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Warfield Back In The Fold

Hall of Fame wide receiver Paul Warfield is back with the Browns.

Monday, the team announced Warfield had been hired as a scout and career planning consultant.

“There’s been a lot of conversation with (owner) Randy (Lerner) and myself with re-connecting the Browns organization with the community and the alumni and the past,’’ coach Butch Davis said.

Warfield’s hiring represents one step in doing that.

Warfield will work from Cleveland and from his home in West Palm Beach, Fla,, where he will do a lot of scouting of college players and potential free agents. When he’s in Cleveland he will help players with post-football career plans, and be a goodwill ambassador in the community.

“Paul was an enormously charismatic player here,’’ Davis said. “ He’s a legend in the National Football League having an Ohio background. He’s a class individual.’’

Davis said Warfield would evaluate players in the draft and free agency, and would have special assignments during the season. He would join the team at the Scouting Combine and the Senior Bowl, and help in the offseason.

Warfield has always been one of the most popular Browns. He grew up in Warren and went to Warren Harding before playing at Ohio State. As a rookie in 1964, he contributed to Cleveland’s last championship team – leading the team in receptions with 52 catches for 920 yards and nine touchdowns.

He played for the Browns until 1969, when he was traded to Miami for the draft pick that turned into quarterback Mike Phipps. When he returned for a Monday night game as a member of the Dolphins in 1973, fans gave him a rousing ovation – a moment he has called one of the highlights of his career. Warfield finished his career as a Brown in 1976-77.

Warfield tried to team with Calvin Hill to run the Browns when the team returned from a three-year hiatus in 1999, but his potential group was not awarded the team. At the time, Hill said Warfield had more football knowledge than anyone he knew.

Warfield’s first stint as a personnel evaluator with the Browns was in the mid-1980s. A desperate Marty Schottenheimer called on him after the Browns had searched long and hard trying to find a prolific wide receiver to no avail.

They tried big guys like Willis Adams and little guys like Dwight Walker. They tried drafting them, trading for them and signing them off the street.

What they got was a big headache and little satisfaction.

So Schottenheimer, knowing that he had to find some go-to receivers for his young franchise quarterback, Bernie Kosar, gave Warfield one task: Find the top receivers who were going to be available in the 1986 draft.

Warfield had to dig deep because the Browns didn’t have a first-round pick. It had gone to Buffalo for the supplemental draft pick that turned out to be Kosar.

When Warfield brought back the findings from his search and the Browns acted on his recommendation and took a skinny kid named Webster Slaughter from San Diego State, fans scratched their heads, shrugged their shoulders and said, “Who?â€Â

Six seasons, 305 catches (seventh on the Browns’ all-time list), 4.834 receiving yards (sixth), 27 receiving touchdowns (seventh) and three trips to the AFC Championship Game in four years later, the fans knew full well who Webster Slaughter was.

The members of the Browns hierarchy realized then that they should have gone to Warfield long before that. If they had, they would have saved themselves a lot of time, money and embarrassment.

Now the Browns have called upon Warfield again to help them. They didn’t have to call long or hard, however. He was ready, willing and able. Always a Brown, always prepared.

“Paul wants to be involved in football,†Davis said. “This is an opportunity. He’s a legendary great player in the league. Heââ‚â„¢s a Brown. He’s from Ohio.

“For a lot of reasons, it just makes sense.â€Â

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I went to the Browns vs. Bills scrimmage today in Rochester. The one positive I took from seeing the Browns is that I have no doubt that Lee Suggs WILL be the starter.

He had this awesome cutback run where he gained 60+ yards on the play. A Bills DB had the angle on him so that was all that saved it from being a TD. Every time he got the ball he had decent gains, and a handful of plays he broke tackles and gained excellent yardage. Willie Green looked very rusty and sluggish similar to how he was the first half of his rookie season. Instead of attacking the holes, he danced around too much deciding on a lane to take.

Jeff Garcia looked a little shakey, but was able to move the ball well with the help of Lee Sugg's running. This offense definitely is missing Kellen Winslow. Garcia had a few balls batted down too. The offensive line looked a little better but its still inconsistent. It was a full contact scrimmage except for on the QB and that was a good thing. Garcia would have been blasted a couple of times from his blindside.

We need to get a backup QB before the season starts. Holcomb looked and played terrible with the second team. He threw an INT in his only series. When they came back out of the locker room in their street clothes, Kelly had his shoulder wrapped and iced.

Luke McCown the rookie QB made some mistakes but he had some bright spots as well. He's definitely going to need some time before he can play but I do see potential with him.
 
Winslow agrees to contract

Kellen Winslow is a Cleveland Brown. The team and its first-round draft pick agreed to terms on a six-year contract Tuesday night.

Negotiations that continued late into the evening ended with the agents for Winslow agreeing to a deal that could be worth as much as $40 million if he reaches all his incentives.

Winslow received a signing bonus worth $16.5 million, a source said, and the base structure of the contract will pay him $29 million.

What got the deal completed?

Apparently the influence of two ex-Browns was significant. John Wooten knows Winslow’s father, the Hall of Fame tight end, and Wooten and Jim Brown reached out to the Winslows to say they felt the Browns’ offer was legitimate.

The two sides talked over the weekend, and then met again Tuesday night. Apparently Wooten urged Kelllen Winslow Sr. and Kevin Poston (the agent) to come to Cleveland.

Serious talks started early in the evening and concluded with the agreement.

Winslow could be in camp today, he could practice on Thursday and he could travel with the team for the preseason opener Saturday in Nashville.

The Browns targeted Winslow as one of the three players they needed in last year’s draft. Tackle Robert Gallery went to Oakland and a trade up with the Giants to land safety Sean Taylor could not be completed. The Browns then moved up one spot – and gave up a second-round pick – to get Winslow.

Winslow is expected to give Jeff Garcia a strong down-the-middle presence.

At 6-foot-4 and 250 pounds, Winslow is an inviting target. He caught 117 passes for the University of Miami the last two years. He scored only one touchdown as a junior and had nine TDs in his career.

The Browns have high hopes for Winslow. Players privately raved about his ability after seeing him in mincamp.


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DKc...

Thanks for the report! Sounds similar to many of the reports I have read about the scrimmage.

I'm excited about what Suggs can do...we were lucky to get him where we did last year, and having Greene as a backup is not a bad proposition (look at Miami's backfield!!!).

O-line and tackling in the secondary remain the biggest questions, I think. Stop the run on D, and protect Garcia and we could have a promising season.

Again, thanks for the report...only 5 more days until I see my first game!
 
Oh, I forgot to mention to D. The D played about the same as they did last season. One play they'd make a big play and then turn around and give up a big play. There is potential there, they just need consistency. Andra Davis wasn't there so our LB is definitely lacking when he's not in.

Also we seem to have way to many walking wounded. Courtney Brown had his knee wrapped up after, Mike Lehan didn't play because a sprain and James Jackson was out with pulled hamstring. Hopefully we've already seen the worst of our injury woes.

Did you see they pulled Chad Beasley out and put Enoch DeMar in at LT?
 
I think you meant LG...but yeah, I saw that. I have no clue how it might work out, but I think Verba will have a good year...he seems to be pretty healthy.

We sure get our share of injuries, that is for sure...I haven't heard that Davis was tough on em in camp, but he's banged up a few.

At least we have the best depth (barely) we've had in years.

That's interesting about Holcomb...you know I actually bought a #10 jersey last year? Great waste of $80. Now all I have is a Couch and a Holcomb jersey. I'm afraid if I buy a Garcia jersey he'll set a new record for interceptions in a game.

Maybe I'll go with the good 'ol stand-by for my new jersey, #19!
 
Good 'ole Bernie. I hope they give him a position with the team pretty soon, he deserves it for his loyalty even when Browns manangement and probably even some Browns fans weren't loyal to him.

I'm hoping Holcomb was just having a bad day. If he wasn't, then we are in a lot of trouble if Garcia goes down.
 
Brownies looked MUCH improved against Detriot!

1. Ran the ball great! I know the lions don't have a great run-D, but the holes were enormous and all four RBs ran great. JJ may be leaving, but hopefully we can get something good for him as opposed to just a draft choice next year. Regardless, I feel great about Suggs and Greene. I think we could average 150-180 a game on the ground. If we can win the time of possession battle, we can go a long way to winning some games, especially against Baltimore.

2. Stopped the run better, but the LBs are still out of position...to many tackles in the secondary. Warren played great, Roye and Lang don't look like their old selves yet.

3. Quincy actually HELD ON to a ball, and Winslow will be stellar this year. Pass protection is still weak, probably the weakest part of our team at this point. Winslow and Northcutt will get most passes because of this.

4. Secondary looks slow....the corners are getting beat, but tackling better than last year. They were phenominal last year, but this may be the one part of our team were we regress....against the pas.

5. Red Zone D is looking very good. We were one of the best last year in the zone, and I think we can remain strong this year.

In short, I am upping my over/under to 8 games now from 6 games. If we come out strong against Baltimore and control the clock with the run, I think we will make a statement and have a heck of a year.
 
They are talking about getting the 3rd rounder the Dolphins got from Chicago. Personally, I'm starting to think they should keep JJ and trade Willie Green.

I also think we need to sign a b/u QB because McCown won't be ready to play if Garcia goes down and Holcomb has looked terrible thus far. If we should happen to lose Garcia, we will very likely end up like last year or...... (**gasp**)......worse.

I think Quincy Carter would be a good choice. We have the cap room and he has both mobility and experience. One or two year deal until McCown is ready.

I'm thinking 7-9 and 8-8 would be something to cheer about. Anything above that is expecting too much.
 
Quincy would be interesting...you are right, with our pass protection little Garcia might have a tough time making it through the year.

I wouldn't mind letting Green go...but I think Davis has a soft spot for him. More so than JJ. Either way, looks like Suggs has the job locked up. One article called him injury prone, but wasn't his only injury the shoulder before the draft (otherwise he would have been a 1st rounder).

With Miami's D, I would like to see an OLB this year, as opposed to a draft pick. We need at least one established LB, but it's doubtful Miami would go for that.

I agree with 7-8 games. With Miami down in the East, that is another open Wildcard spot. Some analysts are picking Cinci to fill it, so I think we got a shot to slip in with 8 wins.
 
Lee also tore his knee up in his sophmore year at Tech too. Did you notice he and Kevin Jones were trying to outdo each other each time they got the ball? Jones took over RB after Suggs went to the draft last year. A Big East coach once said he'd rather face Kevin Jones than Lee Suggs because Jones doesn't like contact, Suggs will run right over you if he has to. A guy I work with debates with me about who will be a better NFL back. I've always like Suggs better, (I'm a Hurricane fan) and I too would rather face Jones than Suggs.
 
Personally, I'm starting to think they should keep JJ and trade Willie Green.

I'd go with that. I think willie would get us a better than average LT, and we could use it. Watching Suggs break tackles and run over people reminds me of just how much W Green is lacking. Speed isn't everything. JJ is a solid back up who can jump in and get the job done.

W Green and Q Morgan for a good, solid, better than average LT.

With Deon playing for the Ravens now, maybe that game will be national TV.


I'm liking what I see out of this guy so far. He has the mobility, the arm strength, the quick release to beat the zone, all the things you need to make in the NFL today. That pick just may be the best pick we made in a while with the exception of Suggs. I hope all the other intangibles fall into place for McCown, he looks better than Holcomb right now.

Speaking of Holcomb....Until last year, that guy was fearless in the pocket, never stared down receivers, and if it was there, he ran with the ball. I don't know if it was the one year of taking a beating, or if the coaches destroyed the guy, but he's not the same.
 
BTW, Garcia is right about the Chemisty, he should have gotten more minutes. That's a big brain cramp from the coaching staff. New QB, new system, and limited minutes? Anyways, I'm glad Garcia is speaking up and the coaches are letting him, this will help him to be the team leader we need him to be. It will also set a good example for McCown to follow.

I noticed a lot of break downs in the secondary, linebackers letting wide receivers go and the safety got over too late to pick it up. I think those things will be ironed out though. With all the new players fighting for jobs, those things are bound to happen.

We have enough talent to win. Our worst enemy is going to be the chemistry factor. If we overcome that, I'm going to go out on a limb and say 10-6 this year. A quality QB will make the difference. We'll keep the ball moving with less three and outs, and the D will not be on the field for three and one half quarters which will help us defend against the running game in the forth quarter, when it's been killing us. I also think that Winslow will not begin to be a big factor until late in the year.

I'd let Northcut off the hook for returning punts if he's going to be our number one receiver. With Dee Brown and CJ Jones, I think we will be better off. Northcut is too small to take the pounding of kick returner.

God bless

P.S. I hope we are holding back on offense just for the suprise factor in the season opener. I'd hate to see us try to change Garcia into a pocket passer. What a waist that would be. We should be a great play-action team with the running game we have now, Why not take advantage of it? Some roll outs and boot legs would be just what this offense needs.
 
I hope we are holding back on offense just for the suprise factor in the season opener. I'd hate to see us try to change Garcia into a pocket passer. What a waist that would be. We should be a great play-action team with the running game we have now, Why not take advantage of it? Some roll outs and boot legs would be just what this offense needs.

I agree. I think week 1 against the Ravens would be the week to do it. With the way Jamel Lewis runs the ball against us, this is not a game we can afford to get behind in. I still wish they had signed Quincy Carter or traded for Mike McMahon. If Garcia goes down, we are all but assured of a horrible season. McCown is looking good, but playing against 3rd team D's isn't quite the same as a 1st team D.

My overall evaluation, I would consider a 7-9 or 8-8 a decent season. On a side note, I like what KW2 brings to the team. Hopefully he will be a spark to light a fire under this team both offensive and defensively.
 
A well oiled machine. :lol: Our first string offense had too many penalties. As has been the pattern in the last few years, this will most likely carry into the regular season. Aside from that, we started to iron things out, a little more time would have been nice.

I think that King should get the start over Q Morgan. Last year and this spring the guy has caught almost every thing thrown his way, and he is one of the fastest guys on the team. While Q Morgan always shows promise, he just hasn't been able to get the job done.

It was good to see a few roll outs by Garcia.

I think the trade of Jackson, if it's going to be made, should be made now. D. Brown is fine for a third stringer. Actually, he has great skills but is still lacking the ability to adjust on the move and find holes i.e. bounce outside/cut back, Jackson was like that too. I'll tell you though, if there's daylight, he knows how to make the most of it.

I liked McCown again. I know it's third stringers he's playing against, but he's still showing me something. If he doesn't have a achillies heel in his game, like the inability to learn to read defenses and stuff like that, he's going to be our starter in two years, and a very good one. BTW, Krenzle still cannot throw short out patterns, his achillies heel.

On D Shawn Thompson had a good game, that was nice to see. That guy is fast! Overall, we are in decent shape on D. I like some of the young guys we have on the D line, it would be nice to hold onto all of them.

It was great to see Campo is mixing the blitz packages up. It's working, our blitzes actually work now. :lol:

It would be nice if Ogden was out, that would be huge.

Being foolishly optimistic, as Browns fans are known to be, I'll take Cleveland over Baltimore in a high scoring game with lot's of mistakes made by both sides. Cleveland 31 Baltimore 24. It should be 17 for Baltimore but Butch will play prevent. :shocked!:
 
My prediction...offense still plagued by penalties....missed pass patterns. J. Lewis still gets 150 yards.

But Lee Suggs gets 125 with 2 TDs (I really hope he is 100%)

Browns: 20
Ravens: 17
 
Last night on the news they said Suggs is doubtful, I hope this is just butch playing mind games, we need Suggs in this game. Ogden is a question mark still also.

One thing about Dion Sanders, he can cover, but he's never been a very good tackler. Maybe we can benefit from that and some rustiness on his part.

Couch cut from Green Bay, and Roda is still making excuses. I hear Couch is filing a grievence with the league because players are not allowed to be cut while they are hurt. Peterson, who was Couch's backup in Cleveland, beat Couch out for the second string QB job in Green Bay. Just think, we were going to pay him 4.5 mil. a year for two years. :o Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

The people who are on the bubble this year? Definately Butch Davis, Cortney Brown too.

I can't believe we cut Mark Word. He was the best pass rusher we had.

How to beat the Ravens? Last year, you had to throw deep on them. This may no longer be a weakness with Dion there now. I'll tell ya, their D is solid. We are going to not only need a good game plan, but we must not be predictible on offense. If Butch plans on butting heads with these guys with a straight up power game, I think we will lose the battle. Who ever makes the least mistakes, game planning, and play calling will be the difference in this game. We'll see what Butch is made of in this game.
 
Last night on the news they said Suggs is doubtful, I hope this is just butch playing mind games, we need Suggs in this game. Ogden is a question mark still also.

Yes, we need him. And Greene, and Jackson on 3rd downs. We are relatively deep there, but they gotta produce.

Since the job is still up in the air, they will both likely have a pretty good hunger. That is good.

One thing about Dion Sanders, he can cover, but he's never been a very good tackler. Maybe we can benefit from that and some rustiness on his part.

I agree completely. We need to pass early to establish the run, not the other way around. Two "3 and outs" by failing to rush will be death. And you know they are going to pack the box.

Get Northcutt involved on some quick slants and send Winslow out on some play actions early.

Then let Suggs and Greene go to work.

I can't believe we cut Mark Word. He was the best pass rusher we had.

I was flabbergasted by that too. Really raises the onus on our FOUR first round draft pick DLs.

Dumbest move this season, by far.

As luck would have it, I will be on the road during the game, so I am Tivoing it. I hate that because I won't be able to watch the game until about 6:00 PM (on the west coast even! 8 hours later).

That means I can't even listen to the radio all day, so the game is fresh for me. I hate that!!!!
 
They said today that Suggs has no pain, but the doctors want to hold him out until he regains his strength. We need him.

We need to pass early to establish the run, not the other way around. Two "3 and outs" by failing to rush will be death. And you know they are going to pack the box.

Get Northcutt involved on some quick slants and send Winslow out on some play actions early.

Then let Suggs and Greene go to work.

Sounds like a good plan to me. Regardless of whose on the corners, we are going to need to stretch the defense. With eight in the box on D, i'd expect some blitzing against us, especially with our O line. The plan would be to not give us the time to run the deeper routes, this is why a good play action is critical, to slow the rush down. This is where Winslow could pay off big for us too. If we can hit him early and often, we can force the Ratbirds to put Lewis on him, opening thing up for us. This is going to be an interesting game.

I expect the Browns to come out on fire and firing. If we play to our potential, we should wipe the floor with them. They don't even have a QB, that should be a death sentence for any team. Remember in the eighties when no team on the scheduel scared you? Now every team strikes fear, even the Bengals LOL. Sign of a good team is when the scheduel always looks soft.


Being a second shifter for most of my life, I have tried that often, keeping the game fresh, but couldn't do it. I had to listen on the radio, or ask someone. If you can waite for eight hours without asking anyone or listening to a radio, you should win some Kung foo award for discipline. LOL

I heard on the radio that there is going to be fines for stupid penalties. AMEN to that.

Everyones going to be pumped up, I hope Butch takes a step forward as head coach, starting Sunday. GOOOOOO BROOOOOWNS!
 
WOW!

What a great start to the season! I realize the D wasn't tested by the best in the league, particularly on the pass, but the best team D I have seen in years.

In short, it is the first time in probably a decade where the Browns simply dominated and won the game.

My grades:

O-Line: C+
No enough holes on the run, pocket collapsed fast

QB: B+
Garcia did what we hired him to do...needs more time to get to know the WR and the system

RB: B+
Greene did what we needed to do. I'd like to have Suggs back

WR: B
Solid blocking, got open when we needed them to do. Where was Northcutt???

TE: A-
Winslow is going to be incredible.

D-Line: A-
The only reason not for an A+ is Warren got hurt...great pressure

LB: A
Davis was all over the field, J. Lewis went no-where

CB: C+
A. Henry is for real, but coverage was too soft at times. A better QB will tear them up

Safeties: B+
They made tackles! Lots of them! Didn't do well on 3rd and longs.

Special Teams: A+
Winslow will block two punts this season. Frost was incredible. Northcutt will do very well. This could be the strongest part of our team.

Coaching: B+
A little conservative in the first half....penalties and wasted TO still a problem. 2nd half coaching(especially defensive) best I've seen in years.

Lemme know your grades guys!
 
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