As in the days of Noah

[Shilohsfoal]

And what is to happen to the raiser of the taxes ?

Then shall stand up in his place one that shall cause an exactor to pass through the glory of the kingdom; but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.

Its just one small thing in the middle of many small things.Many that have passed and many to come.
Before the raiser of taxes came a conquerer.After the raiser of taxes comes a vile man.
Alot of people speculate about the vile man but no one seems to have been watching anything else.
When the vile man moves into that estate,is anyone even going to recognize him?
Has anyone on this board researched what he supports or his policies?

 

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This reasoning is faulty, does not make sense. Whatever the worlds population is when Christ comes, the percentage is the same !

And, the longer Christ delays, does not mean conversions are happening, in fact, those saved will have been sealed, no more conversions in the great tribulation.

Jesus seems to say that which indicates that during that time, all flesh will not be saved except the elect Matt 24:


21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Ohhh your a pre-tribulation rapture believer.. Because i believe this foundation belief is wrong most of what pre-trib build upon this foundation is wrong also.


Those of the nations that survive will be ruled by the Messiah with an Iron Rod. Read about His return in Revelation 19. He is not going to be ruling us with an Iron Rod. He will rule the nations with an Iron Rod. If everyone but the elect is killed then there would be no one to rule with an Iron Rod.


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[Sinthesis]

No .Obama is a raiser of taxes.
Perhaps you havnt been following the scriptures at all or you should have known this.Anyone who has been paying attention would know this.
But do you know what happens to the raiser of taxes?
Do you know who comes after him and what that man shall do?

These are things you should be watching for because these are the things at hand.

It's ironic that you believe Obama is in the Bible but Reagan isn't.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It's ironic that you believe Obama is in the Bible but Reagan isn't.

Who said Reagon isnt?

 

[Elijah674]

Rev. 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues,stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

These are surely the saved from Adam on which are saved. Even the ones of Rom. 2:14-15 that were Gentile Christians & did not know it! They learned of God from His nature.

--Elijah​

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Ohhh your a pre-tribulation rapture believer..

No, where did i say that ?

 

[savedbygrace57]

shil:

but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.

What does this mean ?

 

[savedbygrace57]

Rev. 7:9

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues,stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;​

These are surely the saved from Adam on which are saved. Even the ones of Rom. 2:14-15 that were Gentile Christians & did not know it! They learned of God from His nature.

--Elijah​

A great multitude can be a few in comparison to all the rest. Scripture uses that term much.

Numbers 32:1

Now the children of Reuben and the children of Gad had a very great multitude of cattle

Now, what would that great multiude of catte be in comparison to all the rest of the cattle in the world at that time ?

Only few will be saved.. Matt 7:


14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

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No, where did i say that ?

Sorry if i made a mistake, you said:

And, the longer Christ delays, does not mean conversions are happening, in fact, those saved will have been sealed, no more conversions in the great tribulation.

[FONT=&quot]This usually comes from Pre-tribbers. That no one will be saved during the tribulation that all Christians will be ruptured out before the tribulation.

I still disagree with this statement because the ones sealed are 144,000 descendants of Abraham. They are innocents. Not Christians.



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[savedbygrace57]

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Sorry if i made a mistake

You sure did. I am amil !

 

[Shilohsfoal]

shil:



What does this mean ?

shabar-break,broken,bring to the birth,crush,destroy,hurt,quench x qiet,tear.

I dont see anything good coming from it.

 

[Elijah674]

Sorry if i made a mistake, you said:



[FONT=&quot]This usually comes from Pre-tribbers. That no one will be saved during the tribulation that all Christians will be ruptured out before the tribulation.

I still disagree with this statement because the ones sealed are 144,000 descendants of Abraham. They are innocents. Not Christians.



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Heb. 11 has ALL the saved having DIED IN THE FAITH! Ibid 13. (CHRISTIANS!) They offered the 'Lamb' sacrifice which was the Christ'ians offering from Adam on! Gen. 3:15 + the Eternal Gospel of Rev. 14:6. Regardless of what meaning man (Jer. 17:5) puts to the name of faith, they were still all Christians.

How does one find the difference of %50 percent in Matt. 25:1's heavenly comparison with Rev. 12 1/3 finally getting rejected if not the Eternal Gospel?! These angels had sinned! (1 John 3:4, Rev. 22:8-10)

And as Acts 4:12 finds.. 'Neither is there SALVATION IN ANY OTHER: FOR THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.'

So even in heaven Christ/God had the small difference of from the five wise & the five foolish & this 1/3 number of finally rejected ones, that were reclaimed in the future faith of Heb. 11 as well. (from 1/2 to 1/3 is the small number) Compare Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15!

--Elijah

 

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Heb. 11 has ALL the saved having DIED IN THE FAITH! Ibid 13. (CHRISTIANS!) They offered the 'Lamb' sacrifice which was the Christ'ians offering from Adam on! Gen. 3:15 + the Eternal Gospel of Rev. 14:6. Regardless of what meaning man (Jer. 17:5) puts to the name of faith, they were still all Christians.

How does one find the difference of %50 percent in Matt. 25:1's heavenly comparison with Rev. 12 1/3 finally getting rejected if not the Eternal Gospel?! These angels had sinned! (1 John 3:4, Rev. 22:8-10)

And as Acts 4:12 finds.. 'Neither is there SALVATION IN ANY OTHER: FOR THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.'

So even in heaven Christ/God had the small difference of from the five wise & the five foolish & this 1/3 number of finally rejected ones, that were reclaimed in the future faith of Heb. 11 as well. (from 1/2 to 1/3 is the small number) Compare Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15!

--Elijah

Sorry Elijah674

I do not read your posts. They are way to cryptic. I am not a code breaker.

I like to talk with plain words and read the same from other posters.


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