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Bride Price

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Seems you have posted this pic before. Old girlfriend?
 
The divorce things are in the Law of Moses. This site will help you find it in the Law, http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
I don't remember where I read the explanation, more than one place though. I know it is in the Talmud but I don't know which Rabbi. One site had a photo of an old wedding agreement for the bride price and the bride's name was on it. Of coarse this was from a later time but it read very much like a divorce decreed, in the OT, in the legal aspect of it and the names.
I'll try to find it again, it's been awhile.

I should ask my dad. he would know that stuff.
 
I wasn't really referring to the old Testament stuff. I was thinking more of the women who will only date men who can show signs (and even proof) of having a lot of money. She isn't very concerned about liking the guy for who he is as she is concerned about how much money he has in the bank to pay for her lifestyle, and how much she will be allowed to take when she divorces him. If he measures up in the financial department, she will use her charm, sex, the illusion of her love for him, and anything else she can pull off to "get" him. In the end, he will pay for her or she will walk away.
And he should be grateful that she did because she probably would have made him one very miserable man.
 
The divorce things are in the Law of Moses. This site will help you find it in the Law, http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
I don't remember where I read the explanation, more than one place though. I know it is in the Talmud but I don't know which Rabbi. One site had a photo of an old wedding agreement for the bride price and the bride's name was on it. Of coarse this was from a later time but it read very much like a divorce decreed, in the OT, in the legal aspect of it and the names.
I'll try to find it again, it's been awhile.
doesn't say much.
 
The bride price was supposed to be kept in trust, and used to support the bride and her children if needed.

Today brides and children are protected via life insurance, alimony, and child support payments.
 
I should ask my dad. he would know that stuff.
if I can find it. I will ask him for the marriage contract of my grandparents in Aramaic. that is done and signed at the chuppa ceremony. it is considered legal marriage when all of that is done.
 
if they have life insurance. its not required to get that but if its purchased the spouse is mandated per law to be on that. same with retirement plans. but none of those are required. if one divorces alimony is set per court based on the income of the couple
The bride price was supposed to be kept in trust, and used to support the bride and her children if needed.

Today brides and children are protected via life insurance, alimony, and child support payments.
 
A similar situation was the eldest son receiving a double portion inheritance. The 2nd portion was to be kept in trust. Is for some reason his father could not take care of his family, it became the eldest son's responsibility to use the 2nd portion to make sure that his mother and young siblings always had food to eat.
 
if they have life insurance. its not required to get that but if its purchased the spouse is mandated per law to be on that. same with retirement plans. but none of those are required. if one divorces alimony is set per court based on the income of the couple

Its not a perfect system Jason. In the old days, a young man was required to save up for his family's future support.
 
yet in the west we pawn that off to the government. im not saying that it is necessary evil that a state did that with social care by intention in all cases. though how does one tax a man into saving and call it that? yes in 'merica social security is a tax. that means the government promises to pay you after they by force take money from you. unlike some other nations where its taken from the paycheck and ran more like a pension and you can take your money and move it. its yours and yours only. not in a pot with no way to get if your spouse needs it after your death. with social security the higher of the two incomes is what the spouse gets after the death
 
Its not a perfect system Jason. Nowadays, unbelievers do anything they want to.
oh believers often don't have coverage. my brother doesn't have life insurance.
the reason I have knowledge on some of that is well. war. if I go I must have my wife covered. if I knowingly don't. I can be punished. I have heard of soldiers stealing from their spouses in pay that was owed to them. which is sad. that reminds me of one thing I need to do.

in my state, a will isn't needed for a married couple. its automatic that the surviving spouse gets it all. trusts are way better and cant be overridden as easily.
 
yet in the west we pawn that off to the government...

Today the collective action of millions is used, rather than each family acting as its own insurance fund. Social Security is set up as a social insurance system, as is Medicare.

Both the family insurance unit and collective insurance depend upon the integrity of the trustees to work right.
 
Today the collective action of millions is used, rather than each family acting as its own insurance fund. Social Security is set up as a social insurance system, as is Medicare.

Both the family insurance unit and collective insurance depend upon the integrity of the trustees to work right.
in theory but its not. I know a lot about ss. how does one SUE the state to get what is promised to you! my dad had to do that, and sister. my wife applied and got it. that is why I don't call it really blanket. I know that people scam it. but well if its there money, and they want to loose it stupidity. let them. if its a disability insurance. the free market if its not being miserly will ensure they don't scam them. with the government its really stupid what they make you prove to get it. my dad has a history of seizures and lost his dl numerous times, he had boxes in the court room and had to demonstrate his inability to type. and write. and hold a cop. yet if he could sit in a church. he would be denied so he lawyer asked the judge to have that demonstration. all one needs for disability insurance is the doctors note of injury and inability to work. I had that plan on a truck and that is all that was needed. not court. no five year wait. just that and few days and the check came.
 
oh believers often don't have coverage.

In the old days, a young man was required to save up for his family's future support before he was allowed to marry. Today, it is voluntary.

...trusts are way better and cant be overridden as easily.

Varies by state. In many states, insurance goes to whoever is named as beneficiary on the documents, without passing through probate. Ditto for IRAs. Taxable accounts and homes are decided by the probate judge following state law. Trusts are nice if the recipient is not good at managing money. A responsible trustee can be named to give them a monthly income, pay bills, or whatever.

This all varies by state though. A local lawyer would be needed to advise you on what works best to protect your family in your state.
 
in theory but its not....

Its far from a perfect system. All such systems depend upon how well the trustees administer it. With the old system, the eldest son might do a good job as trustee, or squander it like the prodigal son in the parable.. Collective insurance systems work only as good as the trustees administering them make them work. Voters need to tell their elected representatives what they want, and make sure they follow through.
 
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