666- The Mark of the Beast - Humanity's Ultimate Choice

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It seems to me that this is a wonderful place for new Christians to learn that the soapbox sensationalism promoted by many is not the only way to understand eschatology.:waving

The '666' as explained via the OP is at best anticipating a shallow parody of the very real choice all humanity has been faced with regardless of their era. As such, the mystery of '666' is not dependent upon any iteration of technology beyond the language and culture of the time in which it was given. This conflict, however, is brought to a sharp focus within the context of a particular time and place, which the scriptures reveal to those that hath understanding.
 
I am once again chuckling. Okay, if you two wish to continue to argue, go for it. I think I'll spend my time trying to uplift Christians here who can use my support.

I am secure in what I believe. There is no sin in that. I still learn daily, and indeed search out the Scriptures on everything I read here. While I don't know y'all's physical ages, I have 44 years in Christ, among other clarifiers. This includes professional training, for what it's worth. :shrug Yes, I have more than my share of learning I think sometimes. :lol

There's a limit for me where discourse becomes foolish talking. King James Bible Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. Ephesians 5:4

I have reached that limit I think. Time is too short for so much of this for me, and I'm choosing to give support otherwise. :)

I thought I referenced (if not, do forgive me) the parable of the fig tree, which throughout the Bible refers to Israel. Israel is the nation composed of the individual Jews. :heart
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so you think that you know it all? that you have figured it out? i am not locked in any eschatology. i am humbled by looking into this and admit what i dont know

i dont know what it will be like when christ shows up as well the last day listed have been going on since the days of events of acts one.

they heard rumors of wars, and also dealt with false teachers and earthquakes.
 
There will be no physical branding, period. That is a christian fantasy that sells books by the score to those who live in fear.

I would also certainly refuse the full preterist views on this matter as well. Lame. Very lame.

The beast is shown to us the very first time here:

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field

Do you get the connection here? The serpent IS the beast....the most subtil one there is. Moreso than any beast we could observe in a field, on the outside.

You see the beast is A DECEIVER and A TEMPTER of us all. And no, it was not Nero. What a laugher!

By the time we get to Revelation here is what the beast has become:

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

If you say you are immune to the entrance of the tempter, you are in fact already blinded to the presence of same.

If you say the tempter does not exist today, you again are simply deceived, and will only blame yourself or other people and DENY that presence, which same action is OF THE TEMPTER in you. Sorry to tell you the truth on this matter, but it's just a fact. If someone tells you the TEMPTER was, oh, say Nero or some Pope past or present, they are again speaking deception from the TEMPTER speaking in them and denying the tempter himself. That is in fact a working of the mark of the beast in any given person.

Here is where the 'beast' comes from:

Rev. 17:
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

Paul connects this matter about the son of perdition quite nicely here. Read it carefully and you will see the 'man of sin' the 'son of perdition.' And NO, it is not a MAN you will see as a FLESH MAN or 'thee anti-Christ.' I will highlight it for the blinded ones, but they still may not see:

2 Thess. 2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,



No, Nero was not Satan.


This is a matter of 'mystery' because it is not an 'externally viewed matter.'


Where does that man of SIN sit? He sits in the TEMPLES of MEN. He does so as A TEMPTER and A DECEIVER.


There is more to be said on these matters, but few will be able to pinpoint the location of the tempter to actually be in themselves.


Such people are elected by God to remain blind to the fact as the tempter will cover this matter up within them, claim it is not so, and defray to other subjects that are not YOU.


Today for some however, the location of the man of sin will be revealed, right here in this post.


enjoy!


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Some of you guys seem to be looking in the wrong direction for the Antichrist and mark of the beast. The book of Daniel is predominately a middle eastern book, it's to do with Israel and the nations around her, so why are you looking to Europe and the west for the beast and his system?
Do you know the largest supplier of funds for mosques all over the world is Saudi Arabia. Do you know that the king of Saudi Arabia spent $22 million dollars on personal entertainment, the casino in one night!
Keep your eyes on Turkey, watch, you will see all 10 Islamic nation around her come under her, because of there Islamic doctrine of last things, there 12 immum. Christians know him as the anti Christ, Satan himself, there will be a resurrected Ottomon empire, (the beast who sustains the head wound in Revalation 13:12. The Muslims who take the Islamic swearing allegiance to this 12 imumm will be eternally damed. That is the mark of the beast, swearing allegiance, islamic demon possession. For more reference look up Joel Richardson on you tube.
 
Some of you guys seem to be looking in the wrong direction for the Antichrist and mark of the beast. The book of Daniel is predominately a middle eastern book, it's to do with Israel and the nations around her, so why are you looking to Europe and the west for the beast and his system?
Do you know the largest supplier of funds for mosques all over the world is Saudi Arabia. Do you know that the king of Saudi Arabia spent $22 million dollars on personal entertainment, the casino in one night!
Keep your eyes on Turkey, watch, you will see all 10 Islamic nation around her come under her, because of there Islamic doctrine of last things, there 12 immum. Christians know him as the anti Christ, Satan himself, there will be a resurrected Ottomon empire, (the beast who sustains the head wound in Revalation 13:12. The Muslims who take the Islamic swearing allegiance to this 12 imumm will be eternally damed. That is the mark of the beast, swearing allegiance, islamic demon possession. For more reference look up Joel Richardson on you tube.
So is this one going to battle the revived Roman one?

Im betting on the revived Inca Empire myself.
 
And how about the 666 thing?

It's not as hard as people make it out to be...

Using scripture, where do we see that number other than revelation? It's found in 1 Kings 10.

Read 1 Kings 7 through I think around 11, and then go read Deuteronomy 17:14 to the end.

Then go back and read the accounts of Solomon and you will see all the evil he built his empire on.

That's not how God wanted to build His empire, and we now see the new Kingdom in Christ built on the blood of Jesus Christ, a servant and a King.

P.S. It helps to understand the culture while keeping in mind Solomons reign was the first recorded account of world peace.
 
For more reference look up Joel Richardson on you tube.
I'm a member on Joel's site and - quite frankly - the amount absurd, inane, vain, and utterly asinine speculation is unmatched on the web. The fact that his are just the latest "Johnny-come-lately" theories simply adds to the dreck and drivel found there.

He is no less a false prophet than all those - Lindsey, van Impe, Robertson et al - who preceded him. And, as is the case when dealing with any cult-like group, whenever someone steps into that mess with the least little bit of reason on their side, they are immediately greeted with insults, abuse, howls, wails, tearing of garments and the flinging of ashes on themselves and everyone else.

But I understand he - like the others mentioned above - is probably making a decent living off the books and DVDs he's selling.

Elmer Gantry would blush at the likes of these hucksters.
 
I'm a member on Joel's site and - quite frankly - the amount absurd, inane, vain, and utterly asinine speculation is unmatched on the web. The fact that his are just the latest "Johnny-come-lately" theories simply adds to the dreck and drivel found there.

He is no less a false prophet than all those - Lindsey, van Impe, Robertson et al - who preceded him. And, as is the case when dealing with any cult-like

Storm crow, I a actually believe in the preceding events that occurred to bring Joel into the ministry, his wife to be getting the prophetic word, that her husband would bring great revelation to the body of Christ in relation of end time events.
Joel having no desire to talk about end times or be a scollar of such, then God selecting him out of 7000 people naming him and his wife without ever meeting them, and then declaring Gods authority of end time revelation, publically It's Gods roadmap. It's God the father all over it.
And you have just slandered him.....you should repent.
 
From what I have experienced of Islamist over the past three years, all out spiritual warefare, they are in the coming anti Christ kingdom. I have had them physically on both sides of my house, on one side because my neighbor is a Muslim practicing this supernatural Shia law, and on the other side without my neighbors consent carrying out this... They have a small platform ladder with their version of sacred water, they have to be of the ground when carrying it out. It is demonic and oppressive.

It is wickedness, to try and control people spiritually. This is what they are endeavoring to do, I can't see how they will succeed while the church is on the ground. When I have stood my ground in faith praying in the spirit they have coughed out demons. So the spiritual consequences talked about in Matthew come into play.

I can see that The father is raising them up to be a judgement tool to the people on the earth and Israel. Think about how a large part of the population do as they please, there is blatant homosexuality, adultary, sexual perversion of every type. Greed, lust for all things ungodly.
 
There will be no physical exterior branding of mankind or a 'choice' to be required.

The 'anti-Christ' is A SPIRIT...a BAD ONE.

Well, there may be only 4 scriptures regarding the anti-Christ but the obvious anti-Christ is....drumroll....

Satan.

One does not view 'Satan' with flesh eyes. That operator is a spirit or more accurately an EVIL spirit that is against or opposed to Christ. So, everything that CHRIST IS, the anti-Christ spirit will be opposed or set against Christ.

Pretty simple.

Who then carries the 'mark' of the beast? Would it not be primarily Satan and his minions, DEVILS? Hello?!

Are you going to be physically viewing them missing the MARK or having the mark of MISSING? Missing the MARK is SIN.

All SIN, have SIN and have SINNED.

Sin is OF THE DEVIL.

Why not deal with the fact that mankind inclusive of believers have the mark of the sinner? They missed the MARK. That is the mark of the BEAST and the mark is SIN...

No external branding necessary. The Word of God was to be worn upon the wrist/hand and the forehead. The Jews, sincere as they are MISSED THE MARK on this matter and WORE their phylacteries on the OUTSIDE of their bodies when the Word was meant to be placed IN HEART, that is INTERNALLY.

Why? Because that is where EVIL comes from. From within the HEARTS of mankind.

That is where your own battle resides as well.

Do you think yourself exempt from MISSING THE MARK or HAVING THE MARK OF SIN.

Even more! Do you think YOUR SIN, your MISSING MARK is overlooked by Jesus?

HA!

Man may be forgiven. The cause however is SATAN in HEART and that working is going to be dispelled from the hearts of MANKIND at the finale.

Sensationalist views of martyrdom via beheading is adulterated nonsense to get you to look away from your OWN HEART and that is in fact THE MARK OF THE BEAST in MANKIND.

enjoy!

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LOVE TO ALL,

Always remember that JESUS talks in the SPIRIT, and GOD is a spirit. The intangible has a very different eye than the tangible. As the intangible has no fear of death. LOL!! It's beautiful to see in the SPIRIT ( GOD has allowed me to see this many times in my faith walk!!). Flesh makes no sense and is the very sense that is killing us. We are doing all the work. Though we must sin ( as it's GOD's law after Adam and Eve!!). It's keeping it only in the mind is where believers should be. OR not sinning with others. Through our faith we should have enough control to not spread sin to others by rebuking the devil and calling on JESUS to handle the situation. But to think sin, is still sin to GOD, because HE is in the realm of thought; HE IS A SPIRIT!! Many forget this, and so, they dont realize how powerful it is to think about sin, then do it. It's transcends very far once it goes onto others.


The mark of the beast will be simple to know. As JESUS says to all to beware of the Pharisees, because they worship man before GOD.

So the mark is no faith in GOD. And if one has faith in GOD through JESUS CHRIST, then they obey the greatest to commandments :

MARK 12:28-31
28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?â€
29 “The most important one,†answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no commandment greater than these.â€


So, the mark of the beast is those without love in their heart. So, only GOD will truly know this. The physical mark will be what JESUS said about the PHARISEES.

666 is just a double and mirror of 3 in 1. Devil always tries to imitate JESUS. So he is the angel of light, and JESUS is the LIGHT! He says he can show you all things ( as he told EVE), and JESUS shows us HE is the way but only by the power of GOD the FATHER!! The devil divides people through confusion, wars, rumors, and famines,etc...all in the end to serve him. JESUS divides by TRUTH and LOVE all for the kingdom of heaven where we love and serve GOD with a joyful noise; living peacably.



jesus4life
 
The Mark of the beast is coming to fruition just as Scripture prophesies. And society is being prepped to not only accept it, but to love it.

http://beginningandend.com/mark-beast-humanitys-ultimate-choice/[/QUOTE

For 666 you have to go to Ephesains 6:10-12
Then google search Hebrew alphabet and numbering system.

The 666 is civil, religious, and industrial authorities.
The battle of Christianity is against these elements.
6 - man made government.
6 - religions.
6 - all other power over the masses. Money, materialism, animalism.

all 6 are operated by Satan, as, satan is the god of this world.
All these power work out of animal mind/entity which is opposite Christianity.
These powers negate the equality under which we are all Created.-That means the state overrides the image of God and installs the image it prefers, to bring about materialist dreams and wants.
That is why you were forced to go to school-to be created to the specifications of the state.
The Creator made all equal, but civilization operates on being better than one another. That is a breech of the Creators law. That's what JC came for---to put an end to these powers.

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The Mark of the beast is coming to fruition just as Scripture prophesies. And society is being prepped to not only accept it, but to love it.

http://beginningandend.com/mark-beast-humanitys-ultimate-choice/[/QUOTE

For 666 you have to go to Ephesains 6:10-12
Then google search Hebrew alphabet and numbering system.

The 666 is civil, religious, and industrial authorities.
The battle of Christianity is against these elements.
6 - man made government.
6 - religions.
6 - all other power over the masses. Money, materialism, animalism.

all 6 are operated by Satan, as, satan is the god of this world.
All these power work out of animal mind/entity which is opposite Christianity.
These powers negate the equality under which we are all Created.-That means the state overrides the image of God and installs the image it prefers, to bring about materialist dreams and wants.
That is why you were forced to go to school-to be created to the specifications of the state.
The Creator made all equal, but civilization operates on being better than one another. That is a breech of the Creators law. That's what JC came for---to put an end to these powers.

  • :)



:amen:amen:thumbsup!!

GOD BLESS US ALL,

jesus4life
 
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Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
 
Eccl. 1
[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
[10] Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Eccl. 3
[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

Exod. 16 has just one testing seen (one Commendment of the ten) that found total rejection of them all. Same as James 2:10) It might be good Study to rethink along these lines.;)

[4] Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.:study
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[23] And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, [To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD]: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
[24] And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
[25] And Moses said, Eat that to day; for [to day is a sabbath unto the LORD]: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
[26] Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.

[27] And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.

[28] And the LORD said unto Moses, How long [[refuse ye to keep my]] commandments and my laws?

But today who even attempts such Obedience?
--Elijah
 
ah the sda, the one holy church that cant even get the very time of the shabat right

shabat and any feast is always at night(6pm) when its done not at midnight.

and well the sabbath isnt for the church per acts. it not even needed per paul who told that to the gentiles!



acts 15

19Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

and well even the jews dont make gentiles do the sabaath. they know better, only if one wants to convert is the commandment required. but if one wants to be a noahide one doesnt have to be kosher nor a jew!
 
ah the sda, the one holy church that cant even get the very time of the shabat right

shabat and any feast is always at night(6pm) when its done not at midnight.

and well the sabbath isnt for the church per acts. it not even needed per paul who told that to the gentiles!



acts 15


and well even the jews dont make gentiles do the sabaath. they know better, only if one wants to convert is the commandment required. but if one wants to be a noahide one doesnt have to be kosher nor a jew!

Hi, Elijah here. Surely we want to be correct in our postings, and I had never read in their doctrine where the Lord's 7th Day Sabbath started at (6pm). I do understand that they are in apostasy by having their membership both openly live & teach false doctrines.

Josh. 7
[11] Israel hath sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff.

[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed: [[neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.]]

And about Acts 15?
Acts.15

[1] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
[2] When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders [[about this question.]]

[3] And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
[4] And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[5] But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

And it seems clearly worded that this had NOTHING to do with the Law that God Himself wrote.
Moses law of ordinances were placed in the side of the Ark of God, not INSIDE where the Eternal 10 Commandment Covenant was, & still is kept. (Forum: See Deut. 31:9 + verses 24-26 & Rev. 11:19)

--Elijah
 
Hi, Elijah here. Surely we want to be correct in our postings, and I had never read in their doctrine where the Lord's 7th Day Sabbath started at (6pm). I do understand that they are in apostasy by having their membership both openly live & teach false doctrines.

Josh. 7
[11] Israel hath sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff.

[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed: [[neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.]]

And about Acts 15?
Acts.15

[1] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
[2] When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders [[about this question.]]

[3] And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
[4] And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[5] But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

And it seems clearly worded that this had NOTHING to do with the Law that God Himself wrote.
Moses law of ordinances were placed in the side of the Ark of God, not INSIDE where the Eternal 10 Commandment Covenant was, & still is kept. (Forum: See Deut. 31:9 + verses 24-26 & Rev. 11:19)

--Elijah
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well i am doing channukah, it starts like all jewish feast and holidays in the evening after 6pm based on the moon for feasts and also the days per jewish religious calender start at 6pm not midnight.

that is what i meant the sda doesnt do service on the shabat they to it on sunday

http://www.chabad.org/calendar/location.asp?tDate=12/30/2011&weeks=1&AID=6226

that is what i mean! the sda seems to woefully ingornant of jewish custom.

having service at 6pm saturday isnt the shabat

and here you go

http://www.chabad.org/calendar/candleLighting.asp?tDate=12/30/2011&weeks=1&AID=6226&z=32962&save=1

and i will gander a another region

if one is near this part i selected then you get this is the end of shabat.

see how you are not doing the sabaath?

http://www.chabad.org/calendar/candleLighting.asp?tDate=12/30/2011&AID=6226&c=506&save=1