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Speaking by the Holy Spirit, I don't think God cares what you call Him.
Our obedience and love counts for far more than any title would ever affect Him.
As God knows what we are thinking when we pray and talk with Him, concerns for how He is addressed don't matter.

Would YOU care if the love of your life; wife, kids, whatever, referred to you as "Joe" or "Joseph": "Dad", "Daddy", or "Pops"; Mister Smith" or "Smitty"; "Speedy" or "Slow-poke"; or any other name when they address YOU?

Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Matthew 12:31


The Pharisee’s were calling the Holy Spirit by the name of the devil.
 
Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Matthew 12:31


The Pharisee’s were calling the Holy Spirit by the name of the devil.
Do you think your comment fits the context of this discussion ?
Your point is true, of course, but kind of a side track.
 
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What name is that?


I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. John 17:11


Does it seem reasonable that God the Father has the Name above all names?


Does it seem unreasonable that God the Father would name His only begotten Son after Himself?
The Son said that he came in His Father's name (John 5:43). A simple investigation will shiw that the name of the Father is Yahweh (not Jesus). The composite name of the Son which conveys the true pronunciation and preserves the meaning “Yahweh is salvation” is Yahshua (YAH – first part of the name Yahweh and SHUA meaning “salvation”).
 
Speaking by the Holy Spirit, I don't think God cares what you call Him.
I think that you have not looked at this issue in detail. The Holy Spirit cannot contradict the Scriptures. Where in the Bible God said that He does not care how people call Him?

Please consider the following:

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord [Yahweh] God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. (Exodus 3:15)

His name shall endure forever; his name shall be continued as long as the sun (Psalms 72:17).

Thy name, O Lord, [Yahweh] endureth for ever; and thy memorial, O Lord, [Yahweh] throughout all generations. (Psalms135:13).

Kings of the earth, and all people; princes, and all judges of the earth: Both young men, and maidens; old men, and children: Let them praise the name of the Lord [Yahweh]: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven. (Psalms 148:11-13).

And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the Lord [Yahweh] of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart. (Malachi 2:1,2).

I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world (John 17:6).

The sun is still rising. Messiah knew and spoke His Name. God's Name is used over 6,000 times in the Scriptures, and nowhere did He say that this Name is not important, should be replaced or taken out of use. On the contrary, His Name should be remembered, praised and glorified.

Our obedience and love counts for far more than any title would ever affect Him.

Yes, and God repeatedly tells people in the Scriptures to glorify His name. Should we be obedient to that?
Would YOU care if the love of your life; wife, kids, whatever, referred to you as "Joe" or "Joseph": "Dad", "Daddy", or "Pops"; Mister Smith" or "Smitty"; "Speedy" or "Slow-poke"; or any other name when they address YOU?
I like your example. If your loved one does not come home for two days, and you call police trying to find her, would you say "My Slow-poke is missing" or give them her name?

You can have a lot of different nicknames for your spouse, but it is her proper name that separates her from others. God gave His name Yahweh to the people and said "this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations". If this was not important, He would not have done that.
 
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Do you think your comment fits the context of this discussion ?
Your point is true, of course, but kind of a side track.

My point is on the other side of the proverbial coin of what you said which I will some up as… “God doesn’t care what you call Him.”


I want people to be sober minded about what they call God.


Now with that being said, I agree with some of the things you said, especially about obeying Him.


I’m not saying “you are wrong”.


I’m just wanting to bring a balance to what you said.
 
A simple investigation will shiw that the name of the Father is Yahweh (not Jesus).


JESUS is the Name of the LORD.


Again as I showed you it was Christ who spoke through the mouth of the prophets.

1 Peter 1:10-11

Anytime we see a prophet saying “Thus says the LORD”, it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet.


Example:


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:, And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:1,10


We already know from the New Testament it was the Son, Jesus Christ Who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands
.
Hebrews 1:8-10



We also know it was the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ who was pierced.





JLB
 
I think that you have not looked at this issue in detail. The Holy Spirit cannot contradict the Scriptures. Where in the Bible God said that He does not care how people call Him?
Please consider the following:
And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord [Yahweh] God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. (Exodus 3:15)
His name shall endure forever; his name shall be continued as long as the sun (Psalms 72:17).
Thy name, O Lord, [Yahweh] endureth for ever; and thy memorial, O Lord, [Yahweh] throughout all generations. (Psalms135:13).
Kings of the earth, and all people; princes, and all judges of the earth: Both young men, and maidens; old men, and children: Let them praise the name of the Lord [Yahweh]: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven. (Psalms 148:11-13).
And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the Lord [Yahweh] of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart. (Malachi 2:1,2).
I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world (John 17:6).
The sun is still rising. Messiah knew and spoke His Name. God's Name is used over 6,000 times in the Scriptures, and nowhere did He say that this Name is not important, should be replaced or taken out of use. On the contrary, His Name should be remembered, praised and glorified.
Yes, and God repeatedly tells people in the Scriptures to glorify His name. Should we be obedient to that?
I like your example. If your loved one does not come home for two days, and you call police trying to find her, would you say "My Slow-poke is missing" or give them her name?
You can have a lot of different nicknames for your spouse, but it is her proper name that separates her from others. God gave His name Yahweh to the people and said "this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations". If this was not important, He would not have done that.
Didn't Jesus call God "God" ?
Didn't Jesus also call God "Father" ?
Didn't He also call His Dad "Abba" ?
As far as the name I call God in private, I am not hindered by a legalist POV.
 
My point is on the other side of the proverbial coin of what you said which I will some up as… “God doesn’t care what you call Him.”
I can see your POV.
But I am not confined to how I can address my new Father.
I want people to be sober minded about what they call God.
Now with that being said, I agree with some of the things you said, especially about obeying Him.
I’m not saying “you are wrong”.
I’m just wanting to bring a balance to what you said.
I don't think God will turn anyone away because they used a different title or name, than what the Jews used.
Context determines much.
 
JESUS is the Name of the LORD.


Again as I showed you it was Christ who spoke through the mouth of the prophets.

1 Peter 1:10-11

Anytime we see a prophet saying “Thus says the LORD”, it was the Spirit of Christ speaking through the prophet.


Example:


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:, And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:1,10


We already know from the New Testament it was the Son, Jesus Christ Who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands
.
Hebrews 1:8-10



We also know it was the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ who was pierced.





JLB
I agree that Yahshua (the true and original name of the Savior, not Jesus) spoke through the prophets. Where was the Father? What is the relationship between the Father and the Son? You deny the facts about the Father's name: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Yahweh
 
I can see your POV.
But I am not confined to how I can address my new Father.

I don't think God will turn anyone away because they used a different title or name, than what the Jews used.
Context determines much.

I would counsel those who use the name Jehovah to reconsider using this name.

Yah Hoveh would be much closer.


No where do we find Jesus teaching any of His disciples to call our Heavenly Father by the name Jehovah.
 
Didn't Jesus call God "God" ?
Didn't Jesus also call God "Father" ?
Didn't He also call His Dad "Abba" ?
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. (Matthew 6:9).

Yes, he called God "Abba" and "Father". Yet, the Savior (who's true name never was Jesus) knew His Father's name and glorified this name. He declared that he came in his Father's name (John 5:43). He never said that it was not important how you call him.

As far as the name I call God in private, I am not hindered by a legalist POV.
You probably don't call your physical father by the name when you talk to him, but if asked, you can tell others his name. With pride if your father is or was good. What you do in private is between you and the Creator, but this is a public forum. Why not declare and praise our Heavenly Father's name as He wants us to do? It is not legalism but common sense, love of the truth, and obedience.
 
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I agree that Yahshua (the true and original name of the Savior, not Jesus) spoke through the prophets. Where was the Father? What is the relationship between the Father and the Son? You deny the facts about the Father's name: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Yahweh

The Father is referred to in the Old Testament as the Ancient of Days.


“I watched till thrones were put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The court was seated,
And the books were opened.
Daniel 7:9-10


“I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
Daniel 7:13


In Revelation He referred to as Him who is seated upon the throne.


And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
Be to Him who sits on the throne,
And to the Lamb, forever and ever!”
Revelation 5:13



Again, it was Jesus Christ the Son, the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of the LORD who spoke through the mouth of the prophets… saying thus says the LORD.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11
 
The Father is referred to in the Old Testament as the Ancient of Days.


“I watched till thrones were put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The court was seated,
And the books were opened.
Daniel 7:9-10


“I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
Daniel 7:13


In Revelation He referred to as Him who is seated upon the throne.


And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
Be to Him who sits on the throne,
And to the Lamb, forever and ever!”
Revelation 5:13



Again, it was Jesus Christ the Son, the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of the LORD who spoke through the mouth of the prophets… saying thus says the LORD.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11
Does the Ancient of Days have a name?
 
I would counsel those who use the name Jehovah to reconsider using this name.
Yah Hoveh would be much closer.
Is that what you call God ?
No where do we find Jesus teaching any of His disciples to call our Heavenly Father by the name Jehovah.
We don't see Him teaching anyone to call His Father Abba either.
If someone is talking to God, God knows their hearts, regardless of what they name Him.
 
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. (Matthew 6:9).
The name I think of when I see that prayer, is Jesus.
Yes, he called God "Abba" and "Father". Yet, the Savior (who's true name never was Jesus) knew His Father's name and glorified this name. He declared that he came in his Father's name (John 5:43). He never said that it was not important how you call him.
If Jesus is not His name, His name has been of no importance for 2000 years of prayer answering by God.
You probably don't call your physical father by the name when you talk to him, but if asked, you can tell others his name. With pride if your father is or was good. What you do in private is between you and the Creator,
End of argument !
but this is a public forum. Why not declare and praise our Heavenly Father's name as He wants us to do? It is not legalism but common sense, love of the truth, and obedience.
Would that name be Adonai ?
El ?
Jehovah ?
Yhovah
Elohiym ?
Won't He answer to all those names ?

Where is the scripture you refer to that tells us of how God wants us to address Him ?
What name do you use ?
 
We don't see Him teaching anyone to call His Father Abba either.
If someone is talking to God, God knows their hearts, regardless of what they name Him.


Jesus taught us to pray to our Heavenly Father.


For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, Romans 8:15-16