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Can women teach God's word.
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An 18 years old May still live at home.
When did Jesus leave home?
She is teaching him godly principles.
I am not conforming to the present world. That is nonsense. I am following the ways of God via the Holy Spirit.
You are conforming to the present world by denying that women are equal in Christ and have faith, knowledge, and wisdom as strong as any man's. To deny them anything in Christ is from Satan.
You're equating teaching with usurping authority, which is nonsense. Again, Jesus chose women to a) announce the arrival of the Messiah and b) announce His resurrection. Is that "usurping authority" to you? They were chosen by God!
Tenchi
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Yes. Again, in such a case, is his mother acting as her son's pastor, teaching him from such a role, his spiritual authority in the sense in which an Elder/Pastor would be? That would be rather odd, wouldn't it? Really odd, actually. And if she was, she'd be doing so contrary to the explicit command of God's word. Certainly, a mother ought to exhort her children to righteousness, demonstrate the character of Christ in her conduct, and help her kids establish good spiritual habits. But instructing them from the role of Pastor is forbidden.
I'm sure he left home often. And then came back. Just like you and I do every day. :wink
Does the Bible indicate when, exactly, Jesus left home to live alone as an independent adult? I don't recall Scripture saying anything about this...
Yes. Again, in such a case, is his mother acting as her son's pastor, teaching him from such a role, his spiritual authority in the sense in which an Elder/Pastor would be? That would be rather odd, wouldn't it? Really odd, actually. And if she was, she'd be doing so contrary to the explicit command of God's word. Certainly, a mother ought to exhort her children to righteousness, demonstrate the character of Christ in her conduct, and help her kids establish good spiritual habits. But instructing them from the role of Pastor is forbidden.
I'm sure he left home often. And then came back. Just like you and I do every day. :wink
Does the Bible indicate when, exactly, Jesus left home to live alone as an independent adult? I don't recall Scripture saying anything about this...
Can you spell "legalism"? A pastor's role is equivalent to tending a flock, which is exactly what mothers do. You're too caught up in legalism to understand the principle.
Tenchi
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Yes. Do you know what the term means?
There are superficial similarities. But what a Pastor/Elder does is distinctly different from the role a mother fulfills. Which is why a Pastor is not called a church-Mother, or some such thing. A Pastor/Elder is not a parent of biological progeny but a spiritual "overseer" of a local community of believers (1 Timothy 3:1-7); he is a teacher and defender of God's truth, discerning and casting out the "leaven" of sin from that community (1 Corinthians 5), equipping his congregation to perceive and reject false teaching (Ephesians 4:11-16; 1 Timothy 4:1-2; Acts 15; Acts 20:27-31; 1 Timothy 5:17, etc.); he is a preacher of the Gospel and a discipler, by long and careful daily study of Scripture, making himself an expert in matters of the Christian faith, by frequent prayer upholding the community of saints over which he has spiritual authority (Acts 6:4; Ephesians 6:18); he is a man whose personal experience of God is prolonged and profound. But a Pastor/Elder in his role as such doesn't change his congregants diapers, or arrange to have them babysat, or daily cook them "three squares," or give his congregants baths, or tuck them in at night. No, his role is not to be a mother to his people, but their spiritual leader, teacher and protector.
Labels are handy - when you run out of reasoned argument.
If their home is a church as was the case in the first Century.
A mother is definitely a spiritual authority over her son.
Especially if there is no father.
Tenchi
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The Bible doesn't say. None of the Gospels indicate that just before he began his three-year "ministry," concluding with his resurrection, that Jesus was living at home with his folks.
There were local communities of believers that met in homes, yes, but a single biological family of believers is not the circumstance over which a Pastor/Elder was appointed, in the record of Scripture.
I agree a mother has authority over her son as his biological parent and caregiver, but she doesn't have spiritual authority over him in the way a Pastor/Elder has. She wouldn't have power, for example, to expel him from a local community of believers by the sort of fiat Paul issued to the Corinthian believers (1 Corinthians 5). No mother in the time of the Early Church was called to participate in the "summit" of Apostles and Elders described in Acts 15 in recognition of her spiritual authority over her own children. Nor is any mother, simply because she is a mother who teaches her children about the faith, legitimately able to establish a list of commands to all Gentile believers, like that which the summit in Acts 15 issued to all Gentile believers in the Early Church. A mother may exhort her son spiritually, and teach him the doctrines of the faith, and live before him as an example of Christ, but there are things reserved to a Pastor/Elder role in which she clearly can't - and shouldn't - participate.
You can't own a weapon in my state until 21 that is a rifle .
Can't rent a car ,can't start a 401 series retirement,drink .
So in parts 18 isn't adulthood .
Single parenting isn't pastoring a flock
Otherwise
If any women desires to be a bishop she must be a women of one wife .
She must rule her house hold well .etc .
Now,kindly say how I didn't twist scripture or did as a pastor ,is the same word for bishop etc .
Can't rent a car ,can't start a 401 series retirement,drink .
So in parts 18 isn't adulthood .
Single parenting isn't pastoring a flock
Otherwise
If any women desires to be a bishop she must be a women of one wife .
She must rule her house hold well .etc .
Now,kindly say how I didn't twist scripture or did as a pastor ,is the same word for bishop etc .
It is the present world that tries to confer power to women over men.
That is not of God.
They have all of that, but not permission to have power over men.
It is written..."But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." (1 Tim 2:12)
satan doesn't like that idea from God.
he wants his first conquest, woman, to be the leadership of men.
I agree when you run out of reasoned argument. You are caught up in erroneous legalism. There is no reason why women can't teach God's word (the OP subject). You are just employing legalism to justify male dominance. Very sad! I have zero respect for you and others like you who think that dominance is Scriptural.
"It is the present world that tries to confer power to women over men. That is not of God." is your opinion only. You just want men to have power over women. You are obviously wrong.
Good bye. I am done. You are being led into falsity by your doctrine.
That was a wonderful post.
Welcome to the site.
Christians follow the orders of God.
God is the head of Christ.
Christ is the head of the man.
Man is the head of the woman. (1 Cor 11:3)
Nobody can "take" power, as it must be given.
I will not give power to women in a teaching capacity over me.
I wonder why you would?
Why are you so eager to serve women when it is so unbiblical?
"My" doctrine, with scriptural backing.