in early 445BC Artaxerxes fourth decree allowed Nehemiah safe passage to Jerusalem to rebuild the walls and the city. Now 69 prophetic weeks are 483 years of 360 days each. In Gregorian calendar we go from early 445BC subtracting 483*360/365.25 = 476 years which gets us to 31 AD or the crucifixion of Christ. Daniel’s 70th week is still for the future.

Further proof that Jesus Christ was crucified in 31 AD comes from Ezekiel 4:1-6. In Ezekiel 4 it is prophesied that Jerusalem shall fall twice: once under the Babylonians in 586 BC and another time under the Romans in September 7, 70 AD. From Ezekiel 4:2 “And lay siege against it (Jerusalem), and build a fort against it, and cast a mount against it; set the camp also against it, and set battering rams against it round about.” The iniquity of the house of Israel was to abandon Jerusalem and stop worshipping at the temple and it lasts for 390 prophetic years, or 390*360/365.25 = 384.4 Gregorian years which takes us up to 586 BC. Please see Micah 1:5 “What is the transgression of Jacob? Is it not Samaria?” Counting upward we get to mid-10th century BC when Solomon died and the kingdom was split in two. On the other hand, the iniquity of the house of Judah was to reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah and would last for 40 prophetic years or 40*360/365.25 = 39.4 years. Counting backwards we get to 31 AD the crucifixion date of Christ.

It is noted here also that Nehemiah did not return only with the tribe of Judah and Benjamin back to Jerusalem but also with the residue of Israel. From Nehemiah 11:20 “And the residue of Israel, of the priests, and the Levites, were in all the cities of Judah, everyone in his inheritance.” Further proof that the residue of ten tribes of Israel was still in Jerusalem or roundabout Israel comes from Luke 2:36 “And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with a husband seven years from her virginity.” This stands to show that in the time when Jesus Christ was on Earth, all the tribes of Israel had representation within the region and later had to disperse because of the Roman conquest in 70 AD.

 

[Ezekiel]

Christ did this on the cross, Exactly as it is written ( fulfilled )

 

[Follower Of Christ]

Christ did this on the cross, Exactly as it is written ( fulfilled )

Ok if that is what you believe I am not going to argue with you. But I have a question:

Ezekiel 3:3 states "And he said to me "Son of Man, feed your belly with this scroll that I give you and fill your stomach with it. Then I ate it, and it was in my mouth as sweet as honey." On the other hand on Revelation 10:9-10 we have "So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me: Take and eat it, it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey." What is this scroll that Ezekiel and John talk about? For Ezekiel and John are told to prophesy after eating the scroll.

 

[for_his_glory]

The seven year great tribulation, which is not found anywhere in scripture, was derived by mans misinterpretation of Daniel 9:24-27. This is what the Bible clearly reveals about the seventy weeks. From vs.24 to vs.27 was seventy weeks or 490 days (490 prophetic years when you add a day for a year principle), beginning with Ezra, Ezra chapter 1-6, rebuilding the temple to the time of the Messiah (Jesus Christ) being fulfilled in His birth, death and resurrection. In a sense it was a literal and spiritual temple that was being built. Ezra was teaching the people of the spiritual temple of God that indwelled in all that believed in God and of the coming of Messiah. There was actually a four hundred year span from Ezra till the birth of Jesus that God shut himself off from Israel because of their transgressions towards the Lord, Malachi Chapter 4, but saved a remnant that would believe in the coming of Messiah, Isaiah 10. As still today, God still waits for National Israel to repent and believe in the name of Jesus as they still follow Judaism.

Daniel 9:24-27 the Vision of the Seventy Weeks

Vs. 24 this verse shows us that the timing from Ezra to the cross was 490 days (490 Prophetic years) as within that time Ezra was reestablishing the law in Jerusalem until Jesus had fulfilled the end of transgression, made an end to sin, made reconciliation for iniquity and bring everlasting righteousness and to seal up the prophecy to fulfill parts of the law through the cross.

Vs. 25 from the time of the cross, which also means the last days, which includes what some like to separate and call The Great Tribulation, which is not mentioned anywhere in scripture and is not a separate event after the elect of God are caught up, but as the last days so we are in tribulation times until the end of the world as we know it, Acts 2:17; Hebrews 1:1,2; Matthew 24:4-31; Mark 13:24-31; Luke 21:5-36. These are just some of the scriptures that support that we will go through all things of Rev Chapter 6-21. Everyone will have opportunity to come unto salvation through Jesus Christ if they would only believe until the door of salvation is closed when Jesus calls us and we meet him in the clouds, which after this time no one can be saved, Matthew 25:10.

Vs.26 after 434 years that end in the year AD29 shall Messiah be cut off. Jesus was crucified after he was baptized in AD 29 three and a half years later. Jesus was cut off (killed) by the people of the Romans under Vespasian their prince that the Pharisees, Sanhedrin and the high priest who have favor with that destroy the city and the sanctuary (meaning Christ) and the end thereof shall be with a flood (Gods wrath) that will put an end to abominations by desolation or in other words a ruin to evil deeds. Daniel 9:27 explains the definitions of desolation of abominations or the ruin of evil deeds. There is no actual Desolations of Abominations where a so called Antichrist (emphasis on the capitol "A") will take a literal throne, but the desolation will be when the son of perdition, being the false prophet/last antichrist, tries to take his throne in Jerusalem, Daniel 11:36-45. Gods word never defines one great Antichrist, but says there are many antichrists, 1John2:18; 11 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Revelation 11:7. The seven years that some call the seven year tribulation means three and a half years beginning with the first six seals being the beginning of sorrows (first woe). The last three and a half years starting with the (second woe) with the sounding of the first trumpet and ending with the seventh trumpet that includes everything else written in Revelations that includes the time of Christ return for His Bride in Rev 19 up to the end when Satan is cast into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet and ends with the new Jerusalem being ushered down as then we will be with the Lord forever.

Vs.27 the 70th seven began with Christ baptism in AD 29 and three years later at the end of the first half of the 70th seven sacrifices and offering ceased because Christ hung on the cross. From the giving of the law in 458BC when Ezra went to establish the law, or to rebuild the spiritual city right to the cross where the first 69 sevens. The 70th seven is from the time of the cross until Jesus comes back in the air to call his Bride home and for the overspreading of abominations he will make desolate, or make an end to all who would not believe.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The last siege and destruction of the 2nd Temple and the wall was in 70AD as a revolt led by Titus as he broke through the walls and destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. The wall and the Temple were never rebuilt, nor will it be in the future. The Temple mount laid waste until the Dome of the Rock was built on it in 691AD by the caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. The Islamic control over the Dome of the Rock will never surrender the original temple mount back to the Jews.

The last decree to build and restore Jerusalem, including the building of the second Temple that took 49 days/49 prophetic years, came around 538BC with the decree given to Ezra by King Cyrus. Through much oppositions the city, walls and the second Temple were completed on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of King Darius II around 417BC as he reigned from 423BC to 404BC, Ezra Chapter 1-6. This was part of the vision given to Daniel as the full prophecy given to him is found in Daniel Chapters 9-12.

During the first six trumpets we read all the destruction that will befall earth and its inhabitants during God's great wrath being poured out into the world on those who are none of Christ as they refuse to repent. This will be worldwide which will cause much chaos and great fear in the hearts of those who have no understanding, Hosea 4:6, 7. They will be seeking a type of savior, yet rejecting the very Savior, Christ Jesus, who wants to save them.

During the sounding of the seventh trumpet they will accept this deceptive savior who is the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, who will take his seat in Jerusalem on the very Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock sits and even now is being refurbished. He will try and rule the nations for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and take its mark as he promises peace and safety displaying lying signs and wonders claiming he is God. Those who refuse will be taken captive and dealt with as many Christians will either become a slave or die a martyr's death, Rev 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21, At the end of the 3 1/2 years of the beast and its false prophet, Christ returns with His army (warring angels) from heaven and fights the final battle destroying the beast and false prophet by the spirit (word) of His mouth and the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, casting both into the lake of fire. Then will Christ destroy the remnant being those who followed after the beast out of the earth from every nation that have always followed and obeyed the beast.

Rev 20 This is the time of the gathering of the saints when Christ sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather all who are His that are asleep in the grave and alive at His coming, Matthew 24:29-31 as He then binds Satan for a time so he can not interfere with the gathering. Once we are gathered to Him Jesus lets Satan loose for a time to gather his army, which I believe to be his demonic angels, against the camp of the saints, but God consumes his army by fire sent down from heaven and Satan is then cast into the lake of fire. All those who have now been slain by Jesus are gathered with the rest of the dead and face God's final judgment as their names are not found written in the Lamb's book of life and are cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.

 

[Follower Of Christ]

The seven year great tribulation, which is not found anywhere in scripture, was derived by mans misinterpretation of Daniel 9:24-27. This is what the Bible clearly reveals about the seventy weeks. From vs.24 to vs.27 was seventy weeks or 490 days (490 prophetic years when you add a day for a year principle), beginning with Ezra, Ezra chapter 1-6, rebuilding the temple to the time of the Messiah (Jesus Christ) being fulfilled in His birth, death and resurrection. In a sense it was a literal and spiritual temple that was being built. Ezra was teaching the people of the spiritual temple of God that indwelled in all that believed in God and of the coming of Messiah. There was actually a four hundred year span from Ezra till the birth of Jesus that God shut himself off from Israel because of their transgressions towards the Lord, Malachi Chapter 4, but saved a remnant that would believe in the coming of Messiah, Isaiah 10. As still today, God still waits for National Israel to repent and believe in the name of Jesus as they still follow Judaism.

Daniel 9:24-27 the Vision of the Seventy Weeks

Vs. 24 this verse shows us that the timing from Ezra to the cross was 490 days (490 Prophetic years) as within that time Ezra was reestablishing the law in Jerusalem until Jesus had fulfilled the end of transgression, made an end to sin, made reconciliation for iniquity and bring everlasting righteousness and to seal up the prophecy to fulfill parts of the law through the cross.

Vs. 25 from the time of the cross, which also means the last days, which includes what some like to separate and call The Great Tribulation, which is not mentioned anywhere in scripture and is not a separate event after the elect of God are caught up, but as the last days so we are in tribulation times until the end of the world as we know it, Acts 2:17; Hebrews 1:1,2; Matthew 24:4-31; Mark 13:24-31; Luke 21:5-36. These are just some of the scriptures that support that we will go through all things of Rev Chapter 6-21. Everyone will have opportunity to come unto salvation through Jesus Christ if they would only believe until the door of salvation is closed when Jesus calls us and we meet him in the clouds, which after this time no one can be saved, Matthew 25:10.

Vs.26 after 434 years that end in the year AD29 shall Messiah be cut off. Jesus was crucified after he was baptized in AD 29 three and a half years later. Jesus was cut off (killed) by the people of the Romans under Vespasian their prince that the Pharisees, Sanhedrin and the high priest who have favor with that destroy the city and the sanctuary (meaning Christ) and the end thereof shall be with a flood (Gods wrath) that will put an end to abominations by desolation or in other words a ruin to evil deeds. Daniel 9:27 explains the definitions of desolation of abominations or the ruin of evil deeds. There is no actual Desolations of Abominations where a so called Antichrist (emphasis on the capitol "A") will take a literal throne, but the desolation will be when the son of perdition, being the false prophet/last antichrist, tries to take his throne in Jerusalem, Daniel 11:36-45. Gods word never defines one great Antichrist, but says there are many antichrists, 1John2:18; 11 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Revelation 11:7. The seven years that some call the seven year tribulation means three and a half years beginning with the first six seals being the beginning of sorrows (first woe). The last three and a half years starting with the (second woe) with the sounding of the first trumpet and ending with the seventh trumpet that includes everything else written in Revelations that includes the time of Christ return for His Bride in Rev 19 up to the end when Satan is cast into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet and ends with the new Jerusalem being ushered down as then we will be with the Lord forever.

Vs.27 the 70th seven began with Christ baptism in AD 29 and three years later at the end of the first half of the 70th seven sacrifices and offering ceased because Christ hung on the cross. From the giving of the law in 458BC when Ezra went to establish the law, or to rebuild the spiritual city right to the cross where the first 69 sevens. The 70th seven is from the time of the cross until Jesus comes back in the air to call his Bride home and for the overspreading of abominations he will make desolate, or make an end to all who would not believe.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The last siege and destruction of the 2nd Temple and the wall was in 70AD as a revolt led by Titus as he broke through the walls and destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. The wall and the Temple were never rebuilt, nor will it be in the future. The Temple mount laid waste until the Dome of the Rock was built on it in 691AD by the caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. The Islamic control over the Dome of the Rock will never surrender the original temple mount back to the Jews.

The last decree to build and restore Jerusalem, including the building of the second Temple that took 49 days/49 prophetic years, came around 538BC with the decree given to Ezra by King Cyrus. Through much oppositions the city, walls and the second Temple were completed on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of King Darius II around 417BC as he reigned from 423BC to 404BC, Ezra Chapter 1-6. This was part of the vision given to Daniel as the full prophecy given to him is found in Daniel Chapters 9-12.

During the first six trumpets we read all the destruction that will befall earth and its inhabitants during God's great wrath being poured out into the world on those who are none of Christ as they refuse to repent. This will be worldwide which will cause much chaos and great fear in the hearts of those who have no understanding, Hosea 4:6, 7. They will be seeking a type of savior, yet rejecting the very Savior, Christ Jesus, who wants to save them.

During the sounding of the seventh trumpet they will accept this deceptive savior who is the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, who will take his seat in Jerusalem on the very Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock sits and even now is being refurbished. He will try and rule the nations for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and take its mark as he promises peace and safety displaying lying signs and wonders claiming he is God. Those who refuse will be taken captive and dealt with as many Christians will either become a slave or die a martyr's death, Rev 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21, At the end of the 3 1/2 years of the beast and its false prophet, Christ returns with His army (warring angels) from heaven and fights the final battle destroying the beast and false prophet by the spirit (word) of His mouth and the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, casting both into the lake of fire. Then will Christ destroy the remnant being those who followed after the beast out of the earth from every nation that have always followed and obeyed the beast.

Rev 20 This is the time of the gathering of the saints when Christ sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather all who are His that are asleep in the grave and alive at His coming, Matthew 24:29-31 as He then binds Satan for a time so he can not interfere with the gathering. Once we are gathered to Him Jesus lets Satan loose for a time to gather his army, which I believe to be his demonic angels, against the camp of the saints, but God consumes his army by fire sent down from heaven and Satan is then cast into the lake of fire. All those who have now been slain by Jesus are gathered with the rest of the dead and face God's final judgment as their names are not found written in the Lamb's book of life and are cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.

I sure have a lot to think about regarding this for_his_glory. I am going to reflect on what you have said here and elsewhere and come back to you with questions. It has been my position so far that Daniel's 70th week is yet in the future, but I shall definitely have to think deeply about this. Thank you for reaching out with your material it has been helpful in terms of sharpening my understanding in these topics.

 

[Follower Of Christ]

The seven year great tribulation, which is not found anywhere in scripture, was derived by mans misinterpretation of Daniel 9:24-27. This is what the Bible clearly reveals about the seventy weeks. From vs.24 to vs.27 was seventy weeks or 490 days (490 prophetic years when you add a day for a year principle), beginning with Ezra, Ezra chapter 1-6, rebuilding the temple to the time of the Messiah (Jesus Christ) being fulfilled in His birth, death and resurrection. In a sense it was a literal and spiritual temple that was being built. Ezra was teaching the people of the spiritual temple of God that indwelled in all that believed in God and of the coming of Messiah. There was actually a four hundred year span from Ezra till the birth of Jesus that God shut himself off from Israel because of their transgressions towards the Lord, Malachi Chapter 4, but saved a remnant that would believe in the coming of Messiah, Isaiah 10. As still today, God still waits for National Israel to repent and believe in the name of Jesus as they still follow Judaism.

Daniel 9:24-27 the Vision of the Seventy Weeks

Vs. 24 this verse shows us that the timing from Ezra to the cross was 490 days (490 Prophetic years) as within that time Ezra was reestablishing the law in Jerusalem until Jesus had fulfilled the end of transgression, made an end to sin, made reconciliation for iniquity and bring everlasting righteousness and to seal up the prophecy to fulfill parts of the law through the cross.

Vs. 25 from the time of the cross, which also means the last days, which includes what some like to separate and call The Great Tribulation, which is not mentioned anywhere in scripture and is not a separate event after the elect of God are caught up, but as the last days so we are in tribulation times until the end of the world as we know it, Acts 2:17; Hebrews 1:1,2; Matthew 24:4-31; Mark 13:24-31; Luke 21:5-36. These are just some of the scriptures that support that we will go through all things of Rev Chapter 6-21. Everyone will have opportunity to come unto salvation through Jesus Christ if they would only believe until the door of salvation is closed when Jesus calls us and we meet him in the clouds, which after this time no one can be saved, Matthew 25:10.

Vs.26 after 434 years that end in the year AD29 shall Messiah be cut off. Jesus was crucified after he was baptized in AD 29 three and a half years later. Jesus was cut off (killed) by the people of the Romans under Vespasian their prince that the Pharisees, Sanhedrin and the high priest who have favor with that destroy the city and the sanctuary (meaning Christ) and the end thereof shall be with a flood (Gods wrath) that will put an end to abominations by desolation or in other words a ruin to evil deeds. Daniel 9:27 explains the definitions of desolation of abominations or the ruin of evil deeds. There is no actual Desolations of Abominations where a so called Antichrist (emphasis on the capitol "A") will take a literal throne, but the desolation will be when the son of perdition, being the false prophet/last antichrist, tries to take his throne in Jerusalem, Daniel 11:36-45. Gods word never defines one great Antichrist, but says there are many antichrists, 1John2:18; 11 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Revelation 11:7. The seven years that some call the seven year tribulation means three and a half years beginning with the first six seals being the beginning of sorrows (first woe). The last three and a half years starting with the (second woe) with the sounding of the first trumpet and ending with the seventh trumpet that includes everything else written in Revelations that includes the time of Christ return for His Bride in Rev 19 up to the end when Satan is cast into the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophet and ends with the new Jerusalem being ushered down as then we will be with the Lord forever.

Vs.27 the 70th seven began with Christ baptism in AD 29 and three years later at the end of the first half of the 70th seven sacrifices and offering ceased because Christ hung on the cross. From the giving of the law in 458BC when Ezra went to establish the law, or to rebuild the spiritual city right to the cross where the first 69 sevens. The 70th seven is from the time of the cross until Jesus comes back in the air to call his Bride home and for the overspreading of abominations he will make desolate, or make an end to all who would not believe.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The last siege and destruction of the 2nd Temple and the wall was in 70AD as a revolt led by Titus as he broke through the walls and destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. The wall and the Temple were never rebuilt, nor will it be in the future. The Temple mount laid waste until the Dome of the Rock was built on it in 691AD by the caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. The Islamic control over the Dome of the Rock will never surrender the original temple mount back to the Jews.

The last decree to build and restore Jerusalem, including the building of the second Temple that took 49 days/49 prophetic years, came around 538BC with the decree given to Ezra by King Cyrus. Through much oppositions the city, walls and the second Temple were completed on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of King Darius II around 417BC as he reigned from 423BC to 404BC, Ezra Chapter 1-6. This was part of the vision given to Daniel as the full prophecy given to him is found in Daniel Chapters 9-12.

During the first six trumpets we read all the destruction that will befall earth and its inhabitants during God's great wrath being poured out into the world on those who are none of Christ as they refuse to repent. This will be worldwide which will cause much chaos and great fear in the hearts of those who have no understanding, Hosea 4:6, 7. They will be seeking a type of savior, yet rejecting the very Savior, Christ Jesus, who wants to save them.

During the sounding of the seventh trumpet they will accept this deceptive savior who is the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, who will take his seat in Jerusalem on the very Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock sits and even now is being refurbished. He will try and rule the nations for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and take its mark as he promises peace and safety displaying lying signs and wonders claiming he is God. Those who refuse will be taken captive and dealt with as many Christians will either become a slave or die a martyr's death, Rev 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21, At the end of the 3 1/2 years of the beast and its false prophet, Christ returns with His army (warring angels) from heaven and fights the final battle destroying the beast and false prophet by the spirit (word) of His mouth and the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, casting both into the lake of fire. Then will Christ destroy the remnant being those who followed after the beast out of the earth from every nation that have always followed and obeyed the beast.

Rev 20 This is the time of the gathering of the saints when Christ sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather all who are His that are asleep in the grave and alive at His coming, Matthew 24:29-31 as He then binds Satan for a time so he can not interfere with the gathering. Once we are gathered to Him Jesus lets Satan loose for a time to gather his army, which I believe to be his demonic angels, against the camp of the saints, but God consumes his army by fire sent down from heaven and Satan is then cast into the lake of fire. All those who have now been slain by Jesus are gathered with the rest of the dead and face God's final judgment as their names are not found written in the Lamb's book of life and are cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.

So, if I understand Daniel 9 correctly, we have the following: For the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week we have Christ preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God and then crucified and resurrected. The remainder of 3.5 years is still for the future right? Or is the prophecy fulfilled with the sacking of Jerusalem on 70AD?

Related to the above how do you rationalize the 1290 and 1335 days in Daniel 12?

 

[for_his_glory]

So, if I understand Daniel 9 correctly, we have the following: For the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week we have Christ preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God and then crucified and resurrected. The remainder of 3.5 years is still for the future right? Or is the prophecy fulfilled with the sacking of Jerusalem on 70AD?

Related to the above how do you rationalize the 1290 and 1335 days in Daniel 12?

I really can not find much on the 1290 and 1335 years other than the two verses in Daniel 12:11-12. The only thing I can find is that 1290 days (30 literal days) and 1335 (75 literal days) as just a time period after the end of the 1260 days of the last abomination in the future when the son of perdition takes its literal seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12. 70AD was a prophecy, but the fulfillment of Daniel will come in the future as Daniel was told to close the book until the end of days when understanding would be known. This will be the greatest tribulation that has ever been or will ever be again during the last abomination of desolation with the son of perdition that will last 3 1/2 years before Christ returns.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation period (not a seven year) as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years. (First half and second half of the 2300 days)
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5
2300 days – Daniel 8:13, 14

The 70th week (490 prophetic years) begins with the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

Ezra 1: 2 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week (483 prophetic years). God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week (490 prophetic years) and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle John and we will be in that gap between the 69th week and the 70th week until God pours out his wrath upon those who refuse to repent during the seven trumpet and seven vial judgments then will Jesus return and sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His bride to Him.

The command to rebuild Jerusalem was in 457BC. Daniel 9:25 says it took 7 weeks (49 years) to rebuild. This brings us to 408BC.

Daniel says 62 weeks later (434 years) Messiah will arrive. This brings us to 27AD which is the end of week 69 and start of week 70. (408 -343 = 26. Add 1 year for year “0” and you come to 27AD)

Daniel 9:26, 27 says Messiah is cut off and in the midst of week 70th Jesus shall confirm the covenant (grace) and that which is determined (judged) will be that of Gods judgment of those not found written in the Lamb’s book of life.

 

[Rodger]

So, if I understand Daniel 9 correctly, we have the following: For the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week we have Christ preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God and then crucified and resurrected. The remainder of 3.5 years is still for the future right? Or is the prophecy fulfilled with the sacking of Jerusalem on 70AD?

Related to the above how do you rationalize the 1290 and 1335 days in Daniel 12?

No sir.

Jesus died and rose from the grave and sits in heaven today.

Two Jewish Rabbi's will be preaching from the re-built Temple in Jerusalem and will be killed at the 3 and 1/2 year mark of the 7 year Trib.

The last 3 and 1/2 years will be chaos and the judgment of God then will come Armageddon and the 2nd Coming.

All of that is yet in the future and will not take place until the Rapture removes the Church.

 

[Rodger]

I really can not find much on the 1290 and 1335 years other than the two verses in Daniel 12:11-12. The only thing I can find is that 1290 days (30 literal days) and 1335 (75 literal days) as just a time period after the end of the 1260 days of the last abomination in the future when the son of perdition takes its literal seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12. 70AD was a prophecy, but the fulfillment of Daniel will come in the future as Daniel was told to close the book until the end of days when understanding would be known. This will be the greatest tribulation that has ever been or will ever be again during the last abomination of desolation with the son of perdition that will last 3 1/2 years before Christ returns.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation period (not a seven year) as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years. (First half and second half of the 2300 days)
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5
2300 days – Daniel 8:13, 14

The 70th week (490 prophetic years) begins with the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

Ezra 1: 2 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week (483 prophetic years). God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week (490 prophetic years) and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle John and we will be in that gap between the 69th week and the 70th week until God pours out his wrath upon those who refuse to repent during the seven trumpet and seven vial judgments then will Jesus return and sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His bride to Him.

The command to rebuild Jerusalem was in 457BC. Daniel 9:25 says it took 7 weeks (49 years) to rebuild. This brings us to 408BC.

Daniel says 62 weeks later (434 years) Messiah will arrive. This brings us to 27AD which is the end of week 69 and start of week 70. (408 -343 = 26. Add 1 year for year “0” and you come to 27AD)

Daniel 9:26, 27 says Messiah is cut off and in the midst of week 70th Jesus shall confirm the covenant (grace) and that which is determined (judged) will be that of Gods judgment of those not found written in the Lamb’s book of life.

From a quick read of your post it seems to me that you are pretty much right on target Biblically.

Good job!

 

[Follower Of Christ]

Jesus died and rose from the grave and sits in heaven today.

Of course. Pardon me English is not my native language so I miss these nuances sometimes in translation. I stand corrected about this.

 

[Rodger]

So, if I understand Daniel 9 correctly, we have the following: For the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week we have Christ preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God and then crucified and resurrected. The remainder of 3.5 years is still for the future right? Or is the prophecy fulfilled with the sacking of Jerusalem on 70AD?

Related to the above how do you rationalize the 1290 and 1335 days in Daniel 12?

You did not post this to me, however when reading it I thought that since this is an open forum I would try to accommodate you.

As I am sure you know, the books of Daniel and Revelation are often studied together, because their prophecies concerning the end times dovetail with each other nicely.

Both books mention a certain number of days during the tribulation: .........
Daniel mentions 1,290 days and 1,335 days; Revelation mentions 1,260 days, for a total “discrepancy” of 75 days (1,335 – 1,260 = 75).

Daniel 12:11–12 says, ......
“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.”

Revelation 11:3 says,...........
“And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

The 1,260 days of the second half of the tribulation begins as the Antichrist breaks a SEVEN treaty, occupies the third Jewish temple, and sets up a profane and sacrilegious object of worship and declares that he is god. This 1,260-day period ends when the Antichrist is defeated at the battle of Armageddon upon Jesus’ return to earth. At that time, the tribulation will be at an end.

Daniel 12:11 mentions 1,290 days, however, which is 30 days more than the second half of the tribulation.

Different ideas have been put forward to explain what happens in those 30 extra days. One likely theory is that the land of Israel will be rebuilt in that month after the devastation it endured during the tribulation.

So then, Biblically speaking here is the timeline .........

1.
Sometime after the rapture of the church, the Antichrist enters a treaty with Israel. This begins the seven-year tribulation.
2. At the midpoint of the tribulation (1,260 days later), the Antichrist breaks the treaty, desecrates the temple, and begins to persecute the Jews.
3. At the end of the tribulation (1,260 days after the desecration of the temple), Jesus Christ returns to earth and defeats the forces of the Antichrist.
4. During the next 30 days (leading up to 1,290 days after the desecration of the temple), Israel is rebuilt and the earth is restored.
5. During the next 45 days (leading up to 1,335 days after the desecration of the temple), the Gentile nations are judged for their treatment of Israel.
6. The dispensation of the millennium begins, and it will last for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:3, 5–6).

 

[Rodger]

Of course. Pardon me English is not my native language so I miss these nuances sometimes in translation. I stand corrected about this.

The reason I said that was because you stated.........
"For the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week we have Christ preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God and then crucified and resurrected. "

That is what was not correct. Jesus preached when He was here but not anymore. The 1st 3.5 years of the Trib. has not yet come and will not come until the Rapture.

It is a blessing to speak with you.

 

[for_his_glory]

Rodger nowhere in scripture does it speak of a pretrib catching up of the saints or a seven year tribulation.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation period (not a seven year) as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years. (First half and second half of the 2300 days)
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5
2300 days – Daniel 8:13, 14

 

[Rondmon]

The writer is fully aware of Matthew 7:21-23. Daniel’s 70th week is still in the future and starts when the Age of Grace ends. Now, the only way for the Age of Grace to end is if Jesus Christ starts opening the seals and that is when from Matthew 24:12 “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.”

Verse 12 was specifically about the disciples time on earth, as a matter of fact verses 4-13 was about the disciples lives, verses 7-8 were merely Jesus showing why the end was later on in vs. 6 so the disciples would not come back during the 70 AD wars and get killed, and the church would no doubt have joined, if they though Jesus had come again.

Lastly, recall from 2 Thessalonians 2:7 “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he (The Holy Spirit) who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way.”

The words LET and LETTETH (lets here) means to bind. So, the holy spirit that binds will bind until he be taken out of the way [of the Anti-Christ].

Yes, the 70th week is [near] future. But the age of Grace ends when the church is raptured right? Well, not really, people get saved after the rapture, I think it ends with Jesus' 1000 year reign, because those men still have sin flesh, so grace is still needed, it end when God releases Satan and all those who follow him are consumed by fire, from that point on, we will be in a new Heaven and New earth.

This implies that these seven churches belong to seven distinct church eras where the end of the Laodicean era marks the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week, or the end of the Age of Grace. From Romans 11:25 “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”

The 7 Churches implies Divine Completion, the Church Age is over after Rev. 4:1 (Rapture) They do not represent eras imho, but 7 types pf churches throughout the church age, just in different places, of course.

Notice Revelation 4:1 “Come up here and I will show you what must take place after this.” Hence, the events in Revelation 4 and later happen right after the end of the Laodicean era or the end of the Age of Grace.

After the Rapture of the Church, grace is still around. Israel ATONES/Repents afterwards.

Ok if that is what you believe I am not going to argue with you. But I have a question:

Ezekiel 3:3 states "And he said to me "Son of Man, feed your belly with this scroll that I give you and fill your stomach with it. Then I ate it, and it was in my mouth as sweet as honey." On the other hand on Revelation 10:9-10 we have "So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me: Take and eat it, it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey." What is this scroll that Ezekiel and John talk about? For Ezekiel and John are told to prophesy after eating the scroll.

You are on the right track, do not allow anyone to knock you off that path.

That scroll is those two knowing THE END. I will tell you what it means. In order to move on to a FOREVER LIFE with God, a just God has to bring righteous judgment, so in Rev. 10 the Seven Thunders are just the 7 Trumps told in another manner (Divine Complete Judgment). So, John says its sweet in his mouth because God's righteous judgment will bring us into an eternal kingdom with Christ Jesus & God the Father. BUT........its sour in his stomach because billions of human being will have to be killed. So it is both a bitter and sweet event. The scroll represents those coming events as written by God Himself.

I will explain the 1290 and 1335 later.

 

[Follower Of Christ]

Verse 12 was specifically about the disciples time on earth, as a matter of fact verses 4-13 was about the disciples lives, verses 7-8 were merely Jesus showing why the end was later on in vs. 6 so the disciples would not come back during the 70 AD wars and get killed, and the church would no doubt have joined, if they though Jesus had come again.


The words LET and LETTETH (lets here) means to bind. So, the holy spirit that binds will bind until he be taken out of the way [of the Anti-Christ].

Yes, the 70th week is [near] future. But the age of Grace ends when the church is raptured right? Well, not really, people get saved after the rapture, I think it ends with Jesus' 1000 year reign, because those men still have sin flesh, so grace is still needed, it end when God releases Satan and all those who follow him are consumed by fire, from that point on, we will be in a new Heaven and New earth.


The 7 Churches implies Divine Completion, the Church Age is over after Rev. 4:1 (Rapture) They do not represent eras imho, but 7 types pf churches throughout the church age, just in different places, of course.


After the Rapture of the Church, grace is still around. Israel ATONES/Repents afterwards.









You are on the right track, do not allow anyone to knock you off that path.

That scroll is those two knowing THE END. I will tell you what it means. In order to move on to a FOREVER LIFE with God, a just God has to bring righteous judgment, so in Rev. 10 the Seven Thunders are just the 7 Trumps told in another manner (Divine Complete Judgment). So, John says its sweet in his mouth because God's righteous judgment will bring us into an eternal kingdom with Christ Jesus & God the Father. BUT........its sour in his stomach because billions of human being will have to be killed. So it is both a bitter and sweet event. The scroll represents those coming events as written by God Himself.

I will explain the 1290 and 1335 later.

Please let me know if you have read all 3 parts of my commentaries on this board together with adjoint messages. Then I am going to answer you. Blessings!

 

[Rondmon]

The reason I said that was because you stated.........
"For the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week we have Christ preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God and then crucified and resurrected. "

That is what was not correct. Jesus preached when He was here but not anymore. The 1st 3.5 years of the Trib. has not yet come and will not come until the Rapture.

It is a blessing to speak with you.

From my reading, I think he was trying to understand someone else's points, you know those who think Christ Jesus died mid way through the 70th week and thus "FULFILLED" the Covenant which of course is in error, we know the 70th week as not come. My brother, the 70th week starts when Israel joins the E.U. that sets of God's anger, and he raptures the church at that very moment. You have people who who can not see the Pre 70th week rapture, so we are on the same wave length, which is of course correct. Now I will go back and explain the 1290 and 1335 for you. have bee called to preach for 40 years, and my bent has always been towards prophecy because of a vision I had in 1986 where I was told by a BOOMING voice from above that "The Man of Sin is Here".

As I am sure you know, the books of Daniel and Revelation are often studied together, because their prophecies concerning the end times dovetail with each other nicely.

Correct, and all the bible dovetails. (SMILE) To those who know how to dig it all out.

Both books mention a certain number of days during the tribulation: .........
Daniel mentions 1,290 days and 1,335 days; Revelation mentions 1,260 days, for a total “discrepancy” of 75 days (1,335 – 1,260 = 75).

I have "explained this in detail" on here before, people do not want to hear it. So, when people get to heaven they will not be able to say, I did not know. I digress.

Daniel 12:11–12 says, ......
“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.”

Revelation 11:3 says,...........
“And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

These two passages kind of go together, but I don't think you get why.

So, verses 6 and 8 in Daniel 12 holds the key.

Different ideas have been put forward to explain what happens in those 30 extra days. One likely theory is that the land of Israel will be rebuilt in that month after the devastation it endured during the tribulation.

So then, Biblically speaking here is the timeline .........

1.
Sometime after the rapture of the church, the Antichrist enters a treaty with Israel. This begins the seven-year tribulation.
2. At the midpoint of the tribulation (1,260 days later), the Antichrist breaks the treaty, desecrates the temple, and begins to persecute the Jews.
3. At the end of the tribulation (1,260 days after the desecration of the temple), Jesus Christ returns to earth and defeats the forces of the Antichrist.
4. During the next 30 days (leading up to 1,290 days after the desecration of the temple), Israel is rebuilt and the earth is restored.
5. During the next 45 days (leading up to 1,335 days after the desecration of the temple), the Gentile nations are judged for their treatment of Israel.
6. The dispensation of the millennium begins, and it will last for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:3, 5–6).

Correct, I have seen 100s if not 1000s of theories on all of this, the 30 days are an extension, so are the 45 days, its a timeframe used to cleanse the temple etc. etc. you name it, I have seen it, but a proper reading shows this to be a very simple clue we have all missed, I missed this for 30 plus years, until I did an Exegesis on Daniel 11 & 12 where I name every king in Dan. 11 from Alexander the Great (ALXG) to Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4), with Onias III the high priest, and Jason his brother who bribed AE4 to be named the high priest, Jason was the archetype false prophet to come and AE4 was the archetype Anti-Christ to come. Anyhow, in my in depth studies, I looked very, very close at Daniel 12 and realized thus had to have been locked up by God because it is so simple we should not have ever missed it. I will show all this below, verses 6 and 8 hold the key.

Dan. 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen(Pre incarnate Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(1260 days); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

So, Jesus (Man in Linen) is asked a question by one of the two Angels in vs. 6 and he answers in vs. 7. Its a jumbled up answer but I will explain the basic meaning in tidy English. Jesus basically told this to Daniel in vs. 7. He swore by the heavens that from the time Israel gets conquered (power of the holy people are scattered) there will only be 1260 days until ALL THESE WONDERS END !! (The Dan. 11:36-45 events Daniel was just shown). So, what ends the Anti-Christs life we now know will be Jesus' Second Coming right? So, thise WONDERS end after 1260 days because Jesus shows up and kills the Anti-Christ/Little Horn.

 

[Rondmon]

CONTINUED..............

So, when in vs. 8 Daniel basically asks the exact same question, in a different word pattern, why is that that all men fail to see that these numbers also correspond unto the number of days until Jesus shows up to END ALL OF THESE THINGS ? Its the same fulcrum point, the second coming of Jesus which ends everything Daniel had been shown. We know the 1260 is the Anti-Christ/Little Horn but we seem to have no clue who the 1290 or 1335 are. I do, because God gaveb this to me because of my relentless pursuit of God's truths.

So, the 1335 comes first, it is 1335 days until ALL THESE WONDERS/THINGS END. The 1290 comes next, it is 1290 days until the Second Coming ends everything Daniel saw. The 1260 comes 30 days after the 1290 and 75 days after the 1335.

In my opinion the biggest hurdle people have is tunnel vision, as I did, when I herd this I was like, this means the A.C. can not be "THAT DUDE" that takes away the sacrifice and places the AoD and "THAT JUST CAN'T BE" !! (LOL) But it is true, reread Dan. 9:27 it says he (A.C.) "Causes" the Sacrifice to be TAKEN AWAY and the 1290 to be placed. He can not conquer until the DOTL/God's Wrath falls in the middle of the week. Do scriptures elsewhere affirm all this? Of course, I always try the spirits, especially when I doubt what I have just heard.

So, who does Rev. 13 say places the AoD ? It says very clearly that the 2nd Beast or False Prophet gets the people to make an IMAGE of the first Beast, so it is him that the 1290 is about, not the A.C. who can not go forth conquering until the 1260 event, which is 30 days later. Does this mesh with Matt. 24:15-17? Of course, haven't you ever wondered why God allows the A.C. to conquer Israel BEFORE he gives them the 1290 SIGN? So, God actually gives the sign before the Jews gets conquered, and thus they have 30 days to flee Judea, before the A.C. conquers Israel/Jerusalem. Makes sense right? Thus 1290 False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason under AE4. He takes away "THE SACRIFICE" or forbids Jesus worship, then places an image of the E.U. President up in the temple, I know all thus because I also figured out what the 1335 Blessing is.

The 1335 comes first, 1335 days before Jesus' 2nd coming ends all of these wonders/things and it is the Two-witnesses who show up BEFORE the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 says Elijah will be sent back BEFORE the DOTL. We also know Israel repent just before the DOTL, Zech. 13:8-9 shows us that 1/3 repent and that 2/3 refuse and will die. Then in the very next verse in Zechariah 14:1 we see the DOTL Arrives, in vs. 2 Israel gets sacked and in vs. 3 Jesus returns. So, Israel repents JUST BEFORE the DOTL (1260) events, at the 1335 which is 75 days before the 1260. They then start worshipping Jesus in the temple, like 5 million Jews (1/3) become Messianic Jews. That is when the A.C. (E.U. President) from afar orders the False Prophet to forbid Jesus Worship (TAKE AWAY or forbid "The Real Sacrifice" from being worshipped). Then he places the AoD 45 days after the Two-witnesses show up. The Jews who then repented will flee Judea unto the Petra/Bozrah area.

The Second Coming is the fulcrum point for all three numbers. Th final peg fir me was when I tested does this fit the Revelation timelines? Yes, it surely does. as we can easily see, both the Two-witnesses and the Beast have ordained by Gid 1260 day offices on this earth. Well, the Two-witnesses DIE at the 2nd Woe (Rev. 11) meanwhile the Beast DIES at the 7th Vial. So, it al meshes and passes every test. The Two-witnesses die before the Beast so the MUST SHOW UP before the Beast also, and they do, they are the 1335 Blessing.

 

[Follower Of Christ]

So, the 1335 comes first, it is 1335 days until ALL THESE WONDERS/THINGS END. The 1290 comes next, it is 1290 days until the Second Coming ends everything Daniel saw. The 1260 comes 30 days after the 1290 and 75 days after the 1335.

I have come to the same conclusion albeit from a different angle. It's on part 2 of the commentary on Book of Revelation.

 

[Rodger]

From my reading, I think he was trying to understand someone else's points, you know those who think Christ Jesus died mid way through the 70th week and thus "FULFILLED" the Covenant which of course is in error, we know the 70th week as not come. My brother, the 70th week starts when Israel joins the E.U. that sets of God's anger, and he raptures the church at that very moment. You have people who who can not see the Pre 70th week rapture, so we are on the same wave length, which is of course correct. Now I will go back and explain the 1290 and 1335 for you. have bee called to preach for 40 years, and my bent has always been towards prophecy because of a vision I had in 1986 where I was told by a BOOMING voice from above that "The Man of Sin is Here".


Correct, and all the bible dovetails. (SMILE) To those who know how to dig it all out.


I have "explained this in detail" on here before, people do not want to hear it. So, when people get to heaven they will not be able to say, I did not know. I digress.


These two passages kind of go together, but I don't think you get why.

So, verses 6 and 8 in Daniel 12 holds the key.


Correct, I have seen 100s if not 1000s of theories on all of this, the 30 days are an extension, so are the 45 days, its a timeframe used to cleanse the temple etc. etc. you name it, I have seen it, but a proper reading shows this to be a very simple clue we have all missed, I missed this for 30 plus years, until I did an Exegesis on Daniel 11 & 12 where I name every king in Dan. 11 from Alexander the Great (ALXG) to Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4), with Onias III the high priest, and Jason his brother who bribed AE4 to be named the high priest, Jason was the archetype false prophet to come and AE4 was the archetype Anti-Christ to come. Anyhow, in my in depth studies, I looked very, very close at Daniel 12 and realized thus had to have been locked up by God because it is so simple we should not have ever missed it. I will show all this below, verses 6 and 8 hold the key.

Dan. 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen(Pre incarnate Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(1260 days); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

So, Jesus (Man in Linen) is asked a question by one of the two Angels in vs. 6 and he answers in vs. 7. Its a jumbled up answer but I will explain the basic meaning in tidy English. Jesus basically told this to Daniel in vs. 7. He swore by the heavens that from the time Israel gets conquered (power of the holy people are scattered) there will only be 1260 days until ALL THESE WONDERS END !! (The Dan. 11:36-45 events Daniel was just shown). So, what ends the Anti-Christs life we now know will be Jesus' Second Coming right? So, thise WONDERS end after 1260 days because Jesus shows up and kills the Anti-Christ/Little Horn.

Brother.....may I give soome advice here.

Please focus on ONE thought at a time, post it and then allow for responce. When you run so many thoughts together it makes it impossible to respond with clarity.

 

[Rodger]

From my reading, I think he was trying to understand someone else's points, you know those who think Christ Jesus died mid way through the 70th week and thus "FULFILLED" the Covenant which of course is in error, we know the 70th week as not come. My brother, the 70th week starts when Israel joins the E.U. that sets of God's anger, and he raptures the church at that very moment. You have people who who can not see the Pre 70th week rapture, so we are on the same wave length, which is of course correct. Now I will go back and explain the 1290 and 1335 for you. have bee called to preach for 40 years, and my bent has always been towards prophecy because of a vision I had in 1986 where I was told by a BOOMING voice from above that "The Man of Sin is Here".


Correct, and all the bible dovetails. (SMILE) To those who know how to dig it all out.


I have "explained this in detail" on here before, people do not want to hear it. So, when people get to heaven they will not be able to say, I did not know. I digress.


These two passages kind of go together, but I don't think you get why.

So, verses 6 and 8 in Daniel 12 holds the key.


Correct, I have seen 100s if not 1000s of theories on all of this, the 30 days are an extension, so are the 45 days, its a timeframe used to cleanse the temple etc. etc. you name it, I have seen it, but a proper reading shows this to be a very simple clue we have all missed, I missed this for 30 plus years, until I did an Exegesis on Daniel 11 & 12 where I name every king in Dan. 11 from Alexander the Great (ALXG) to Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4), with Onias III the high priest, and Jason his brother who bribed AE4 to be named the high priest, Jason was the archetype false prophet to come and AE4 was the archetype Anti-Christ to come. Anyhow, in my in depth studies, I looked very, very close at Daniel 12 and realized thus had to have been locked up by God because it is so simple we should not have ever missed it. I will show all this below, verses 6 and 8 hold the key.

Dan. 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen(Pre incarnate Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(1260 days); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

So, Jesus (Man in Linen) is asked a question by one of the two Angels in vs. 6 and he answers in vs. 7. Its a jumbled up answer but I will explain the basic meaning in tidy English. Jesus basically told this to Daniel in vs. 7. He swore by the heavens that from the time Israel gets conquered (power of the holy people are scattered) there will only be 1260 days until ALL THESE WONDERS END !! (The Dan. 11:36-45 events Daniel was just shown). So, what ends the Anti-Christs life we now know will be Jesus' Second Coming right? So, thise WONDERS end after 1260 days because Jesus shows up and kills the Anti-Christ/Little Horn.

You said.............
"My brother, the 70th week starts when Israel joins the E.U. that sets of God's anger, and he raptures the church at that very moment.".

The timeline of the future end times is revealed in Daniel 9:27 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3.

The first important piece of the puzzle is to note that Daniel 9:27 says the Antichrist will make the peace treaty with Israel. When that occurs, the seven-year tribulation will start. So, if you are saying " Israel joins the E.U."
is THAT Seven year Peace treaty then you are Biblically correct.

We simply do not know from the Scriptures if there is a delay in time but I assume there is no time delay with the inception of the treaty and if there is a delay I do not think it will be long....maybe moths or likely weeks.

Then comes the Rapture as seen in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:9. T 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8 describes a time of peace and safety. Then 1 Thessalonians 5:9 promises believers that they will not have to live during the tribulation. That is, the rapture occurs before peace and safety which is the first part of the last seven-years described in Daniel 9:27. That peace starts when the antichrist signs the peace treaty (Daniel 9:27).