Can women teach God's word.

[electedbyHim]

He doesn't even believe the bible he claims to follow.

Pretty sure he has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

He is deceived.



JLB

Can you refute anything he preached? You cannot.

If you watched the sermon and followed along in your Bible, you would see he came straight from Scripture.

Lets agree that those who are for woman pastors (that have no Biblical proof whatsoever) will continue to believe as the culture dictates to them.


It is a pretty bold statement to say someone blasphemed the Spirit and that they are deceived without showing any concrete proof they are.

Please show how this man has blasphemed the Hoy Spirit, also show how he is deceived.

Burden of proof is on you.

 

[JLB]

Can you refute anything he preached? You cannot.

If you watched the sermon and followed along in your Bible, you would see he came straight from Scripture.

Lets agree that those who are for woman pastors (that have no Biblical proof whatsoever) will continue to believe as the culture dictates to them.


It is a pretty bold statement to say someone blasphemed the Spirit and that they are deceived without showing any concrete proof they are.

Please show how this man has blasphemed the Hoy Spirit, also show how he is deceived.

Burden of proof is on you.

False teachers and those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit do not have God.


Those who give heed to such are deceived, and thry are following them to their own peril.

 

[jasonc]

Oh because they or he doesn't buy modern pentacostalism .

 

[electedbyHim]

False teachers and those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit do not have God.


Those who give heed to such are deceived, and thry are following them to their own peril.

So what specifically did he preach that was blasphemous?

I will call you out and say you did not even watch this preacher.

You make a claim, but do not have any ground to stand on. How can I take you seriously?

 

[JLB]

Can you refute anything he preached? You cannot.

Women are called to teach according to God's word.


Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored. Titus 2:3-5

 

[JLB]

So what specifically did he preach that was blasphemous?

I will call you out and say you did not even watch this preacher.

You make a claim, but do not have any ground to stand on. How can I take you seriously?

I said he has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Do you understand what that means?

 

[electedbyHim]

Women are called to teach according to God's word.


Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored. Titus 2:3-5

But he did preach that, if you really watched the sermon.

So how is he blasphemous and deceitful?

 

[electedbyHim]

Crickets!

 

[JLB]

But he did preach that, if you really watched the sermon.

So how is he blasphemous and deceitful?

He blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

He has done this for years, calling those who speak in tongues and heal the sick by the power of the Holy Spirit, agents of the devil.

I won't poison my spirit by listening to someone who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.


JLB

 

[JLB]

If you watched the sermon and followed along in your Bible, you would see he came straight from Scripture.

Why do you need other men and their opinion to prove your point ?

You can quote the scripture you believe supports your position yourself. You don't need to rely on someone's commentary.

 

[jasonc]

He blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

He has done this for years, calling those who speak in tongues and heal the sick by the power of the Holy Spirit, agents of the devil.

I won't poison my spirit by listening to someone who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.


JLB

Why can't woman be apostles ,bishops?


Most pentacostals already allow the bishops to be ladies and in the nar apostles .

 

[electedbyHim]

He blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

He has done this for years, calling those who speak in tongues and heal the sick by the power of the Holy Spirit, agents of the devil.

I won't poison my spirit by listening to someone who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.


JLB

Poison your spirit? Ha.

You make claims about a well known and very Biblically centered man of God and you cannot even show any evidence he is wrong.

Show proof the Pastor is wrong or stand down.

What is so amazing is that no one can present Scriptural facts that state that woman can be Pastors or leaders in the church. Talk about being self-deceived and led by pride.

 

[electedbyHim]

Why do you need other men and their opinion to prove your point ?

You can quote the scripture you believe supports your position yourself. You don't need to rely on someone's commentary.

I have done so multiple times but you cannot answer them. What is wrong with relying on a commentary or sermon if I came to the same conclusion in my own studies. Perhaps you are one of those that believe Christians only need the Holy Spirit to teach them all truth.

You made the claims about the pastor and the video I posted. Do not deflect, show proof he is wrong.

 

[electedbyHim]

Why can't woman be apostles ,bishops?


Most pentacostals already allow the bishops to be ladies and in the nar apostles .

The Pentecostal/charismatics already have woman apostles and bishops and they all teach false deceptive doctrine. Just turn on the tv or check youtube for these charlatans.

 

[jasonc]

The Pentecostal/charismatics already have woman apostles and bishops and they all teach false deceptive doctrine. Just turn on the tv or check youtube for these charlatans.

I was involved that style .not all do.i try not lump them together.

You are reformed,correct .I know the stereotypes and there's truth to them .

My church is reformed .the cofeee during fellowship and service .

Frozen chosen .afraid to lift hands in worship . I have issues with pentacostals over how they can go astray . Yet my elders don't agree with it .the longest serving elder was involved in that type of church for a while and left .he had friends there .my church is tied to my old one because the founder preached at the old one for a few seasons as a guest .he was raised in it and got hurt .he became reformed .he is known as a team builder

 

[electedbyHim]

I was involved that style .not all do.i try not lump them together.

You are reformed,correct .I know the stereotypes and there's truth to them .

My church is reformed .the cofeee during fellowship and service .

Frozen chosen .afraid to lift hands in worship . I have issues with pentacostals over how they can go astray . Yet my elders don't agree with it .the longest serving elder was involved in that type of church for a while and left .he had friends there .my church is tied to my old one because the founder preached at the old one for a few seasons as a guest .he was raised in it and got hurt .he became reformed .he is known as a team builder

I had lived in a homeless shelter that was a Christian based program for about 1.5 years. Many a year ago. It was Pentecostal/charismatic theology. They tried very hard to shame me and recruit me to their ideology and what they believed. I always went to scripture and had access to a library in downtown Cleveland and read commentaries on many of the doctrines that they taught. They tried to lay hands on me, slay me in the spirit and all the nonsense. Told me I am not saved because I did not speak in tongues and that I was not baptized with the Holy Spirit.

The thing that struck me the most about this denomination, is that everything was based on an experience and feelings. You know, if you don't feel the Holy Spirit you don have the Holy Spirit. I never bought into or saw any teaching in Scripture that taught this. All I saw was a bunch of people acting a fool, like little children look at me, look at me. Nothing but pride.

Basically believe our way or your not saved. Never say anything against Gods anointed people. If you call any of them out you are blaspheming. They loved to twist Scripture to fit their theology. The most crazy thing was how they gave Satan sovereignty over God. You, bind him and all that rubbish. They also loved to focus on prophesy and end times doctrines. Which I never understood. I was always focused on God , His attributes, systematic theology, biblical theology, Christian living and dying to self.

We had different churches come in daily to preach and feed us, and we also went to many churches in the surrounding areas. I can certainly tell you some stories about these people. I have seen some satanic stuff, especially with their woman preachers and prophets.

I understand more then I care to admit about Pentecostals/charismatics. I believe we are all sinners and if we seek Gods truth in His word with enough diligence and study, we will find it. I have no ill will towards any of them and met some very good people. I was always praying for them like they were praying for me.

Ok I said enough.

I would not consider myself reformed. I suppose just Bible believing.

Jeff

 

[jasonc]

I had lived in a homeless shelter that was a Christian based program for about 1.5 years. Many a year ago. It was Pentecostal/charismatic theology. They tried very hard to shame me and recruit me to their ideology and what they believed. I always went to scripture and had access to a library in downtown Cleveland and read commentaries on many of the doctrines that they taught. They tried to lay hands on me, slay me in the spirit and all the nonsense. Told me I am not saved because I did not speak in tongues and that I was not baptized with the Holy Spirit.

The thing that struck me the most about this denomination, is that everything was based on an experience and feelings. You know, if you don't feel the Holy Spirit you don have the Holy Spirit. I never bought into or saw any teaching in Scripture that taught this. All I saw was a bunch of people acting a fool, like little children look at me, look at me. Nothing but pride.

Basically believe our way or your not saved. Never say anything against Gods anointed people. If you call any of them out you are blaspheming. They loved to twist Scripture to fit their theology. The most crazy thing was how they gave Satan sovereignty over God. You, bind him and all that rubbish. They also loved to focus on prophesy and end times doctrines. Which I never understood. I was always focused on God , His attributes, systematic theology, biblical theology, Christian living and dying to self.

We had different churches come in daily to preach and feed us, and we also went to many churches in the surrounding areas. I can certainly tell you some stories about these people. I have seen some satanic stuff, especially with their woman preachers and prophets.

I understand more then I care to admit about Pentecostals/charismatics. I believe we are all sinners and if we seek Gods truth in His word with enough diligence and study, we will find it. I have no ill will towards any of them and met some very good people. I was always praying for them like they were praying for me.

Ok I said enough.

I would not consider myself reformed. I suppose just Bible believing.

Jeff

Bad type ,the ones teach you must have the baptism to be saved .

The indwelling of the Spirit isn't such that one speaks in tongues .but that you have Holiness .the account in acts was interpretation ,one of the gifts .that's also been a debate since the Azusa revival.i know some will disagree .


Emotionalism is a big problem for that group .my emotions swing way to much to be trusted.

 

[jasonc]

I had lived in a homeless shelter that was a Christian based program for about 1.5 years. Many a year ago. It was Pentecostal/charismatic theology. They tried very hard to shame me and recruit me to their ideology and what they believed. I always went to scripture and had access to a library in downtown Cleveland and read commentaries on many of the doctrines that they taught. They tried to lay hands on me, slay me in the spirit and all the nonsense. Told me I am not saved because I did not speak in tongues and that I was not baptized with the Holy Spirit.

The thing that struck me the most about this denomination, is that everything was based on an experience and feelings. You know, if you don't feel the Holy Spirit you don have the Holy Spirit. I never bought into or saw any teaching in Scripture that taught this. All I saw was a bunch of people acting a fool, like little children look at me, look at me. Nothing but pride.

Basically believe our way or your not saved. Never say anything against Gods anointed people. If you call any of them out you are blaspheming. They loved to twist Scripture to fit their theology. The most crazy thing was how they gave Satan sovereignty over God. You, bind him and all that rubbish. They also loved to focus on prophesy and end times doctrines. Which I never understood. I was always focused on God , His attributes, systematic theology, biblical theology, Christian living and dying to self.

We had different churches come in daily to preach and feed us, and we also went to many churches in the surrounding areas. I can certainly tell you some stories about these people. I have seen some satanic stuff, especially with their woman preachers and prophets.

I understand more then I care to admit about Pentecostals/charismatics. I believe we are all sinners and if we seek Gods truth in His word with enough diligence and study, we will find it. I have no ill will towards any of them and met some very good people. I was always praying for them like they were praying for me.

Ok I said enough.

I would not consider myself reformed. I suppose just Bible believing.

Jeff

I understand why those like you reject pentacostalism and others .

Given how often they often seem confusing with this.

God is felt rather then telt( black low church say this ,I know I went to many and take photos of the old ones I went to as I read their meters )
If you aren't being healed you are in sin ,healthy or wealthy .though not confined to them.
Healing promises no matter what the Bible says no such thing .you aren't promised tommorow.

 

[electedbyHim]

I understand why those like you reject pentacostalism and others .

Given how often they often seem confusing with this.

God is felt rather then telt( black low church say this ,I know I went to many and take photos of the old ones I went to as I read their meters )
If you aren't being healed you are in sin ,healthy or wealthy .though not confined to them.
Healing promises no matter what the Bible says no such thing .you aren't promised tommorow.

Many preach I could lose my salvation for various things. Not persevering, sin, this and that. No where in scripture does it say I can lose my salvation. If I had to depend on my self to maintain my salvation I might as well be locked up in a psyche ward for depression and insanity.

Yes they say Jesus wants you healthy, wealthy and have a better self image of yourself. I remember a few taunting me because they said I needed to forgive myself and to love myself. I mean, Jesus Christ forgave me of my sins, who am I that I can forgive myself. Love myself? I see the ugliness of sin and evil of this wretched man. I just laugh at this. Look at Paul's own self image, O wretched man that I am.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[jasonc]

Many preach I could lose my salvation for various things. Not persevering, sin, this and that. No where in scripture does it say I can lose my salvation. If I had to depend on my self to maintain my salvation I might as well be locked up in a psyche ward for depression and insanity.

Yes they say Jesus wants you healthy, wealthy and have a better self image of yourself. I remember a few taunting me because they said I needed to forgive myself and to love myself. I mean, Jesus Christ forgave me of my sins, who am I that I can forgive myself. Love myself? I see the ugliness of sin and evil of this wretched man. I just laugh at this. Look at Paul's own self image, O wretched man that I am.

Grace and peace to you.

With PTSD that is battle .we hate who we are and have lost purpose .

Most wordly say and it's not bad that we should love ourselves but we'll God sees sin and doesn't love that and wants it gone .

There is a balence. I can't say I found it .


Vanity ,vanity all is vanity . That is my preset I start at . Yet I must remind myself that God is the source .not my blessings though he does give them to us and we should be thankful .