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Contrary to popular Christian belief, nowhere did God require a human sacrifice for sin atonement.
Actual Salvation for believers. Simple.JM said:Potential - Jesus Christ's death makes salvation possible.
Actual - Jesus Christ's death saves sinners.
Incorrect and unbiblical, I suggest you read the Old Testament and look at all the sacrificesâ€â€then fast forward to the New Testament and see how Christ is a sacrifice for the sins of man.Georges said:Niether....God requires a contrite, broken and repentant spirit for sin atonement, as put forth in the Torah, Prophets, and writtings of the Tanach...(the Bible that Jesus used).
Contrary to popular Christian belief, nowhere did God require a human sacrifice for sin atonement.
Nocturnal_Principal_X said:Actual: Jesus’ death saves sinners.
Incorrect and unbiblical, I suggest you read the Old Testament and look at all the sacrificesâ€â€then fast forward to the New Testament and see how Christ is a sacrifice for the sins of man.Georges said:Niether....God requires a contrite, broken and repentant spirit for sin atonement, as put forth in the Torah, Prophets, and writtings of the Tanach...(the Bible that Jesus used).
Contrary to popular Christian belief, nowhere did God require a human sacrifice for sin atonement.
As a matter of fact after doing a simple word search at BibleGateway.com using the word “sacrifice,†I found an abundant supple of scripture proving that Jesus was a sacrifice for us that believe.
Here are a few:
1 Corinthians 5:7
Ephesians 5:2
Hebrews 5:1
Hebrews 7:27
Hebrews 9:26
Hebrews 10:1
Hebrews 10:12
Philippians 4:18
So take a look, in fact read the verses that precede them to get the context.
Good thread JM - people have to get his settled - Christ's death saves sinners - not our repentance, or asking, or confessings, nor our believings :oJM said:Potential - Jesus Christ's death makes salvation possible.
Actual - Jesus Christ's death saves sinners.
Is your answer still neither in light of the question that is posed is to "Believers".vic said:I'm in the 'neither' camp also. What is the death without the resurrection and what is faith without repentance? Do we really come to the Lord asking to take us as we are so we may continue as we are?
Why are we told to "repent ... and believe the Gospel" ( Mark 1:15 ) or "repent... or perish" ( Luke 13:3 ) or to transform by renewing our mind ( Rom 12:2 )?