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    Peniel, The Angel of the Lord. Only god born. Yahshua.

    I don't know anything about anyone named Peniel. You told me the other day that you were a Judeo Christian grafted into Israel or something like that well than there is a name that you might already be familliar with. "At that time Michael, the great commander, will stand up on behalf of the...
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    The Trinity

    Imagician wrote Who is this uncircumsied of heart magician who continually speaks blasphemies against the Son of the Most High calling Him a false god? God the Father of Love who you claim is your God does not believe His only born Son who was born from Him and is the "express...
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    the Woman and the Human clearer understanding of John1:1,2

    In the first garden was the woman and the woman was with The Human and human was the woman. the same was in the first garden with The Human In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with The God and God was the Word.The same was in the beginning with The God Jehovah's Witness's and all...
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    The Trinity

    Catholic Crusader wrote I think I understand what you're talking about. Your saying that a dog can give birth to another dog and there would be two dogs and the cat can give birth to another cat and and there are two cats but Almighty God doesn't have the power to do what he gave His...
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    The Trinity

    "...the glory which I had with thee before the world was."..." what is his name, and what is His Son's name, if thou canst tell?""Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;" John 17:5;Proverbs 30:4&8:30 Before all of creation and...
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    The Trinity

    by Free on Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:53 pm Hello Free. How are you doing today? I saw your discussion between yourself and Imagican that you were trying to prove that Christians believed in the trinity before 325 which is futile. Yes you showed where Ignatius clearly believed that Jesus was God...
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    The Trinity

    The Son of God was born from His Father in eternity before time and before creation. That's why God's only begotten Son is called God a few times in the scriptures because just like you've inhterited your parents human nature Jesus inherited His Father's God or Divine nature. If Jesus were...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    Dear sk0rpi0n, How are you doing? I very much resent the fact that you implied that I was a trinitarian just because I beleive the Bible that Ephesians 3:9,Hebrews 1:2 Ephesians 3:9 proves that Jesus is not God because if God created all things by Him then it must mean that Jesus is a seperate...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    XTruth wrote I haven’t been following this thread, so I might quote a Scripture that has already been covered. And I’m not picking on you Skorpion, your post just caught my eyes. The following are verses that require a Divine Trinity by the use of the plural personal pronouns...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    quote by Imagican Is it really beyond your understanding? I don't think so. You seem like a very smart guy and it's a very simple concept. It's called the rule of kinship. Rabits beget rabbits and their children are equal to them in nature. And humans beget humans and their children are...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    Yes the apostle John did refer to Jesus as the symbol of the Word but the apostle Paul called him the Wisdom. “…Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.â€Â†But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    Truly the Word was God but the Word was not "the God" who he was with. I'm seeing so much confusion on this John 17 post about John1:1,2 I think you will get a better understanding If you will please look at a greek interlinear bible at your local bookstore,library or even free online you...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    Imagican wrote: No, eternity doesn’t just have to do with the existence of man. Before we were created and our world, heaven and the rest of the universe and all the angels were already created. He’s just not the Creator of out planet but of everything. I believe time started...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    Thankyou so much for making this topic. I'd like to talk about the word true. According to Strong's the word "true" in greek is "ἀληθινÌ alÄ“thinos...b)it contrasts realities with their semblances" Paul says that the sanctuary that was on earth was a copy of the...
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    What am I supposed to make of John 17:3

    Just because Jesus is not "only true God" does not mean that he is a lesser god or a false god. He is equal with God and has the same divine nature as the Father because he's God's "only begotten Son" John 3:16 Jesus might not have believed in any trinity but he did know his identity and the...
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