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[donadams]

He is the High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek.

For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. Hebrews 7:12-16


This is the priesthood He has made us a part of.


To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father —to him be glory and power for ever and ever!
Revelation 1:5-6

We are in the royal priesthood by faith & baptism not by ordination

Christ is high priest of the order of melchisedec and the apostles ordained ministers of the same order

 

[JLB]

We are in the royal priesthood by faith & baptism not by ordination

Please show me where you find the ordination in this verse?


To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. Revelation 1:5-6


Catholicism is a doctrine of man, and is not from God.


Jesus Christ Himself has made us priests; a Royal Priesthood because we are priests from the King of kings.




JLB

 

[donadams]

Please show me where you find the ordination in this verse?


To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. Revelation 1:5-6


Catholicism is a doctrine of man, and is not from God.


Jesus Christ Himself has made us priests; a Royal Priesthood because we are priests from the King of kings.




JLB

Just the opposite that verse refers to the royal priesthood not the ordained priesthood

 

[JLB]

Just the opposite that verse refers to the royal priesthood not the ordained priesthood

Please show me where you find these who He made priests were ordained by the Catholic Church?


To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. Revelation 1:5-6



JLB

 

[donadams]

Please show me where you find these who He made priests were ordained by the Catholic Church?


To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. Revelation 1:5-6



JLB

The Mosaic covenant had two priesthoods:

Arron and His successors: high priests over the low ( ministerial order) priests, the Levites:

And

The common priesthood of the people: ex 19:6


There are two new covenant priesthoods:

“Jesus Christ is high priest of the (ministerial) order of melchisedec”.
acts 10:14
heb 5:1
heb 8:1
heb 8:3

Over the Sacerdotal Ministerial priesthood: “apostles & their successors, and those they ordain” “low priests” under the authority of Christ the “high priest”!

With priestly ministry:
Mk 3:14 “ordained”
Matt 22:14 Jn 15:16 “chosen” “ordained”
Jn 20:21 “sent by Christ with His authority”
Jn 20:23 “power to forgive sins”
Acts 1:8 “anointing with power”
acts 1:15-26 “ministry / bishop”
Acts 2:38-39 “administered sacraments”
acts 14:23 “ordained”
Acts 16:4 “ordained “
Rom 15:16 “minister / sanctify”
1 cor 9:14 “ordained”
1 Tim 2:7 “ordained”
1 Tim 3:1-2 “bishop”
1 Tim 4:14 “priest” “priestly ministry”
Phil 1:1 “bishops deacons”
James 5:14 “anointing with oil”

The ministerial priesthood acts in “the person of Christ” so it is Christ who acts thru them vicariously.
2 cor 2:10 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24

And

the Royal priesthood: “baptized members of Jesus Christ”
1 pet 2:5-9 (not a ministerial priesthood)


Christ reformed the mosaic covenant into the new and eternal covenant!

The new covenant was a reformation of the mosaic covenant so it has many similarities. Heb 9:10

Thks

 

[KV-44-v1]

Christ reformed the mosaic covenant into the new and eternal covenant!

The new covenant was a reformation of the mosaic covenant so it has many similarities. Heb 9:10

God does not change. The old Covenant was FULFILLED. We are now under the NEW One. The old Covenant was not changed.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Do fundamentalists have bishops, and ordained priests?
Thks

Irrelevant!
You still don't (and never can, unless you ditch RCC) have any rebuttals!

the burden of proof is on Donadams to prove that the RCC is the Apostolic Church, as opposed, say, to eastern orthodox.
He so far has never really addressed the burden, but dodge it.

Born Again Christians comprise God's True Church. The Church does not have magic power to edit fundamental reality like Dona assumes. Nor does the RCC have said powers.

He has NEVER shown the RCC to be "God's church". It really halts his ability to defend his worldview because he has no answers. Error has no real answer to Truth.

I don't know how he still manages to maintain his assumptions even when his view is shown to be irrational and impossible, and has MASSIVE holes. Catholicism is based on SAND not rock.

When the wind of Truth blows away the sand, the catholicism "castle" can barely do anything.
This is one reason why the catholics censored people centuries ago. They wanted to artificailly protect their precious sand. Ironically it just exposed em even more.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Is that the only way we are allowed to pray?

The only "way"?

The question to ask is "Is God the only One we should pray to?"
The answer is YES. If you worship anything that is not God it's automatically idolatry. Don't try to snake your way around - and attempt to justify - idolatry.

If you can Biblically sanction (allow) worshipping dead people, what's to stop you from worshiping boxes, bags, and golden calves?? Stopping idolatry at any point is arbitrary. Better just to NOT do the thing in the first place! Doh!!

Stop breaking your brain over how you can make excuses for worshipping dead people and just accept the Bible, and thus make your life easier. Also your eternal destiny is then put at WAY less risk.

The RCC has no magic power to manipulate reality, despite your protestations to the contrary. It never has and never will have. You have never shown that it does, nor shown it to be the apostolic church as opposed to any other church being the Apostolic Church.

 

[donadams]

God does not change. The old Covenant was FULFILLED. We are now under the NEW One. The old Covenant was not changed.

Heb 9:10

 

[donadams]

Irrelevant!
You still don't (and never can, unless you ditch RCC) have any rebuttals!

the burden of proof is on Donadams to prove that the RCC is the Apostolic Church, as opposed, say, to eastern orthodox.
He so far has never really addressed the burden, but dodge it.

Born Again Christians comprise God's True Church. The Church does not have magic power to edit fundamental reality like Dona assumes. Nor does the RCC have said powers.

He has NEVER shown the RCC to be "God's church". It really halts his ability to defend his worldview because he has no answers. Error has no real answer to Truth.

I don't know how he still manages to maintain his assumptions even when his view is shown to be irrational and impossible, and has MASSIVE holes. Catholicism is based on SAND not rock.

When the wind of Truth blows away the sand, the catholicism "castle" can barely do anything.
This is one reason why the catholics censored people centuries ago. They wanted to artificailly protect their precious sand. Ironically it just exposed em even more.

Then tell me what is the true church?

 

[donadams]

The only "way"?

The question to ask is "Is God the only One we should pray to?"
The answer is YES. If you worship anything that is not God it's automatically idolatry. Don't try to snake your way around - and attempt to justify - idolatry.

If you can Biblically sanction (allow) worshipping dead people, what's to stop you from worshiping boxes, bags, and golden calves?? Stopping idolatry at any point is arbitrary. Better just to NOT do the thing in the first place! Doh!!

Stop breaking your brain over how you can make excuses for worshipping dead people and just accept the Bible, and thus make your life easier. Also your eternal destiny is then put at WAY less risk.

The RCC has no magic power to manipulate reality, despite your protestations to the contrary. It never has and never will have. You have never shown that it does, nor shown it to be the apostolic church as opposed to any other church being the Apostolic Church.

I asked it that the only method of prayer?