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[netchaplain]

NCh, don't mean to be overly "difficult," but it's my thought that Jesus arose from the dead in his *old body.* This was, I think, a physical resurrection much as Lazarus rose from the dead, because Jesus had the scars of his crucifixion, and he informed Mary that he had not yet gone to the Father in heaven, which is where I think he was glorified/rendered immortal.

I could be wrong on this, but this is how I've viewed it for a long time. Not only did Jesus rise to give us immortality, but he also rose to give us limited strength in our current bodies. So he rose in his old body, and then afterwards, ascended into heaven to obtain his glorified body.

Other than this, I completely agree with y'all on the idea we will have physical bodies in eternity--not energy figures that float bodily about the universe. ;) Take care!

Hi Randy! I agree with much of what you've shared, but the Lord Jesus received His new body after the resurrection, and is how He was able to ascended to the Father. God does take our old bodies and change them to the same body that Christ has now. The Spirit will bring our old bodies to life and "change" them into the new body (Rom 8:11; 1Co 15:52; 1Th 4:16, 17). It was 40 days before He ascended to God (Act 1:3).

 

[RandyK]

Hi Randy! I agree with much of what you've shared, but the Lord Jesus received His new body after the resurrection, and is how He was able to ascended to the Father. God does take our old bodies and change them to the same body that Christ has now. The Spirit will bring our old bodies to life and "change" them into the new body (Rom 8:11; 1Co 15:52; 1Th 4:16, 17). It was 40 days before He ascended to God (Act 1:3).

I understand that is your belief, and that's okay. I just don't understand what Scriptures you base that on?

As I said, my argument against Jesus rising in his glorified body is the fact he still had the scars of his crucifixion and the fact he said he wasn't finished, that he had to ascend to his Father in heaven. Why would he say that unless he didn't want to be held back in his old body?

We all know Jesus rose from the dead. But nothing that I know of in the Scriptures states that Jesus could only ascend to heaven unless his had a glorified body? Saints in their mortal bodies were always allowed to do things without having a glorified body, whether Enoch, Elijah, or Philip.

Just asking--not being argumentative.

 

[netchaplain]

I understand that is your belief, and that's okay. I just don't understand what Scriptures you base that on?

As I said, my argument against Jesus rising in his glorified body is the fact he still had the scars of his crucifixion and the fact he said he wasn't finished, that he had to ascend to his Father in heaven. Why would he say that unless he didn't want to be held back in his old body?

We all know Jesus rose from the dead. But nothing that I know of in the Scriptures states that Jesus could only ascend to heaven unless his had a glorified body? Saints in their mortal bodies were always allowed to do things without having a glorified body, whether Enoch, Elijah, or Philip.

Just asking--not being argumentative.

Yes, it's ok of course that we differ in our understanding concerning this issue.