Daniel's Seventy Weeks

[for_his_glory]

I am talking about Isaiah 9:6, which says: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." This clearly has to do with Government which will last 1,000 years.
the Millennium—a thousand-year reign of Christ—is found in Revelation 20:1-6. This passage describes a period when Satan is bound, and Christ reigns with His saints on earth for 1,000 years.

Those of us who use the Book of Common Prayer,
every Sunday pray the Lord's Prayer.
They kingdom come, thy will be done.

We have different opinions on the 1000 years. I just can not see Jesus returning and we having to wait another 1000 years before God ushers down the New Jerusalem. Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21

 

[Elijah7777]

We have different opinions on the 1000 years. I just can not see Jesus returning and we having to wait another 1000 years before God ushers down the New Jerusalem. Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21

Do you think you know when Jesus is going to return? As far as when His feet touch the ground? That the angels talk about in the book of Acts.

The timing of Jesus' return is a question that has been debated for centuries. Matthew 24:36 states: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." This suggests that the exact moment is unknown and part of God's divine plan.

However, Zechariah 14:4 describes that His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, and Revelation 19:11-16 speaks of His return as a victorious King. Some interpretations suggest this will happen before or after a millennial reign, as described in Revelation 20:1-6.

 

[for_his_glory]

Do you think you know when Jesus is going to return? As far as when His feet touch the ground? That the angels talk about in the book of Acts.
no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." This suggests that the exact moment is unknown and part of God's divine plan.

However, Zechariah 14:4 describes that His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, and Revelation 19:11-16 speaks of His return as a victorious King. Some interpretations suggest this will happen before or after a millennial reign, as described in Revelation 20:1-6.

Many have been debating the return of Christ for centuries, but scripture is very clear that even Jesus does not know the day or the hour other then it being after the seventh trumpet, after all have taken the mark of the beast when final judgement of people will come. Matthew 24:29-31; Matthew 24:36; Rev 13; Rev 19:11-21.

 

[Elijah7777]

>Many have been debating the return of Christ for centuries, but scripture is very clear that even Jesus does not know the day or the hour other then it being after the seventh trumpet, after all have taken the mark of the beast when final judgement of people will come. Matthew 24:29-31; Matthew 24:36; Rev 13; Rev 19:11-21.

Zechariah 14:4-5 is very clear that there will be an earthquake when Jesus returns. What we now know about plate technotices shows us this verse is true. The verse in Acts confirms that His feet will touch the ground. He does not return for us. He returns with us. Those that are Holy.

"On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him."

 

[Elijah7777]

but scripture is very clear that even Jesus does not know the day or the hour

We do not know the day or the hour of the beginning of the Church on the day of Pentacost when Peter was preaching in the Upper room. We do not know the day and the hour that Jesus was born. For one thing, we use the Greek calendar, which is somewhat different from the Hebrew calendar. Bishop Ussher is considered to be someone accurate.

Bishop James Ussher, known for his biblical chronology, calculated the timeline of biblical events, including the creation of the world in 4004 BC. However, he did not specifically date Pentecost, when Peter preached in the Upper Room and the Church was born.

The traditional dating of Pentecost—the event recorded in Acts 2, where the Holy Spirit descended upon the apostles—is around AD 30 or 33, depending on scholarly interpretations of Jesus' crucifixion. Pentecost occurred 50 days after Passover, meaning it followed Jesus' resurrection.

I personally use the year 29 ad or 2029 ad. Because of Apophis, a near-Earth asteroid that will make a close approach to Earth on April 13, 2029. It is interesting the first time is on "good" Friday. Then the second time is 7 years later on resurrection sunday.

Luke 21:25 – "There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea." Jesus speaks of cosmic signs preceding His return.

In my case I should not still be here now. So I would be surprised if I make it to 2029.

 

[for_his_glory]

Zechariah 14:4-5 is very clear that there will be an earthquake when Jesus returns. What we now know about plate technotices shows us this verse is true. The verse in Acts confirms that His feet will touch the ground. He does not return for us. He returns with us. Those that are Holy.

"On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him."

Yes, scripture speaks about an earthquake when Jesus plants His feet on the Mt of Olives, but what is more important are these scriptures below that teaches us when Christ will return, but we do not know the day or the hour, but to be prepared to be caught up to Him when He returns.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1Cor 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Cor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Cor 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Cor 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Cor 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Cor 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[for_his_glory]

Bishop Ussher is considered to be someone accurate.

There are many that claim they are accurate, but yet as you pointed out that there is no exact to things concerning the return of Christ other then the signs He gave us to watch for, especially Matthew 24:29-31. Now is the time to be prepared to be caught up to meet Him in the air. 1Thessalonians 4:13-18

 

[Elijah7777]

Now is the time to be prepared to be caught up to meet Him in the air.

Many people were sure that Jesus was coming in the year 2,000. Or 2,000 years from His birth.

 

[Elijah7777]

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

People seem to think this means everyone everywhere. But I think this is more of a local situation. Like from a volcano or something like that. I think the rapture will be more of a secret rapture. NOT like the left behind that is so popular. We are all raptured out of here when we die. We all leave our body behind.

 

[for_his_glory]

Many people were sure that Jesus was coming in the year 2,000. Or 2,000 years from His birth.

And they were deceived in believing that Jesus would return back then. There are many date setters, but they are deceiving their own selves ignoring what Jesus said in Matthew 24:.

People seem to think this means everyone everywhere. But I think this is more of a local situation. Like from a volcano or something like that. I think the rapture will be more of a secret rapture. NOT like the left behind that is so popular. We are all raptured out of here when we die. We all leave our body behind.

People need to know that all these end time events in Matthew 24 leading up to the return of Christ on the last day will be Global as even now we are witnessing the times of sorrow.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Thess 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Thess 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Thess 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[Elijah7777]

People need to know that all these end time events in Matthew 24 leading up to the return of Christ on the last day will be Global as even now we are witnessing the times of sorrow.

You are talking about the end of the Kingdom Age. Right now we are at the beginning. In Flordia they have tropical storms, in California they have fires. But not every home in flordia is destroyed. Not ever house in California is burned. Jesus talks about those killed when the tower collapsed in Jerusalem2. He used this event to challenge the idea that disasters happen as punishment for sin. Instead of blaming the victims, Jesus emphasized that everyone needs repentance, saying: "Do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."

 

[for_his_glory]

You are talking about the end of the Kingdom Age. Right now we are at the beginning. In Flordia they have tropical storms, in California they have fires. But not every home in flordia is destroyed. Not ever house in California is burned. Jesus talks about those killed when the tower collapsed in Jerusalem2. He used this event to challenge the idea that disasters happen as punishment for sin. Instead of blaming the victims, Jesus emphasized that everyone needs repentance, saying: "Do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."

With what is happening in the world right now with all the various fires and earthquakes, even here in SC, the economy getting worse, Government becoming very corrupt, I believe we are in the beginning of sorrows that Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24:3-8. The call to repentance has always been there, but many turn a deaf ear to it as they have conformed themselves to the world neglecting the one who can save them from the rudiments of this world.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[Elijah7777]

even here in SC,

You maybe better prepared there than we are here. Although my son is talking about getting his masters degree in city planning. He does not see this as a need for the world to be rebuilt as much as just making our cities more progressive and modern.

They came home from WW1 and built a new world. Then we fixed up and repaired all of that after WW2. Now everyone seems to want to tear it down and start all over again. Cities like Detroit have been abandoned and are turning into a ghost town.

I am in a home that is 70 years old. It went through a major remodel 20 years ago. I am running into a need to repair from the remodel 20 years ago because they only built things to last 20 years back then. But the house itself was designed to last 100 years.

Cities like Detroit were designed to last 100 years. So they have pretty much run their course. The repairs are starting to get to be more than anyone wants to deal with.

 

[for_his_glory]

You maybe better prepared there than we are here. Although my son is talking about getting his masters degree in city planning. He does not see this as a need for the world to be rebuilt as much as just making our cities more progressive and modern.

They came home from WW1 and built a new world. Then we fixed up and repaired all of that after WW2. Now everyone seems to want to tear it down and start all over again. Cities like Detroit have been abandoned and are turning into a ghost town.

I am in a home that is 70 years old. It went through a major remodel 20 years ago. I am running into a need to repair from the remodel 20 years ago because they only built things to last 20 years back then. But the house itself was designed to last 100 years.

Cities like Detroit were designed to last 100 years. So they have pretty much run their course. The repairs are starting to get to be more than anyone wants to deal with.

It's almost like rich cities get richer and the oppressed cities get poorer. Here where I live use to be a booming town until the granite industry went under and now, even though there are a few businesses, the ones that use to be here have turned into buildings of despair. When big business dies out so does the cities that were once prosperous, but now look like ghost towns.

 

[Elijah7777]

It's almost like rich cities get richer and the oppressed cities get poorer. Here where I live use to be a booming town until the granite industry went under and now, even though there are a few businesses, the ones that use to be here have turned into buildings of despair. When big business dies out so does the cities that were once prosperous, but now look like ghost towns.

We use to be the rubber capital of the world. Every tire was made here in this city. But the unions got greedy and they moved the factory to other cites where people were willing to work for less money. We still do a lot of mold and die. My son travels all over the country to build and set up factories. He is on the cutting edge of all the new technology. He was working on Wolfspeed in North Carolina. This factory will be the world's largest silicon carbide materials manufacturing facility. They will be making nano-resistors or some sort of electronics. The quality control for nano is very exact and very precise on a very small scale. It is amazing how big computers were and how small they are getting to be now. Lots of people are on the cutting edge. They are ready and willing to build a new world and do not seem concerned about how we get rid of the old one we have right now. I have a friend here I have worked with. She travels all over the world building new factories. I joke with my son that he should get a job with Musk. So he can see what it is like to work 24 hours a day and sleep under your desk

It is interesting how the industrial north are moving the jobs south where people are willing to work for less money. Even half as much in some cases. Plus they never complain and always show up for work.

 

[Marilyn C]

Many have been debating the return of Christ for centuries, but scripture is very clear that even Jesus does not know the day or the hour other then it being after the seventh trumpet, after all have taken the mark of the beast when final judgement of people will come. Matthew 24:29-31; Matthew 24:36; Rev 13; Rev 19:11-21.

Hi FHG,

When Jesus was manifest as a man on earth he did not know the day when He would come again to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious nations. However, now that the Lord is seated at the right hand of the Father in glory, He does know for He is not limited by an earthly body.

 

[Marilyn C]

There are many that claim they are accurate, but yet as you pointed out that there is no exact to things concerning the return of Christ other then the signs He gave us to watch for, especially Matthew 24:29-31. Now is the time to be prepared to be caught up to meet Him in the air. 1Thessalonians 4:13-18

Hi FHG,

When the Father sends Jesus to gather His Body it will be when He has brought us to the -

`unity of the Faith, and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.` (Eph. 4: 13)

`...exhorting (encouraging and warning) one another and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

So glad you are also looking for the Lord`s coming.

 

[Elijah7777]

Hi FHG,

When Jesus was manifest as a man on earth he did not know the day when He would come again to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious nations. However, now that the Lord is seated at the right hand of the Father in glory, He does know for He is not limited by an earthly body.

I do not understand how we do not know. Jesus came 4,000 years after Adam and Eve. The church age is 2,000 years and the Kingdom age is 1,000 years. Even Moses tells us a day is 1,000 years. It took God 7,000 years to build the world at the time of Adam and Eve. Now redemption and restoration is taking 7,000 years.

 

[Marilyn C]

I do not understand how we do not know. Jesus came 4,000 years after Adam and Eve. The church age is 2,000 years and the Kingdom age is 1,000 years. Even Moses tells us a day is 1,000 years. It took God 7,000 years to build the world at the time of Adam and Eve. Now redemption and restoration is taking 7,000 years.

Hi Elijah,

Actually God`s word gives us plenty to know the Appointed time of the Rapture. I won't get this thread off topic but will start another and we can discuss there if you like.

 

[Elijah7777]

the Appointed time

The question was: When would the temple be tore down. The answer was that He did not know. Today we know that this took place in 70 AD. He gave them instructions on what they should do when they see these things happen.

2“Do you see all these things?” He replied. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”