Jehovah Lord a word study

Cooper · May 21, 2023

Especially welcome: are those from a Jewish background, and of course wondering and Free
Beginning first with Easton dictionary and commentary, for no particular reason except it is comprehensive.

LORD
There are various Hebrew and Greek words so rendered.

(1.) Heb. Jehovah, has been rendered in the English Bible Lord, printed in small capitals. This is the proper name of the God of the Hebrews. The form “Jehovah” is retained only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, both in the Authorized and the Revised Version.

(2.) Heb. 'adon, means one possessed of absolute control. It denotes a master, as of slaves (Gen_24:14, Gen_24:27), or a ruler of his subjects (Gen_45:8), or a husband, as lord of his wife (Gen_18:12).The old plural form of this Hebrew word is 'adonai. From a superstitious reverence for the name “Jehovah,” the Jews, in reading their Scriptures, whenever that name occurred, always pronounced it 'Adonai.

(3.) Greek kurios, a supreme master, etc. In the LXX. this is invariably used for “Jehovah” and “'Adonai.”

(4.) Heb. ba'al, a master, as having domination. This word is applied to human relations, as that of husband, to persons skilled in some art or profession, and to heathen deities. “The men of Shechem,” literally “the baals of Shechem” (Jdg_9:2, Jdg_9:3). These were the Israelite inhabitants who had reduced the Canaanites to a condition of vassalage (Jos_16:10; Jos_17:13).

(5.) Heb. seren, applied exclusively to the “lords of the Philistines” (Jdg_3:3). The LXX. render it by satrapies. At this period the Philistines were not, as at a later period (1Sa_21:10), under a kingly government. (See Jos_13:3; 1Sa_6:18.) There were five such lordships, viz., Gath, Ashdod, Gaza, Ashkelon, and Ekron.

JEHOVAH
The special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews (Exo_6:2, Exo_6:3). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, “Adonai” (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Lev_24:16. The meaning of the word appears from Exo_3:14 to be “the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God,” the “I am that I am,” a covenant-keeping God. (Compare Mal_3:6; Hos_12:5; Rev_1:4, Rev_1:8.)

The Hebrew name “Jehovah” is generally translated in the Authorized Version (and the Revised Version has not departed from this rule) by the word LORD printed in small capitals, to distinguish it from the rendering of the Hebrew Adonai and the Greek Kurios, which are also rendered Lord, but printed in the usual type. The Hebrew word is translated “Jehovah” only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, and in the compound names mentioned below.

It is worthy of notice that this name is never used in the LXX., the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Apocrypha, or in the New Testament. It is found, however, on the “Moabite stone” (q.v.), and consequently it must have been in the days of Mesba so commonly pronounced by the Hebrews as to be familiar to their heathen neighbours.

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FAUSSET DICITIONARY AND COMMENTARY

LORD
(See JEHOVAH.) In small letters and with initial capital "Lord" represents Adonai in KJV of Old Testament. In capitals "LORD" represents Jehovah, except Exo_23:17. The "LORD God", Adonai Jehovah, where it ought to be "the Lord Jehovah," and Exo_34:23. "GOD" in capitals also represents Jehovah (Gen_15:2, 'Adonay Yahweh). "God" in small letters, with initial capital, represents 'Elohiym. (See GOD.)

JEHOVAH
Jahaveh or Yahaveh is probahly the correct form (the vowel pointing in Jehovah is derived from A-d-o-n-ay) from the substantive verb haawah (found only six times in the Bible; obsolete in Moses' time; retained in Chaldee and Syriac from a time anterior to the division of the Semitic languages), for the more modern haayah, to be; a proof of the great antiquity of the name: "I AM THAT I AM" is the key of the name (Exo_3:14), expressing unchanging Being. The name was old and known long before; it appears compounded in Jo-chebed and Mor-iah, and simply in Genesis 2 and afterward. But its significance in relation to God's people was new, and now first becoming experimentally known. (See GENESIS; GOD; EXODUS.)

Exo_6:2-3; "I am JEHOVAH, and I appeared unto Abraham,... by the name of God Almighty (El-Shaddai), but by My name JEHOVAH was I not known": its full and precious import is only now about to be revealed. To the patriarchs He was known, when giving the promises, as GOD, Almighty to fulfill them (Gen_17:1); to Moses as Jehovah unchangeably faithful (Mal_3:6) in keeping them; compare Heb_13:8, which identifies Jesus with Jehovah. Elohim can do all that He wills; Yahweh will do all that He has promised. Elohim (the plural expressing the fullness of God's powers) is appropriate to creation (Genesis 1 - 2:3); JEHOVAH ELOHIM to paradise and to the covenant of grace at the fall; the combination identifies the Jehovah of the moral government with the Elohim of creation.

If JEHOVAH had been a name of more recent introduction, the whole nation would never have accepted it with such universal reverence. Elohim appears in the trial of Abraham's faith (Genesis 22); Jehovah, in its triumph. The last 19 chapters of Genesis, from Jacob's meeting the angels and Esau, have Elohim alone (except in the history of Judah and Pharez, Genesis 38; and Joseph's first entrance into Egypt, Genesis 39; and Jacob's dying exclamation, Gen_49:18; the beginning and close of the long period of sorrow and patient waiting) to prepare by contrast for the fuller revelation to Moses, when Jehovah is made known in its full and experimental preciousness. "To be made known" (Exo_6:3) means to be manifested in act (Psa_9:17; Psa_48:3-6), making good in fact all that was implied in the name (Eze_20:9) (nodatiy).

The name was not new to Israel, for it occurs before Exo_6:3 in Exo_3:16; Exo_4:1. ELOHIM, from aalah "to be strong" (Furst), rather than from Arabic aliha, "astonishment", alaha, "worship" (Hengstenberg), the Deity, expresses His eternal power and Godhead manifested in nature, commanding our reverence; JEHOVAH the Personal God in covenant with His people, manifesting boundless mercy, righteousness, and faithfulness to His word. So "Immanuel" is used not of the mere appellation, but of His proving in fact to be what the name means (Isa_7:14). The "I AM" (Exo_3:14) is to be filled up thus: I am to My people all whatever they want. Prayer is to supply the ellipsis, pleading God's covenanted promises: light, life, peace, salvation, glory, their exceeding great reward, etc. I am all that My word declares, and their threefold nature, body, soul, and spirit, requires. I am always all this to them (Joh_8:58). "Before Abraham began, to be (Greek) I am" (Mat_28:20).

The Jews by a misunderstanding of Lev_24:16 ("utters distinctly" instead of "blasphemeth") fear to use the name, saying instead "the name," "the four lettered name," "the great and terrible name." So Septuagint, Vulgate, and even KJV (except in four places "Jehovah": Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4; Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18) has "THE LORD," which in CAPITALS represents JEHOVAH, in small letters Adonai. Maimonides restricts its use to the priests' blessings and to the sanctuary; others to the high priest on the day of atonement, when entering the holy of holies. The Samaritans pronounced the name Yabe (Theodoret); found also in Epiphanius; Yahu in such names as Obadiah (Obad-yahu).

So that Jahveh (or Yahveh or Yahweh) seems the correct pronunciation. The Hebrew said the Elohim, in opposition to false gods; but never the Jehovah, for Jehovah means the true God only. Again, My God, Elohay, but not My Jehovah, for Jehovah by itself means this covenant relation to one. Again, the Elohim of Israel; but not the Jehovah of Israel, for there is no other Jehovah. Again, the living Elohim, but not the living Jehovah; for Jehovah means this without the epithet. Jehovah is in Old Testament the God of redemption. The correlative of Elohim is man, of Jehovah redeemed man. Elohim is God in nature, Jehovah God in grace (Exo_34:6-7).

Elohim is the God of providence; Jehovah is the God of promise and prophecy; hence, the prophets' formula is, "thus saith Jehovah," not Elohim. Elohim is wider in meaning, embracing the representatives of Deity, angels and human judges and rulers (Psa_82:6; Joh_10:34-35). Jehovah is deeper, the incommunicable name. The more frequent use of the name Jehovah from Samuel's time is due to the religious revival then inaugurated, and to the commencement of the regular school of prophets. In the first four verses of the Bhagavat God says to Brahma, "I was at first ... afterward I AM THAT WHICH IS, and He who must remain am I." (Sir W. Jones).
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JLB · May 21, 2023

Cooper said:
Especially welcome: are those from a Jewish background, and of course wondering and Free
Beginning first with Easton dictionary and commentary, for no particular reason except it is comprehensive.

LORD
There are various Hebrew and Greek words so rendered.

(1.) Heb. Jehovah, has been rendered in the English Bible Lord, printed in small capitals. This is the proper name of the God of the Hebrews. The form “Jehovah” is retained only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, both in the Authorized and the Revised Version.

(2.) Heb. 'adon, means one possessed of absolute control. It denotes a master, as of slaves (Gen_24:14, Gen_24:27), or a ruler of his subjects (Gen_45:8), or a husband, as lord of his wife (Gen_18:12).The old plural form of this Hebrew word is 'adonai. From a superstitious reverence for the name “Jehovah,” the Jews, in reading their Scriptures, whenever that name occurred, always pronounced it 'Adonai.

(3.) Greek kurios, a supreme master, etc. In the LXX. this is invariably used for “Jehovah” and “'Adonai.”

(4.) Heb. ba'al, a master, as having domination. This word is applied to human relations, as that of husband, to persons skilled in some art or profession, and to heathen deities. “The men of Shechem,” literally “the baals of Shechem” (Jdg_9:2, Jdg_9:3). These were the Israelite inhabitants who had reduced the Canaanites to a condition of vassalage (Jos_16:10; Jos_17:13).

(5.) Heb. seren, applied exclusively to the “lords of the Philistines” (Jdg_3:3). The LXX. render it by satrapies. At this period the Philistines were not, as at a later period (1Sa_21:10), under a kingly government. (See Jos_13:3; 1Sa_6:18.) There were five such lordships, viz., Gath, Ashdod, Gaza, Ashkelon, and Ekron.

JEHOVAH
The special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews (Exo_6:2, Exo_6:3). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, “Adonai” (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Lev_24:16. The meaning of the word appears from Exo_3:14 to be “the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God,” the “I am that I am,” a covenant-keeping God. (Compare Mal_3:6; Hos_12:5; Rev_1:4, Rev_1:8.)

The Hebrew name “Jehovah” is generally translated in the Authorized Version (and the Revised Version has not departed from this rule) by the word LORD printed in small capitals, to distinguish it from the rendering of the Hebrew Adonai and the Greek Kurios, which are also rendered Lord, but printed in the usual type. The Hebrew word is translated “Jehovah” only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, and in the compound names mentioned below.

It is worthy of notice that this name is never used in the LXX., the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Apocrypha, or in the New Testament. It is found, however, on the “Moabite stone” (q.v.), and consequently it must have been in the days of Mesba so commonly pronounced by the Hebrews as to be familiar to their heathen neighbours.

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YHWH - The four letters is what the original Hebrew says.

Men added vowels to the four letters of the original 4 letters.

YAH = Lord in the shortened form, such as found in conjunction words (two words together) such as Halleluyah.

Halleluyah = Praise the LORD

No “J” in Hebrew.

Hallelujah (/ˌhæləˈluːjə/ HAL-ə-LOO-yə; Hebrew: הַלְלוּ־יָהּ‎, romanized: hallū-Yāh, lit. 'praise Yah') is an interjection from the Hebrew language, used as an expression of gratitude to God.[1][2] The term is used 24 times in the Hebrew Bible (in the book of Psalms), twice in deuterocanonical books, and four times in the Christian Book of Revelation.[3]

Hallelujahwritten in Modern Hebrew
The phrase is used in Judaism as part of the Hallel prayers, and in Christian prayer,[3] where since the earliest times[4] it is used in various ways in liturgies,[5] especially those of the Catholic Church, the Lutheran Churches and the Eastern Orthodox Church,[6][7] the three of which use the Latin form alleluia which is based on the alternative Greek transliteration.[1]

hôvâh Strong’s H1943

ruin, disaster

Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
הֹוָה hôvâh, ho-vaw'; another form for H1942; ruin:—mischief.

Cooper · May 21, 2023

Thanks, this was sparked off by the insistence of others that the word LORD always meant God. However, Aaron called the golden calf, he made LORD. Do you have any thoughts on that?

For example:-

Baal - New World Encyclopedia

www.newworldencyclopedia.org

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Free · May 21, 2023

Cooper said:
Especially welcome: are those from a Jewish background, and of course wondering and Free
Beginning first with Easton dictionary and commentary, for no particular reason except it is comprehensive.

LORD
There are various Hebrew and Greek words so rendered.

(1.) Heb. Jehovah, has been rendered in the English Bible Lord, printed in small capitals. This is the proper name of the God of the Hebrews. The form “Jehovah” is retained only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, both in the Authorized and the Revised Version.

(2.) Heb. 'adon, means one possessed of absolute control. It denotes a master, as of slaves (Gen_24:14, Gen_24:27), or a ruler of his subjects (Gen_45:8), or a husband, as lord of his wife (Gen_18:12).The old plural form of this Hebrew word is 'adonai. From a superstitious reverence for the name “Jehovah,” the Jews, in reading their Scriptures, whenever that name occurred, always pronounced it 'Adonai.

(3.) Greek kurios, a supreme master, etc. In the LXX. this is invariably used for “Jehovah” and “'Adonai.”

(4.) Heb. ba'al, a master, as having domination. This word is applied to human relations, as that of husband, to persons skilled in some art or profession, and to heathen deities. “The men of Shechem,” literally “the baals of Shechem” (Jdg_9:2, Jdg_9:3). These were the Israelite inhabitants who had reduced the Canaanites to a condition of vassalage (Jos_16:10; Jos_17:13).

(5.) Heb. seren, applied exclusively to the “lords of the Philistines” (Jdg_3:3). The LXX. render it by satrapies. At this period the Philistines were not, as at a later period (1Sa_21:10), under a kingly government. (See Jos_13:3; 1Sa_6:18.) There were five such lordships, viz., Gath, Ashdod, Gaza, Ashkelon, and Ekron.

JEHOVAH
The special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews (Exo_6:2, Exo_6:3). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, “Adonai” (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Lev_24:16. The meaning of the word appears from Exo_3:14 to be “the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God,” the “I am that I am,” a covenant-keeping God. (Compare Mal_3:6; Hos_12:5; Rev_1:4, Rev_1:8.)

The Hebrew name “Jehovah” is generally translated in the Authorized Version (and the Revised Version has not departed from this rule) by the word LORD printed in small capitals, to distinguish it from the rendering of the Hebrew Adonai and the Greek Kurios, which are also rendered Lord, but printed in the usual type. The Hebrew word is translated “Jehovah” only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, and in the compound names mentioned below.

It is worthy of notice that this name is never used in the LXX., the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Apocrypha, or in the New Testament. It is found, however, on the “Moabite stone” (q.v.), and consequently it must have been in the days of Mesba so commonly pronounced by the Hebrews as to be familiar to their heathen neighbours.

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FAUSSET DICITIONARY AND COMMENTARY

LORD
(See JEHOVAH.) In small letters and with initial capital "Lord" represents Adonai in KJV of Old Testament. In capitals "LORD" represents Jehovah, except Exo_23:17. The "LORD God", Adonai Jehovah, where it ought to be "the Lord Jehovah," and Exo_34:23. "GOD" in capitals also represents Jehovah (Gen_15:2, 'Adonay Yahweh). "God" in small letters, with initial capital, represents 'Elohiym. (See GOD.)

JEHOVAH
Jahaveh or Yahaveh is probahly the correct form (the vowel pointing in Jehovah is derived from A-d-o-n-ay) from the substantive verb haawah (found only six times in the Bible; obsolete in Moses' time; retained in Chaldee and Syriac from a time anterior to the division of the Semitic languages), for the more modern haayah, to be; a proof of the great antiquity of the name: "I AM THAT I AM" is the key of the name (Exo_3:14), expressing unchanging Being. The name was old and known long before; it appears compounded in Jo-chebed and Mor-iah, and simply in Genesis 2 and afterward. But its significance in relation to God's people was new, and now first becoming experimentally known. (See GENESIS; GOD; EXODUS.)

Exo_6:2-3; "I am JEHOVAH, and I appeared unto Abraham,... by the name of God Almighty (El-Shaddai), but by My name JEHOVAH was I not known": its full and precious import is only now about to be revealed. To the patriarchs He was known, when giving the promises, as GOD, Almighty to fulfill them (Gen_17:1); to Moses as Jehovah unchangeably faithful (Mal_3:6) in keeping them; compare Heb_13:8, which identifies Jesus with Jehovah. Elohim can do all that He wills; Yahweh will do all that He has promised. Elohim (the plural expressing the fullness of God's powers) is appropriate to creation (Genesis 1 - 2:3); JEHOVAH ELOHIM to paradise and to the covenant of grace at the fall; the combination identifies the Jehovah of the moral government with the Elohim of creation.

If JEHOVAH had been a name of more recent introduction, the whole nation would never have accepted it with such universal reverence. Elohim appears in the trial of Abraham's faith (Genesis 22); Jehovah, in its triumph. The last 19 chapters of Genesis, from Jacob's meeting the angels and Esau, have Elohim alone (except in the history of Judah and Pharez, Genesis 38; and Joseph's first entrance into Egypt, Genesis 39; and Jacob's dying exclamation, Gen_49:18; the beginning and close of the long period of sorrow and patient waiting) to prepare by contrast for the fuller revelation to Moses, when Jehovah is made known in its full and experimental preciousness. "To be made known" (Exo_6:3) means to be manifested in act (Psa_9:17; Psa_48:3-6), making good in fact all that was implied in the name (Eze_20:9) (nodatiy).

The name was not new to Israel, for it occurs before Exo_6:3 in Exo_3:16; Exo_4:1. ELOHIM, from aalah "to be strong" (Furst), rather than from Arabic aliha, "astonishment", alaha, "worship" (Hengstenberg), the Deity, expresses His eternal power and Godhead manifested in nature, commanding our reverence; JEHOVAH the Personal God in covenant with His people, manifesting boundless mercy, righteousness, and faithfulness to His word. So "Immanuel" is used not of the mere appellation, but of His proving in fact to be what the name means (Isa_7:14). The "I AM" (Exo_3:14) is to be filled up thus: I am to My people all whatever they want. Prayer is to supply the ellipsis, pleading God's covenanted promises: light, life, peace, salvation, glory, their exceeding great reward, etc. I am all that My word declares, and their threefold nature, body, soul, and spirit, requires. I am always all this to them (Joh_8:58). "Before Abraham began, to be (Greek) I am" (Mat_28:20).

The Jews by a misunderstanding of Lev_24:16 ("utters distinctly" instead of "blasphemeth") fear to use the name, saying instead "the name," "the four lettered name," "the great and terrible name." So Septuagint, Vulgate, and even KJV (except in four places "Jehovah": Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4; Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18) has "THE LORD," which in CAPITALS represents JEHOVAH, in small letters Adonai. Maimonides restricts its use to the priests' blessings and to the sanctuary; others to the high priest on the day of atonement, when entering the holy of holies. The Samaritans pronounced the name Yabe (Theodoret); found also in Epiphanius; Yahu in such names as Obadiah (Obad-yahu).

So that Jahveh (or Yahveh or Yahweh) seems the correct pronunciation. The Hebrew said the Elohim, in opposition to false gods; but never the Jehovah, for Jehovah means the true God only. Again, My God, Elohay, but not My Jehovah, for Jehovah by itself means this covenant relation to one. Again, the Elohim of Israel; but not the Jehovah of Israel, for there is no other Jehovah. Again, the living Elohim, but not the living Jehovah; for Jehovah means this without the epithet. Jehovah is in Old Testament the God of redemption. The correlative of Elohim is man, of Jehovah redeemed man. Elohim is God in nature, Jehovah God in grace (Exo_34:6-7).
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Okay. What are you trying to show with this?

Cooper said:
Thanks, this was sparked off by the insistence of others that the word LORD always meant God. However, Aaron called the golden calf, he made LORD. Do you have any thoughts on that?

It does always refer to the one true God--he said YHWH is his name. I have shown this to be the case.

Cooper · May 21, 2023

THIS LORD IS NOT MY LORD

THIS LORD IS AN IDOL
Exo 32:5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
Exo 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
Exo 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

AN EARTHLY LORD.
Exo 25:1-11 KJV
(1) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
(2) Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering: of every man that giveth it willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering.
(3) And this is the offering which ye shall take of them; gold, and silver, and brass,
(4) And blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen, and goats' hair,
(5) And rams' skins dyed red, and badgers' skins, and shittim wood,
(6) Oil for the light, spices for anointing oil, and for sweet incense,
(7) Onyx stones, and stones to be set in the ephod, and in the breastplate.
(8) And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
(9) According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
(10) And they shall make an ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof.
(11) And thou shalt overlay it with pure gold, within and without shalt thou overlay it, and shalt make upon it a crown of gold round about. ……

THE LORD MEETS MOSES FROM BETWEEN TWO CHERUBIM
(22) And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

THE LORD WANTS MORE EARTHLY GOODS
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Tell the sons of Israel to raise a contribution for Me; from every man whose heart moves him you shall raise My contribution. And this is the contribution which you are to raise from them: gold, silver and bronze, blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goat hair, rams’ skins dyed red, porpoise skins, acacia wood, oil for lighting, spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense, onyx stones and setting stones and setting stones, for the ephod and for the breastpiece. And let them construct a sanctuary for Me, that I may dwell among them” (Exodus 25:1-8).

STILL MORE THINGS OF EARTH GIVEN TO THE LORD
Take from among you a contribution to the LORD; whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as the LORD’S contribution: gold, silver, and bronze, and blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goats’ hair, and rams’ skins dyed red, and porpoise skins, and acacia wood, and oil for lighting, and spices for the anointing oil, and for the fragrant incense, and onyx stones and setting stones for the ephod and for the breastpiece. And let every skillful man among you come, and make all that the LORD has commanded’” (Exodus 35:1-10).

MORE EARTHLY WEALTH TO THE LORD
Num 31:49 And they said unto Moses, Thy servants have taken the sum of the men of war which are under our charge, and there lacketh not one man of us.
Num 31:50 We have therefore brought an oblation for the LORD, what every man hath gotten, of jewels of gold, chains, and bracelets, rings, earrings, and tablets, to make an atonement for our souls before the LORD.
Num 31:51 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of them, even all wrought jewels.
Num 31:52 And all the gold of the offering that they offered up to the LORD, of the captains of thousands, and of the captains of hundreds, was sixteen thousand seven hundred and fifty shekels.
Num 31:53 (For the men of war had taken spoil, every man for himself.)
Num 31:54 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of the captains of thousands and of hundreds, and brought it into the tabernacle of the congregation, for a memorial for the children of Israel before the LORD.
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Free · May 21, 2023

Cooper said:
THIS LORD IS NOT MY LORD

THIS LORD IS AN IDOL
Exo 32:5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
Exo 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
Exo 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

AN EARTHLY LORD.
Exo 25:1-11 KJV
(1) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
(2) Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering: of every man that giveth it willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering.
(3) And this is the offering which ye shall take of them; gold, and silver, and brass,
(4) And blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen, and goats' hair,
(5) And rams' skins dyed red, and badgers' skins, and shittim wood,
(6) Oil for the light, spices for anointing oil, and for sweet incense,
(7) Onyx stones, and stones to be set in the ephod, and in the breastplate.
(8) And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
(9) According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
(10) And they shall make an ark of shittim wood: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof.
(11) And thou shalt overlay it with pure gold, within and without shalt thou overlay it, and shalt make upon it a crown of gold round about. ……

THE LORD MEETS MOSES FROM BETWEEN TWO CHERUBIM
(22) And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

THE LORD WANTS MORE EARTHLY GOODS
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Tell the sons of Israel to raise a contribution for Me; from every man whose heart moves him you shall raise My contribution. And this is the contribution which you are to raise from them: gold, silver and bronze, blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goat hair, rams’ skins dyed red, porpoise skins, acacia wood, oil for lighting, spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense, onyx stones and setting stones and setting stones, for the ephod and for the breastpiece. And let them construct a sanctuary for Me, that I may dwell among them” (Exodus 25:1-8).

STILL MORE THINGS OF EARTH GIVEN TO THE LORD
Take from among you a contribution to the LORD; whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as the LORD’S contribution: gold, silver, and bronze, and blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goats’ hair, and rams’ skins dyed red, and porpoise skins, and acacia wood, and oil for lighting, and spices for the anointing oil, and for the fragrant incense, and onyx stones and setting stones for the ephod and for the breastpiece. And let every skillful man among you come, and make all that the LORD has commanded’” (Exodus 35:1-10).

MORE EARTHLY WEALTH TO THE LORD
Num 31:49 And they said unto Moses, Thy servants have taken the sum of the men of war which are under our charge, and there lacketh not one man of us.
Num 31:50 We have therefore brought an oblation for the LORD, what every man hath gotten, of jewels of gold, chains, and bracelets, rings, earrings, and tablets, to make an atonement for our souls before the LORD.
Num 31:51 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of them, even all wrought jewels.
Num 31:52 And all the gold of the offering that they offered up to the LORD, of the captains of thousands, and of the captains of hundreds, was sixteen thousand seven hundred and fifty shekels.
Num 31:53 (For the men of war had taken spoil, every man for himself.)
Num 31:54 And Moses and Eleazar the priest took the gold of the captains of thousands and of hundreds, and brought it into the tabernacle of the congregation, for a memorial for the children of Israel before the LORD.
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Those are all speaking of the same LORD, YHWH, IAM--the one true God. There is simply no way around it.

Cooper · May 21, 2023

Free said:
Those are all speaking of the same LORD, YHWH, IAM--the one true God. There is simply no way around it.

Far from being our heavenly Father, they are either graven images (the golden calf), or human beings. Certainly not God in heaven. What does our LORD want with the things of this world, like gold and silver?

The Israelites believed in an earthly kingdom, so they had an earthly Lord.

The LORD of Moses would have been someone like Melchizedek.
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Free · May 21, 2023

Cooper said:
Far from being our heavenly Father, they are either graven images (the golden calf), or human beings. Certainly not God in heaven.

YHWH is, from Gen 2 to Mal 4, the one true God in every instance. Context is important, which I've pointed out before, but you still refuse to take it into account for some reason.

Cooper said:
What does our LORD want with the things of this world, like gold and silver?

Does it actually matter? He wanted the tabernacle adorned with all manner of craftsmanship and beauty. Just because you think God wouldn't want those things doesn't mean that he doesn't. And, in fact, he does want those things, as you pointed out. Be careful of making God in your own image.

Cooper said:
The Israelites believe in an earthly kingdom.

Which is relevant to YHWH being the one true God, how?

Cooper said:
The LORD of Moses would have been someone like Melchizedek.
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Again, be careful of making God in your own image.

Cooper · May 21, 2023

Free said:
YHWH is, from Gen 2 to Mal 4, the one true God in every instance. Context is important, which I've pointed out before, but you still refuse to take it into account for some reason.

Does it actually matter? He wanted the tabernacle adorned with all manner of craftsmanship and beauty. Just because you think God wouldn't want those things doesn't mean that he doesn't. And, in fact, he does want those things, as you pointed out. Be careful of making God in your own image.

Which is relevant to YHWH being the one true God, how?

Again, be careful of making God in your own image.

I am flabbergasted.
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Free · May 21, 2023

Cooper said:
I am flabbergasted.
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You're not alone.

Cooper · May 22, 2023

So, thinking about this, it occurs to me that Moses in the Ten Commandments was told by the LORD not to make graven images and not to kill. Remember, God is unchanging. A few years later, the unchanging LORD, or was this another LORD, commanded Moses to make two graven images from where the Lord would make judgement. Not only that, even though He had previously said not to kill, he later told Moses to go to war, take women and children prisoners, kill those who had known a man, and keep the rest for whatever pleased them. You have two LORDS,
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Highway54 · May 22, 2023

Cooper said:
Especially welcome: are those from a Jewish background, and of course wondering and Free
Beginning first with Easton dictionary and commentary, for no particular reason except it is comprehensive.

LORD
There are various Hebrew and Greek words so rendered.

(1.) Heb. Jehovah, has been rendered in the English Bible Lord, printed in small capitals. This is the proper name of the God of the Hebrews. The form “Jehovah” is retained only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, both in the Authorized and the Revised Version.

(2.) Heb. 'adon, means one possessed of absolute control. It denotes a master, as of slaves (Gen_24:14, Gen_24:27), or a ruler of his subjects (Gen_45:8), or a husband, as lord of his wife (Gen_18:12).The old plural form of this Hebrew word is 'adonai. From a superstitious reverence for the name “Jehovah,” the Jews, in reading their Scriptures, whenever that name occurred, always pronounced it 'Adonai.

(3.) Greek kurios, a supreme master, etc. In the LXX. this is invariably used for “Jehovah” and “'Adonai.”

(4.) Heb. ba'al, a master, as having domination. This word is applied to human relations, as that of husband, to persons skilled in some art or profession, and to heathen deities. “The men of Shechem,” literally “the baals of Shechem” (Jdg_9:2, Jdg_9:3). These were the Israelite inhabitants who had reduced the Canaanites to a condition of vassalage (Jos_16:10; Jos_17:13).

(5.) Heb. seren, applied exclusively to the “lords of the Philistines” (Jdg_3:3). The LXX. render it by satrapies. At this period the Philistines were not, as at a later period (1Sa_21:10), under a kingly government. (See Jos_13:3; 1Sa_6:18.) There were five such lordships, viz., Gath, Ashdod, Gaza, Ashkelon, and Ekron.

JEHOVAH
The special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord) by which God revealed himself to the ancient Hebrews (Exo_6:2, Exo_6:3). This name, the Tetragrammaton of the Greeks, was held by the later Jews to be so sacred that it was never pronounced except by the high priest on the great Day of Atonement, when he entered into the most holy place. Whenever this name occurred in the sacred books they pronounced it, as they still do, “Adonai” (i.e., Lord), thus using another word in its stead. The Massorets gave to it the vowel-points appropriate to this word. This Jewish practice was founded on a false interpretation of Lev_24:16. The meaning of the word appears from Exo_3:14 to be “the unchanging, eternal, self-existent God,” the “I am that I am,” a covenant-keeping God. (Compare Mal_3:6; Hos_12:5; Rev_1:4, Rev_1:8.)

The Hebrew name “Jehovah” is generally translated in the Authorized Version (and the Revised Version has not departed from this rule) by the word LORD printed in small capitals, to distinguish it from the rendering of the Hebrew Adonai and the Greek Kurios, which are also rendered Lord, but printed in the usual type. The Hebrew word is translated “Jehovah” only in Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18; Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4, and in the compound names mentioned below.

It is worthy of notice that this name is never used in the LXX., the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Apocrypha, or in the New Testament. It is found, however, on the “Moabite stone” (q.v.), and consequently it must have been in the days of Mesba so commonly pronounced by the Hebrews as to be familiar to their heathen neighbours.

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FAUSSET DICITIONARY AND COMMENTARY

LORD
(See JEHOVAH.) In small letters and with initial capital "Lord" represents Adonai in KJV of Old Testament. In capitals "LORD" represents Jehovah, except Exo_23:17. The "LORD God", Adonai Jehovah, where it ought to be "the Lord Jehovah," and Exo_34:23. "GOD" in capitals also represents Jehovah (Gen_15:2, 'Adonay Yahweh). "God" in small letters, with initial capital, represents 'Elohiym. (See GOD.)

JEHOVAH
Jahaveh or Yahaveh is probahly the correct form (the vowel pointing in Jehovah is derived from A-d-o-n-ay) from the substantive verb haawah (found only six times in the Bible; obsolete in Moses' time; retained in Chaldee and Syriac from a time anterior to the division of the Semitic languages), for the more modern haayah, to be; a proof of the great antiquity of the name: "I AM THAT I AM" is the key of the name (Exo_3:14), expressing unchanging Being. The name was old and known long before; it appears compounded in Jo-chebed and Mor-iah, and simply in Genesis 2 and afterward. But its significance in relation to God's people was new, and now first becoming experimentally known. (See GENESIS; GOD; EXODUS.)

Exo_6:2-3; "I am JEHOVAH, and I appeared unto Abraham,... by the name of God Almighty (El-Shaddai), but by My name JEHOVAH was I not known": its full and precious import is only now about to be revealed. To the patriarchs He was known, when giving the promises, as GOD, Almighty to fulfill them (Gen_17:1); to Moses as Jehovah unchangeably faithful (Mal_3:6) in keeping them; compare Heb_13:8, which identifies Jesus with Jehovah. Elohim can do all that He wills; Yahweh will do all that He has promised. Elohim (the plural expressing the fullness of God's powers) is appropriate to creation (Genesis 1 - 2:3); JEHOVAH ELOHIM to paradise and to the covenant of grace at the fall; the combination identifies the Jehovah of the moral government with the Elohim of creation.

If JEHOVAH had been a name of more recent introduction, the whole nation would never have accepted it with such universal reverence. Elohim appears in the trial of Abraham's faith (Genesis 22); Jehovah, in its triumph. The last 19 chapters of Genesis, from Jacob's meeting the angels and Esau, have Elohim alone (except in the history of Judah and Pharez, Genesis 38; and Joseph's first entrance into Egypt, Genesis 39; and Jacob's dying exclamation, Gen_49:18; the beginning and close of the long period of sorrow and patient waiting) to prepare by contrast for the fuller revelation to Moses, when Jehovah is made known in its full and experimental preciousness. "To be made known" (Exo_6:3) means to be manifested in act (Psa_9:17; Psa_48:3-6), making good in fact all that was implied in the name (Eze_20:9) (nodatiy).

The name was not new to Israel, for it occurs before Exo_6:3 in Exo_3:16; Exo_4:1. ELOHIM, from aalah "to be strong" (Furst), rather than from Arabic aliha, "astonishment", alaha, "worship" (Hengstenberg), the Deity, expresses His eternal power and Godhead manifested in nature, commanding our reverence; JEHOVAH the Personal God in covenant with His people, manifesting boundless mercy, righteousness, and faithfulness to His word. So "Immanuel" is used not of the mere appellation, but of His proving in fact to be what the name means (Isa_7:14). The "I AM" (Exo_3:14) is to be filled up thus: I am to My people all whatever they want. Prayer is to supply the ellipsis, pleading God's covenanted promises: light, life, peace, salvation, glory, their exceeding great reward, etc. I am all that My word declares, and their threefold nature, body, soul, and spirit, requires. I am always all this to them (Joh_8:58). "Before Abraham began, to be (Greek) I am" (Mat_28:20).

The Jews by a misunderstanding of Lev_24:16 ("utters distinctly" instead of "blasphemeth") fear to use the name, saying instead "the name," "the four lettered name," "the great and terrible name." So Septuagint, Vulgate, and even KJV (except in four places "Jehovah": Isa_12:2; Isa_26:4; Exo_6:3; Psa_83:18) has "THE LORD," which in CAPITALS represents JEHOVAH, in small letters Adonai. Maimonides restricts its use to the priests' blessings and to the sanctuary; others to the high priest on the day of atonement, when entering the holy of holies. The Samaritans pronounced the name Yabe (Theodoret); found also in Epiphanius; Yahu in such names as Obadiah (Obad-yahu).

So that Jahveh (or Yahveh or Yahweh) seems the correct pronunciation. The Hebrew said the Elohim, in opposition to false gods; but never the Jehovah, for Jehovah means the true God only. Again, My God, Elohay, but not My Jehovah, for Jehovah by itself means this covenant relation to one. Again, the Elohim of Israel; but not the Jehovah of Israel, for there is no other Jehovah. Again, the living Elohim, but not the living Jehovah; for Jehovah means this without the epithet. Jehovah is in Old Testament the God of redemption. The correlative of Elohim is man, of Jehovah redeemed man. Elohim is God in nature, Jehovah God in grace (Exo_34:6-7).

Elohim is the God of providence; Jehovah is the God of promise and prophecy; hence, the prophets' formula is, "thus saith Jehovah," not Elohim. Elohim is wider in meaning, embracing the representatives of Deity, angels and human judges and rulers (Psa_82:6; Joh_10:34-35). Jehovah is deeper, the incommunicable name. The more frequent use of the name Jehovah from Samuel's time is due to the religious revival then inaugurated, and to the commencement of the regular school of prophets. In the first four verses of the Bhagavat God says to Brahma, "I was at first ... afterward I AM THAT WHICH IS, and He who must remain am I." (Sir W. Jones).
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So with all that, what is God's name to you sir?

Cooper · May 22, 2023

Highway54 said:
So with all that, what is God's name to you sir?

The I AM.

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Free · May 22, 2023

Cooper said:
So, thinking about this, it occurs to me that Moses in the Ten Commandments was told by the LORD not to make graven images and not to kill. Remember, God is unchanging. A few years later, the unchanging LORD, or was this another LORD, commanded Moses to make two graven images from where the Lord would make judgement. Not only that, even though He had previously said not to kill, he later told Moses to go to war, take women and children prisoners, kill those who had known a man, and keep the rest for whatever pleased them.

It's all about context.

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 “I am the LORD [YHWH] your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exo 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exo 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD [YHWH] your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exo 20:6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 “You shall not take the name of the LORD [YHWH] your God in vain, for the LORD [YHWH] will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD [YHWH] your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD [YHWH] made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD [YHWH] blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
Exo 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD [YHWH] your God is giving you.
Exo 20:13 “You shall not murder. (ESV)

The whole point of not making carved images in verse 4 is seen in verse 5--for the purpose of bowing down to them. It is not a command to never make any carved image. That is supported by the fact that God does tell them to make certain carved images for the building of the tabernacle.

The command to not "kill" is known to be better translated as "murder." Regardless, because God is God, and he does command the Israelites to kill other peoples as his judgement, it in no way means God is contradicting himself and actually supports the proper understanding of murder, not killing in general.

Cooper said:
You have two LORDS,
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Throughout the entire OT there is only one LORD, one YHWH, and that is the one true God. This is basic Christianity.

Cooper · May 22, 2023

Free said:
It's all about context.

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 “I am the LORD [YHWH] your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exo 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exo 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD [YHWH] your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exo 20:6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 “You shall not take the name of the LORD [YHWH] your God in vain, for the LORD [YHWH] will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD [YHWH] your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD [YHWH] made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD [YHWH] blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
Exo 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD [YHWH] your God is giving you.
Exo 20:13 “You shall not murder. (ESV)

The whole point of not making carved images in verse 4 is seen in verse 5--for the purpose of bowing down to them. It is not a command to never make any carved image. That is supported by the fact that God does tell them to make certain carved images for the building of the tabernacle.

The command to not "kill" is known to be better translated as "murder." Regardless, because God is God, and he does command the Israelites to kill other peoples as his judgement, it in no way means God is contradicting himself and actually supports the proper understanding of murder, not killing in general.

Throughout the entire OT there is only one LORD, one YHWH, and that is the one true God. This is basic Christianity.

Throughout his lifetime, Moses, a commander in the Egyptian army, made graven images, worshipped, obeyed, went to war, gave money to, killed innocent women and children, and sacrificed, something the giver of the commandments abhorred, and all this on the instruction of the opposer who he called LORD (YHWH).
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Free · May 22, 2023

Cooper said:
Throughout his lifetime, Moses, a commander in the Egyptian army, made graven images, worshipped, obeyed, went to war, gave money to, killed innocent women and children, and sacrificed, something the giver of the commandments abhorred, and all this on the instruction of the opposer who he called LORD (YHWH).
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Wow, you really do not seem to understand most of the context of the entire OT. This is such basic Bible knowledge that I don't understand how one could miss it.

There is one God throughout the entire Bible. In the OT he says he is I AM and YHWH, but is also known by many other names. These all refer to the one and only true God, the God of the Israelites; there is only one YHWH. God commanded sacrifice for sins, that is rather the whole significance of Jesus's sacrifice--the whole OT sacrificial system points to him and is the only reason it makes sense as a continuation of the same story.

Moses went to war and killed "innocent" women and children because the one true God commanded him to. The fact is, God treated people groups as a whole, and when their sin had reached its peak, they all were to be killed in judgement because none were innocent. The wages of sin is death, and that is just as true in the OT as in the NT. Sin is a cancer and not one person was to survive so as to let the sin of those nations survive. What happened when they didn't kill everyone but instead even intermarried? They were led astray, became exiled, and their nation was destroyed in judgement from God, as he said he would do if they didn't return to him.

Cooper · May 22, 2023

Free said:
Wow, you really do not seem to understand most of the context of the entire OT. This is such basic Bible knowledge that I don't understand how one could miss it.

There is one God throughout the entire Bible. In the OT he says he is I AM and YHWH, but is also known by many other names. These all refer to the one and only true God, the God of the Israelites; there is only one YHWH. God commanded sacrifice for sins, that is rather the whole significance of Jesus's sacrifice--the whole OT sacrificial system points to him and is the only reason it makes sense as a continuation of the same story.

Moses went to war and killed "innocent" women and children because the one true God commanded him to. The fact is, God treated people groups as a whole, and when their sin had reached its peak, they all were to be killed in judgement because none were innocent. The wages of sin is death, and that is just as true in the OT as in the NT. Sin is a cancer and not one person was to survive so as to let the sin of those nations survive. What happened when they didn't kill everyone but instead even intermarried? They were led astray, became exiled, and their nation was destroyed in judgement from God, as he said he would do if they didn't return to him.

Most people were wicked from Eden onwards, hence the flood, but they still continued in their disobedience and worshipped false gods, deserting the true God in whom there is no variableness of turning. The Old Testament prophets warned of the consequences, and to their credit, the Old Testament chroniclers recorded it. It cannot be denied, so do not try.
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Free · May 22, 2023

Cooper said:
Most people were wicked from Eden onwards, hence the flood, but they still continued in their disobedience and worshipped false gods, deserting the true God in whom there is no variableness of turning. The Old Testament prophets warned of the consequences, and to their credit, the Old Testament chroniclers recorded it. It cannot be denied, so do not try.
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I haven't denied anything. What you have said here agrees with what I stated. What absolutely cannot be denied, is that there is only one YHWH, one LORD, who is the one true God from the beginning to the end of the Bible.

What you are denying is that God punished those who were warned by the OT prophets of the consequences of sin. You can't have it both ways--arguing that God never changes and never ordered Moses to kill anyone, so it was another "LORD" that meted out punishment for sins. Your position is inconsistent.

JLB · May 22, 2023

Cooper said:
The I AM.
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Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
John 8:58-59

JLB

JLB · May 22, 2023

Free said:
These all refer to the one and only true God, the God of the Israelites; there is only one YHWH.

Amen. His name is Jesus.

JLB

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