7000 Years is Not Enough

[miamited]

Some references to the 'first month of the year' found in the Scriptures.

The LORD’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.
‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In the first month on the first day you are to take a young bull without defect and purify the sanctuary.
“This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year.

According to God's testimony, the first month of the year was the month in which Passover is celebrated. So the seventh month would have been about the beginning of the winter months. The crops had been harvested and the Jews would have been preparing to plant for the next year in early spring. So God seems to have given them a sign of the Jubilee year that was to be announced before that year actually started so that the Jews would not plant a crop, since that was not allowed during the Jubilee year. And, as I say, to prepare for all the transfer of property that was to come.

So, here's the picture as I understand it. The Jews celebrated the Passover and began their 49th year. Then in early winter or late fall the trumpet sounded to herald the coming year of Jubilee. As I said, this would have been to prepare the Jewish people to get ready to live a different year than they were used to. I mean, let's face it, if you've been living 49 years doing the same thing over and over then you'd need some kind of notice that the next year was going to be majorly different. First, there wouldn't be any planting of crops in the spring because fields were to lay fallow for the entire Jubilee year.

But according to God's testimony, the first month of their year was still to begin in the month of the Passover. The fiftieth year was to be the year of Jubilee and it would be heralded as coming on the seventh month of the 49th year.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Some references to the 'first month of the year' found in the Scriptures.

The LORD’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.
‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In the first month on the first day you are to take a young bull without defect and purify the sanctuary.
“This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year.

According to God's testimony, the first month of the year was the month in which Passover is celebrated. So the seventh month would have been about the beginning of the winter months. The crops had been harvested and the Jews would have been preparing to plant for the next year in early spring. So God seems to have given them a sign of the Jubilee year that was to be announced before that year actually started so that the Jews would not plant a crop, since that was not allowed during the Jubilee year. And, as I say, to prepare for all the transfer of property that was to come.

So, here's the picture as I understand it. The Jews celebrated the Passover and began their 49th year. Then in early winter or late fall the trumpet sounded to herald the coming year of Jubilee. As I said, this would have been to prepare the Jewish people to get ready to live a different year than they were used to. I mean, let's face it, if you've been living 49 years doing the same thing over and over then you'd need some kind of notice that the next year was going to be majorly different. First, there wouldn't be any planting of crops in the spring because fields were to lay fallow for the entire Jubilee year.

But according to God's testimony, the first month of their year was still to begin in the month of the Passover. The fiftieth year was to be the year of Jubilee and it would be heralded as coming on the seventh month of the 49th year.

The only thing that I would add, is that the 49th year was also a sabbath year, so for the jubilee, there would be a second year without sowing, planting and harvesting. Which is what Leviticus 25:20-21 refer to.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Notice that the Scriptures do not say that the Jubilee year 'starts' at the sound of the Trumpets on the 10th day of the seventh month. It's possible that this practice was to herald that the Jubiliee year was coming. That everyone should prepare for the return of property and freeing of slaves and allowing the land to lay fallow for the next year that would begin in 5 months. Because the Scriptures say that after the sounding of the trumpet 'you shall make the fiftieth year holy,...

I mean, let's face it, even God knew, by His own establishment of the year, that when He said that on the seventh month they were to sound the trumpet to herald the Jubilee year, that there were still 5 more months, that He had ordained to finish off the year in which the trumpet was sounding.

No, it's NOT possible. Jubilee year most definitely starts on the day of atonement, declared by Lord Jesus himself. An acceptable year is a jubilee year, the day of vengeance is the day of atonement. There's no remaining 5 2/3 month, that's nothing but your speculation.

“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,
Because the Lord has anointed Me
To preach good tidings to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives,
And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,
And the day of vengeance of our God;
To comfort all who mourn ... (Is. 61:1-2)

And here, God gave prophet Ezekiel a vision in the 25th year of the Captivity, on the 10th day of the month. Some commentary suggests this was the day of atonement, others disagree, but whether this was a jubilee year or not, the beginning of that year was set not on the first day, but the TENTH DAY - by His own establishment of that year.

In the twenty-fifth year of our captivity, at the beginning of the year, on the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after the city was captured, on the very same day the hand of the Lord was upon me; and He took me there. (Ez. 40:1)

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

So yes, when you are working out prophetic events and the timing thereof, found in the Scriptures it is good to use the 360-day year. But that really doesn't change that the actual time it takes for the earth to get back to the same place on its journey around the sun takes 365.25 days.

It does change how you work out prophetic events, such as setting a timeline. God's appointed times can only be accurately marked on God's calendar, not Gregorian Calendar.

btw, a prophetic year may not always be 360 days, a leap month may be added once in a few year. In Dan. 12, the 1290 days may include a leap month.

 

[reddogs]

JT, what are your thoughts concerning the time duration of the 'little season' of Revelation 20?

Shortness and rapidity characterize this period of time, its enough time to gather the nations, but not enough to give it significant time stamp. Its like saying, I will be there shortly....

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Shortness and rapidity characterize this period of time, its enough time to gather the nations, but not enough to give it significant time stamp. Its like saying, I will be there shortly....

Hey reddog, what is it that informs your opinion concerning the 'little season' of Revelation 20..?

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

No, it's NOT possible. Jubilee year most definitely starts on the day of atonement, declared by Lord Jesus himself. An acceptable year is a jubilee year, the day of vengeance is the day of atonement. There's no remaining 5 2/3 month, that's nothing but your speculation.

“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me,
Because the Lord has anointed Me
To preach good tidings to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives,
And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,
And the day of vengeance of our God;
To comfort all who mourn ... (Is. 61:1-2)

And here, God gave prophet Ezekiel a vision in the 25th year of the Captivity, on the 10th day of the month. Some commentary suggests this was the day of atonement, others disagree, but whether this was a jubilee year or not, the beginning of that year was set not on the first day, but the TENTH DAY - by His own establishment of that year.

In the twenty-fifth year of our captivity, at the beginning of the year, on the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after the city was captured, on the very same day the hand of the Lord was upon me; and He took me there. (Ez. 40:1)

Just concerning the passage, Ezekiel 40:1. It is clearly not related to the jubilee, in that, it states, 'in the beginning of the year'. Even in the Millennial Kingdom, which is the time period that Ezekiel is talking about, the beginning of the year is bound to the Passover.

Ezekiel 45:21 'In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.'

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Just concerning the passage, Ezekiel 40:1. It is clearly not related to the jubilee, in that, it states, 'in the beginning of the year'. Even in the Millennial Kingdom, which is the time period that Ezekiel is talking about, the beginning of the year is bound to the Passover.

Ezekiel 45:21 'In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.'

But the historical background is the 25th year of the Babylonian Captivity, not the millennial kingdom. Also, there's a civil calendar which is half a year apart from the Jewish liturgical calendar. On this calendar, Rosh Hashanna, the Jewish new year starts in Autumn, not Spring. A modern version of this calendar is still in use, Jews all around the world celebrate their new year in late September to early October. Since the Jews were enslaved in Babylon, they were very likely to have adopted the civil calendar; if that's the case, then the first month on this calendar would be the seventh month on the Jewish liturgical calendar, and the tenth day the day of atonement.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Some references to the 'first month of the year' found in the Scriptures.

The LORD’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.
‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In the first month on the first day you are to take a young bull without defect and purify the sanctuary.
“This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year.

According to God's testimony, the first month of the year was the month in which Passover is celebrated. So the seventh month would have been about the beginning of the winter months. The crops had been harvested and the Jews would have been preparing to plant for the next year in early spring. So God seems to have given them a sign of the Jubilee year that was to be announced before that year actually started so that the Jews would not plant a crop, since that was not allowed during the Jubilee year. And, as I say, to prepare for all the transfer of property that was to come.

So, here's the picture as I understand it. The Jews celebrated the Passover and began their 49th year. Then in early winter or late fall the trumpet sounded to herald the coming year of Jubilee. As I said, this would have been to prepare the Jewish people to get ready to live a different year than they were used to. I mean, let's face it, if you've been living 49 years doing the same thing over and over then you'd need some kind of notice that the next year was going to be majorly different. First, there wouldn't be any planting of crops in the spring because fields were to lay fallow for the entire Jubilee year.

But according to God's testimony, the first month of their year was still to begin in the month of the Passover. The fiftieth year was to be the year of Jubilee and it would be heralded as coming on the seventh month of the 49th year.

You are being ignorant. A Jubilee year must begin in the seventh month in order to sow winter crops, it can't be delayed to the first month.

Evidence for Inerrancy from a Second Unexpected Source: The Jubilee and Sabbatical Cycles

Scripture’s recording of events from before the Exile that were connected to Jubilee and sabbatical year cycles damages the Documentary Hypothesis.

biblearchaeology.org

"Jewish tradition (Rosh HaShanah 1a in the Talmud) is that Sabbatical years and Jubilee years began in Tishri, the seventh month according to the religious calendar that starts in Nisan (roughly April). This is consistent with the text of Leviticus 25, which for both Sabbatical and Jubilee years speaks of sowing before mentioning reaping. In Israel, the sowing of the winter crops (barley and wheat) takes place in approximately November and reaping takes place in the spring. If the Sabbatical and Jubilee years started in Nisan, then the crop sown in the preceding fall could not be harvested, after which the fall sowing would be missed, thus resulting in two years without harvest rather than the one year that is intended in the legislation. Sabbatical and Jubilee years therefore started in Tishri, the month in which the Jewish Rosh HaShanah or New Year’s Day was celebrated in the past and is celebrated in our own day."

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

According to scripture, the year (every year) begins in the Spring.

The jubilee is a 1, in every 50th, year span that begins on the 10th day of the 7th month.

Here is an article concerning what scripture actually says about the timing of a year.
https://7049biblicaltimelineresearch.org > Articles > Beginning of the Year According to Scripture