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Can we talk about anger?

humble soul said:
Sounds like you are trying to self motivate
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I think motivation is very important.
To have a find a real meaning. A purpose in life. The truth!
I think my only motivation is to find the truth.
And it's right there..
 
humble soul said:
Where? Just there? Or over here? I can't see it.
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“Do not let your heart be troubled (afraid, cowardly). Believe [confidently] in God and trust in Him, [have faith, hold on to it, rely on it, keep going and] believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have told you, because I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and I will take you to Myself, so that where I am you may be also. And [to the place] where I am going, you know the way.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going; so how can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “ I am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
John 14:1‭-‬6 AMP
 
humble soul said:
Just because we are angry, doesn't mean we are right... ?
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No, often being angry is our recognition that we are wrong.

If we want to control our temper we have to recognise what causes us to become angry.
To recognise whether there is a reason for that anger.
Anger because it is my turn to.. is childish, we agreed to do what ever it is, we can talk and reason and negotiate.

Anger in my experience of my loss of temper is frequently selfish, it is what inconveniences me that makes me Angy and how petty most of them are.
 
stovebolts said:
This is why scripture tells us not to sin in our anger, but what many fail to realize is that doing nothing with your anger is actually sinning. Why? Because that anger should motivate us to do what’s right in order to make a positive change in this world.
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Excuse me Brother, but this doesn't ring true to me. Jesus did not heal a man through His anger. Love contains the healing. I can't see how anger should ever motivate one to action. We are to be be being led of the Spirit. We are to be behaving within the will of God and the moment we step outside the will of God, we're making our own decisions and that is sin.

Ok, so Jesus got angry at the money changers and knocked over their tables in the temple. He did not sin in this. But Jesus said that He doesn't do anything except what He sees or hears the Father do or say. So that single example is a very narrowly defined set of circumstances and in no way authorizes us to go out and angrily change the world for the better.

I've been taught to walk in Love, to bless those who curse me, to forgive those who wrong me, and to pray for my enemies. So even though a good case could be made for righteous indignation your post painted with too broad a brush to be able to remain true in (most) circumstances.

Certainly there is a time to fight in life. There is a season for all things. But it better be Spirit led or it is outside the will of God.
 
kiwidan said:
Jesus was a angry and intolerant person and he had his opinions and beliefs and stood firm for what he believed.

People make Jesus out like he was a little soft cookie but if they stand in his place and call as many as he did hypocrites and yea, I have nothing else to say.

Jesus is not who many think he is.

And me saying that I'm guessing some people will wonder why I can say I am a Christian and say those things.
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You're right. I didn't say He is a soft cookie. I said He's taught me to pray for my enemies. When Jesus returns, there's no reason to think that He is bringing peace. He'll bring a sword. He is intolerant because He is holy and He is God. But at the same time, He is longsuffering, patient, kind and loving.

But vengeance is still His. Man is so stupid that if we tried to do the right thing, we would mess it up, guaranteed.
 
Jesus never denied worship because he claimed he claimed be the truth, and he said look into yourself. Yes Jesus is the Lord, yet he said, look into yourself, that is his teaching.

Just my opinion I believe Jesus wants people to seek within themselves who they really are and there full potential and the truth and not looking at him on the outside for who he was in the flesh and blood.

It's Spirit. The Father is Spirit, Jesus is Spirit, the Holy Spirit obviously is Spirit. It's all Spiritual.

And it's all about connecting with the Spirit in harmony, or as some non religious people might call it the natural harmonic universal frequency.

It's all energy and frequency.

God is the energy source, the everything that is. The first and the last. The creation of it.

Just my opinion.
 
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kiwidan said:
Jesus never denied worship because he claimed he claimed be the truth, and he said look into yourself. Yes Jesus is the Lord, yet he said, look into yourself, that is his teaching.

Just my opinion I believe Jesus wants people to seek within themselves who they really are and there full potential and the truth and not looking at him on the outside for who he was in the flesh and blood.

It's Spirit. The Father is Spirit, Jesus is Spirit, the Holy Spirit obviously is Spirit. It's all Spiritual.

And it's all about connecting with the Spirit in harmony, or as some non religious people might call it the natural harmonic universal frequency.

It's all energy and frequency.

God is the energy source, the everything that is. The first and the last. The creation of it.

Just my opinion.
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Exactamundo Brother. God is Love so Love is the most powerful energy in existence. And Love has a frequency.

Jesus's example to us of how we are to sow love is when He was on the cross. He prayed for the men who hammered the nails into Him. And if we are to be taking on Christ's image, then our anger must be suppressed. Forgive the enemy and pray for them.

The reason we are taught to forgive is not some weirded out character building thing, but rather the negative energy of the bitterness and hatred which anger sprouts within us will damage our spirit and inhibit our spiritual growth. It hurts us more than it hurts them.

That's our loving Abba looking out for us. Careful there son, that's a dangerous toy you have there, that anger. Don't hurt yourself!
 
When we are angry, it is a very good time to be careful what we say. Don't cut people down. Saying mean things about a person (true or not) is in reality, cursing them. The power of life and death are in the tongue. What comes out of our mouth has a frequency so could hurt others or ourselves.

James 3:9-11

9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?.../

Looking back, I have had moments of anger well up inside of me for various reasons. Many times, I have embraced the anger and made poor choices, and other times I have caught myself and stopped it. Immediately forgive the person...and, a peace came over me!

Jesus's anger at the money changers tables was operating within the wrath of God. Men are not bright enough to dish out God's wrath! Nor are we supposed to!

Good Judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement.
 
humble soul said:
Some people like being angry. They like to let others know they are not easy going. They like the "difficult" label. Because sometimes the difficult person gets more than the easygoing one. Take the difficult customer for instance. As long as they don't get openly abusive or too angry, they can get what they want.
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It’s funny you should say that. I used to be an angry man, but Gods been working on me and I’d like to think Gods transformed me.
so, years ago I went to have new tires put on before going across the country on a road trip. I made it across the country and realized I had to change my brakes. When I went to take the front tire off, I realized they cross threaded the lug and ruined it.
I called the tire store and told them about it in a very nice way and told them they could make it right when I returned. They refused. Reason wasn’t working... I started to force myself to raise my voice, and I was met with resistance. As a result, I put on my angry voice all while keeping sound reasoning and accountability as the topic. The manager finally agreed to fix the issue.
Once he agreed I went back to my normal voice and asked, “Why did you make me raise my voice to get you to make this right? My message never changed. The only thing that changed was the tone of my voice.”
He didn’t really have an answer.
 
Quantrill said:
Jesus didn't 'heal' for a teaching moment. He healed. How empty that is to the one being healed to say it was for a teaching moment. He healed because He had compassion on those who needed it. And He was angry at those who opposed Him on such legalistic basis.

No. As to why Jesus healed, doesn't teach us to do right even though we are persecuted for it. It teaches us that Jesus is the Son of God with power to heal. It teaches us that to be angry at those who oppose Jesus is justified. It teaches us there is no room for this old mother hen form of pacifism that has infected the Church today. Milk toast Christianity. Nauseous.

Quantrill
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Boy oh boy. You really have some sharp opinions, don’t you? lol. and I see you like to argue your own ghosts.

Of course Jesus healed out of compassion. I‘m not sure how you reasoned I said otherwise but I suspect you have a ghost inside your head that is being super imposed onto what I write. Sorry, but I can’t reason with that, so I think our conversation on the matter has come to an end.

enjoy your day.
 
humble soul said:
Good psychology and counselling encourages people to express anger when appropriate and in a healthy way. They encourage assertiveness. Saying our preferences instead of stating what "must" happen. Not raising ones voice for example. Also prevention being better than cure.
But a lot of our anger is not good. When we become angry people. Angry by habit. I know I have to monitor my own anger when driving. I am easily stirred up just by a driver not using their indicator light. Slow drivers can irritate me. My anger is not good. I just spoil my own day.
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Ahh, yes there is a time when anger is inappropriate, like getting stuck behind a slow car. It’s not really that we’re running late or anything. Instead, we’re just spoiled selfish people who want what we want with no consideration for others. In this case, anger is the result of a lack of respect for others. It’s about putting expectations on others with no regard for them. You see, we don’t know why they are driving so slow. Maybe they lost their glasses, maybe they had an accident and are fearful, maybe... the list goes on. Sometimes it’s not about us and we just have to accept that.
I drive 100 miles round trip a day back and forth to work... been doing the drive for 18 years. Trust me, I’ve seen about all of it.
 
humble soul said:
Anger wins. Then we are encouraged to be angry and difficult more often.
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Sad, isn’t it? And we wonder why there is so much hatred in politics. As a society, we’re loosing our family core and becoming more selfish and less giving. Anger makes us feel in control and makes us feel powerful. Our schools teach zero tolerance and if an issue arrises, don’t confront it. Instead, take it to the teacher. Same at work. Don’t confront the individual, instead, take it to the manager.
This only gives the angry person more power. They know that to get their way, they only need to raise their voice because the one who is angriest wins.
Jesus teaches is that we are not to repay evil for evil and he also teaches us to stand up for what is truth.
 
stovebolts said:
Boy oh boy. You really have some sharp opinions, don’t you? lol. and I see you like to argue your own ghosts.

Of course Jesus healed out of compassion. I‘m not sure how you reasoned I said otherwise but I suspect you have a ghost inside your head that is being super imposed onto what I write. Sorry, but I can’t reason with that, so I think our conversation on the matter has come to an end.

enjoy your day.
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I sure do. I don't argue with ghosts.

That's fine. I will.

Quantrill
 
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