666- The Mark of the Beast - Humanity's Ultimate Choice

[Sinthesis]

Jesus' resurrection was 'new under the sun

What do you think of Rev_13:8 ". . the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Had this not be so would blood sacrifice representative of Jesus' death been of any value?

It means Jesus' sacrifice was always the plan for the redemption of the world. No sacrifice is of value absent the sacrifice of God.

 

[stovebolts]

As Solomon himself stated: Ecc 1:9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

This was correct when Solomon wrote it, but Jesus' resurrection was 'new under the sun', and ushered in a change from the futility of a human works based understanding of theology to one based on the Grace of God. This is why the Cross is the fulcrum of history. What has been done will be done again, but this time with Christ. This second effort, led by Christ through Christianity, has been going on now for nearly two thousand years, and will not fail as Solomon's reign did.

Hi and thanks for your thoughts. Let me see if I can better explain what I meant.

According to scriptures, there are 2 Adams. There are also 2 main covenants. From this perspective, there is nothing new under the sun.

Are there differences between the two Adams? Absolutely.
Are there differences between the two covenants? Absolutely.

I believe God is reconciling all things through his Son. In the beginning, he created humanity blameless and they saw no differences between them. Adam even said "bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh". He saw no differences. In Christ, we see that same creative force as we too are "new creatures in Christ" and as such, blameless. When Adam and Eve sinned, an innocent animal paid the price to cover their differences. In Christ, by his blood our sins are also covered and there are no differences as we recieve new garments, whether we are jew, gentile, man, woman, slave or free. There are not differences in Christ, although I'm sure you and I could say, "But x, y and z" and list a whole slew of differences. Does that make sense? Hope I'm articulating this ok.

From the beginning, God was working toward reconciliation and we see this resolved once and for all through his Son, the Christ. In that sense, there is nothing new under the sun.

Hope that helps. I know it's not how most think.

Grace and Peace.

 

[Brother Mike]

Hope that helps. I know it's not how most think.

OK, your position is that there will be no future mark of some type to buy, sell or trade? Give me a easy to understand Base to see where your standing. Throwing scripture about Adam and such, I am not following, just what you think is coming in the future if anything at all.

Thank you.

Mike.

 

[Eugene]

It means Jesus' sacrifice was always the plan for the redemption of the world. No sacrifice is of value absent the sacrifice of God.

To me that is right, but instead of saying that Jesus' death was just when He was on the cross, I would say the plan was forever and its execution included His creation of all things, His birth, His death, and His glory; in other words not a new thing, but that's just semantics.

 

[jasoncran]

Most users ever online was 666,

time for a comedic relief, the forum said this and still says while you all debated the mark of the beast. repent ye children of the devil!

 

[n2thelight]

The mark of the Beast is not physical,it's all about giving service(working for)satan cannot force anyone to worship him,those that do wi do so by their own free will........

Let's look at some verses

Exodus 13:9 says, “And it shall serve AS A SIGN to you on your hand, and AS A REMINDER to you on your forehead, that the law of the LORD may be in your mouth; for with a powerful hand the LORD brought you out of Egypt.â€

Deuteronomy 6:5-8, â€You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up. You shall bind them AS A SIGN ON YOUR HAND and they shall be AS FRONTALS ON YOUR FOREHEAD.â€

Deuteronomy 11:18, â€Therefore you shall lay up these words of mine in your heart and in your soul, and bind them AS A SIGN ON YOUR HAND, and they shall be AS FRONTLETS BETWEEN YOUR EYES.â€

James 4:8, â€Come near to God and he will come near to you. WASH YOUR HANDS, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you DOUBLE-MINDED.â€

Psalms 119:48, â€My HANDS ALSO I WILL LIFT UP to Your commandments, Which I love, And I will MEDIATE ON YOUR STATUTES.â€

In Scripture, the seal of God upon the forehead of the elect refers to those who keep the commandments of God and who do not worship the Beast. Conversely, those who have the Mark of the Beast would therefore be identified with those who worship the Beast and do not worship God. This would be the direct antithesis to the mark of Christ and symbolic of worship, of allegiance, of identity to permit all readers of Revelation to know to whom the individual or group belongs to and to whom their allegiance lies. And for those with the Mark of the Beast, it is not with YHWH the God of Israel. Just as those who worship Christ receive the mark of Christ and are “sealed for the day of redemption†(Eph. 4:30), those who worship the Beast receive the Mark of the Beast and will “drink of the wine of the wrath of God†(Rev. 14:9-10) and suffer the same fate as the “Whore of Babylonâ€: destruction.

"In your hand" is an idiom that means to do Satan's work. You do the work of Satan [the Antichrist] when you bring others to him, or help in his system. This mark in the hand is speaking in a spiritual sense. "In the forehead" is referring to your mind [brain]. Being deceived by Satan in your mind is when you think he is the true Christ, and in ignorance you worship him. No computer chip will condemn you, for it is your faith that you will be judged by.

Would love to explain the 666 part of all this,but I can't as I'm not allowed to post it on this site....

I try to follow the rules .......

 

[Randy]

The Mark of the beast is coming to fruition just as Scripture prophesies. And society is being prepped to not only accept it, but to love it.

http://beginningandend.com/mark-beast-humanitys-ultimate-choice/

That powerful deception will not enter this world until the appointed time. The angel of the abyss is still imprisioned and the last testimony Rev 11 hasn't taken place. Now in those days if anyone has any shred of faith and love of God they will accept what takes place in Rev 11 and give glory to God (repent and believe). I mean their bodies are refused burial and after 3-1/2 days are taken up in full view of all into the heavens (as in Come up here). Thats a powerful last testimony and shows the state of the hearts of any people who still refuse to believe and repent of their sins.

Randy