Christ was formed in the beginning of creation by Yahwah.

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Christ had no Father until Yahwah adopted him.

Beginning of days without end of life

This is how it should read:
Hebrews 7:3
Without father or mother, without genealogy, beginning of days without end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

Based on what? Please provide evidence of this translation, especially when the Greek states, "Without father without mother without genealogy neither beginning of days nor of life end...". You really need to start providing evidence for your claims and personal translations.

Yahshua was created by Yahwah our Father.
Proverbs 8:23
I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

First, you have to show that Prov 8 actually refers to Jesus. Second, "formed" is not the best word choice, as nasak means "to pour out" or "to cast," in the case of metal. The new NIV misses the mark on this; the 1984 NIV was better:

Pro 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began.

So, if it does refer to Jesus, it is not saying that he was created.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
Joh 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
...
Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known. (NIV 1984)

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
...
Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known. (ESV)

It is very clear that John believes Jesus is God, but not the Father, and is equal to him. Both the Father and the Son (and Holy Spirit) have always existed; there never was a time when all three didn't exist. That is the teaching of the Bible.

 

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Christ had no Father until Yahwah adopted him.

Beginning of days without end of life

This is how it should read:
Hebrews 7:3
Without father or mother, without genealogy, beginning of days without end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.


Yahshua was created by Yahwah our Father.
Proverbs 8:23
I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

Instead of saying this is how it should read why not give us the version of the Bible you use so we can look up those one liners you like to use. I have the KJV and the NIV and it does not read like you say it does. What is the name of the Bible you use.

 

[CherubRam]

Instead of saying this is how it should read why not give us the version of the Bible you use so we can look up those one liners you like to use. I have the KJV and the NIV and it does not read like you say it does. What is the name of the Bible you use.

Since Yahshua has a beginning in Proverbs 8:23, then it is logical to conclude that he had a beginning in Hebrews 7:3.

Also, Yahwah is the Father of creation, and Yahshua is the Father of no one, nor is he his own father.
Here is the correct translation.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: And the government shall be upon his shoulders: And he shall be called Wonderful Counselor of the Mighty God and Everlasting Father; (שַׂר / minister-ing) in peace.

שַׂר minister

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Since Yahshua has a beginning in Proverbs 8:23, then it is logical to conclude that he had a beginning in Hebrews 7:3.

Also, Yahwah is the Father of creation, and Yahshua is the Father of no one, nor is he his own father.
Here is the correct translation.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: And the government shall be upon his shoulders: And he shall be called Wonderful Counselor of the Mighty God and Everlasting Father; (שַׂר / minister-ing) in peace.

שַׂר minister

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That link doesn't show anything of what you are saying. It's sad that you can not see the clear picture in John 1:1-28.

You still have not told us what Bible you are using so we can compare the scriptures you give as the KJV nor the older NIV does not contain the words "of the"

 

[CherubRam]

That link doesn't show anything of what you are saying. It's sad that you can not see the clear picture in John 1:1-28.

You still have not told us what Bible you are using so we can compare the scriptures you give as the KJV nor the older NIV does not contain the words "of the"

Proverbs 8:23
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23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

 

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Proverbs 8:23​

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23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

Cherry picking just one verse without the knowledge of the full context can make anyone try to make scripture fit their theories. Proverbs Chapter eight, which was written by King Solomon, is referencing Jesus before the foundation of the world as He has no beginning and no end. John 1:1-28 explains this even further. Chapter 8 describes Jesus as His humanity and Deity.

 

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Since Yahshua has a beginning in Proverbs 8:23, then it is logical to conclude that he had a beginning in Hebrews 7:3.

You first have to prove 1) that Prov 8:23 is speaking of Jesus and 2) that the modern NIV has a correct translation, which I've already addressed.

And, no, it is not logical to conclude that Jesus had a beginning according to Heb 7:3. I've already addressed this as well:

The Greek states, "Without father without mother without genealogy neither beginning of days nor of life end...".

You have a very bad and destructive habit of changing the text of verses to say what you want, instead of letting them say what they say. That is eisegesis, not exegesis, and will lead you into error 100% of the time. Not to mention that Heb 1:10-12 has the Father saying of the Son:

Heb 1:10 He also says, "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
Heb 1:11 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
Heb 1:12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end." (ESV)

Which, as I've pointed out before, is a quote from Psalm 102:25-27, which is a Psalm speaking of Yahweh:

Psa 102:25 In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
Psa 102:26 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded.
Psa 102:27 But you remain the same, and your years will never end. (ESV)

How is it that the Father can say that a Psalm about Yahweh applies to his Son, if the Son was created, if he isn't God?

Also, Yahwah is the Father of creation, and Yahshua is the Father of no one, nor is he his own father.
Here is the correct translation.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: And the government shall be upon his shoulders: And he shall be called Wonderful Counselor of the Mighty God and Everlasting Father; (שַׂר / minister-ing) in peace.

שַׂר minister

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Evidence. Where is the evidence? Where is a Bible translation or legitimate scholar that supports your translation?

Proverbs 8:23​

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23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

Again, this has already been dealt with: https://christianforums.net/threads...-creation-by-yahwah.99703/page-6#post-1807486

'First, you have to show that Prov 8 actually refers to Jesus. Second, "formed" is not the best word choice, as nasak means "to pour out" or "to cast," in the case of metal. The new NIV misses the mark on this; the 1984 NIV was better:

Pro 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began.'

Referring to many versions will give you a better understanding. Selecting one version which happens to support your belief is not a good way to come to an understanding of scripture.

 

[CherubRam]

Cherry picking just one verse without the knowledge of the full context can make anyone try to make scripture fit their theories. Proverbs Chapter eight, which was written by King Solomon, is referencing Jesus before the foundation of the world as He has no beginning and no end. John 1:1-28 explains this even further. Chapter 8 describes Jesus as His humanity and Deity.

God (Yahwah) created all things, therefore nothing exist unless God created it. Yahshua said he was created. Even Yahwah our Heavenly Father had a beginning.

Isaiah 43:10. NIV
“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Proverbs 8:23. NIV​

23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

 

[CherubRam]

You first have to prove 1) that Prov 8:23 is speaking of Jesus and 2) that the modern NIV has a correct translation, which I've already addressed.

And, no, it is not logical to conclude that Jesus had a beginning according to Heb 7:3. I've already addressed this as well:

The Greek states, "Without father without mother without genealogy neither beginning of days nor of life end...".

You have a very bad and destructive habit of changing the text of verses to say what you want, instead of letting them say what they say. That is eisegesis, not exegesis, and will lead you into error 100% of the time. Not to mention that Heb 1:10-12 has the Father saying of the Son:

Heb 1:10 He also says, "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
Heb 1:11 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
Heb 1:12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end." (ESV)

Which, as I've pointed out before, is a quote from Psalm 102:25-27, which is a Psalm speaking of Yahweh:

Psa 102:25 In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
Psa 102:26 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded.
Psa 102:27 But you remain the same, and your years will never end. (ESV)

How is it that the Father can say that a Psalm about Yahweh applies to his Son, if the Son was created, if he isn't God?


Evidence. Where is the evidence? Where is a Bible translation or legitimate scholar that supports your translation?


Again, this has already been dealt with: https://christianforums.net/threads...-creation-by-yahwah.99703/page-6#post-1807486

'First, you have to show that Prov 8 actually refers to Jesus. Second, "formed" is not the best word choice, as nasak means "to pour out" or "to cast," in the case of metal. The new NIV misses the mark on this; the 1984 NIV was better:

Pro 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began.'

Referring to many versions will give you a better understanding. Selecting one version which happens to support your belief is not a good way to come to an understanding of scripture.

Pay attention to bold print and comments.

Christ is a created being according to the bible

Proverbs 8:23
I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
Christ was formed in the beginning of creation by Yahwah.

Christ Pre-existed.
John 6:41
At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.”

John 6:42
They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’ ?”

John 8:42
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

John 8:58
“Very truly I tell you,” Yahshua answered, “before Abraham was born, I existed!”

John 10:36
what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

John 17:5
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:24
“Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.







Proverbs 8
1 Does not wisdom call out?
Does not understanding raise her voice?
2 At the highest point along the way,
where the paths meet, she takes her stand;
3 beside the gate leading into the city,
at the entrance, she cries aloud:
4 “To you, O people, I call out;
I raise my voice to all mankind.
5 You who are simple, gain prudence;
you who are foolish, set your hearts on it.
6 Listen, for I have trustworthy things to say;
I open my lips to speak what is right.
7 My mouth speaks what is true,
for my lips detest wickedness.
8 All the words of my mouth are just;
none of them is crooked or perverse.
9 To the discerning all of them are right;
they are upright to those who have found knowledge.
10 Choose my instruction instead of silver,
knowledge rather than choice gold,
11 for wisdom is more precious than rubies,
and nothing you desire can compare with her.
12 “I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence;
I possess knowledge and discretion.
(See Isaiah 11:2.)
13 To fear the Lord is to hate evil;
I hate pride and arrogance,
evil behavior and perverse speech.
14 Counsel and sound judgment are mine;
I have insight, I have power.
15 By me kings reign
and rulers issue decrees that are just;
16 by me princes govern,
and nobles—all who rule on earth.
17 I love those who love me,
and those who seek me find me.
18 With me are riches and honor,
enduring wealth and prosperity.
19 My fruit is better than fine gold;
what I yield surpasses choice silver.
20 I walk in the way of righteousness,
along the paths of justice,
21 bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me
and making their treasuries full.
22 “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.
32 “Now then, my children, listen to me;
blessed are those who keep my ways.
33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
do not disregard it.
34 Blessed are those who listen to me,
watching daily at my doors,
waiting at my doorway.
35 For those who find me find life
and receive favor from the Lord.
36 But those who fail to find me harm themselves;
all who hate me love death.”


"Messiah of Aaron and Israel." Priest and nation, Knowledge and wisdom.
Dead Sea Scrolls: The Damascus Rule.#6. "But God remembered the Covenant with the forefathers, and He raised from Aaron men of discernment and from Israel men of wisdom,"


The Community Rule (1QS) D.S.S. #9. "until there shall come the prophet and Messiah of Aaron and Israel".

Aaron and Israel: Aaron was the high priest of the nation Israel.


Yahshua is the Messiah of Aaron and Israel.
Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD...

Luke 2:40-47. 40. And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon him. 47. Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers.

1Cor 1:30. It is because of him that you are in Messiah Yahshua, who has become for us wisdom from God...

Colossians 2
1I want you to know how much I am struggling for you and for those at Laodicea, and for all who have not met me personally. 2My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, 3in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD -

 

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God (Yahwah) created all things, therefore nothing exist unless God created it. Yahshua said he was created. Even Yahwah our Heavenly Father had a beginning.

Utter blasphemy.

Isaiah 43:10. NIV
“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Proverbs 8:23. NIV​

23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

You know how to use bolding. Good for you, but you haven't proven anything.

Pay attention to bold print and comments.

Christ is a created being according to the bible

Proverbs 8:23
I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
Christ was formed in the beginning of creation by Yahwah.

Christ Pre-existed.
John 6:41
At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.”

John 6:42
They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’ ?”

John 8:42
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

John 8:58
“Very truly I tell you,” Yahshua answered, “before Abraham was born, I existed!”

John 10:36
what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

John 17:5
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:24
“Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.







Proverbs 8
1 Does not wisdom call out?
Does not understanding raise her voice?
2 At the highest point along the way,
where the paths meet, she takes her stand;
3 beside the gate leading into the city,
at the entrance, she cries aloud:
4 “To you, O people, I call out;
I raise my voice to all mankind.
5 You who are simple, gain prudence;
you who are foolish, set your hearts on it.
6 Listen, for I have trustworthy things to say;
I open my lips to speak what is right.
7 My mouth speaks what is true,
for my lips detest wickedness.
8 All the words of my mouth are just;
none of them is crooked or perverse.
9 To the discerning all of them are right;
they are upright to those who have found knowledge.
10 Choose my instruction instead of silver,
knowledge rather than choice gold,
11 for wisdom is more precious than rubies,
and nothing you desire can compare with her.
12 “I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence;
I possess knowledge and discretion.
(See Isaiah 11:2.)
13 To fear the Lord is to hate evil;
I hate pride and arrogance,
evil behavior and perverse speech.
14 Counsel and sound judgment are mine;
I have insight, I have power.
15 By me kings reign
and rulers issue decrees that are just;
16 by me princes govern,
and nobles—all who rule on earth.
17 I love those who love me,
and those who seek me find me.
18 With me are riches and honor,
enduring wealth and prosperity.
19 My fruit is better than fine gold;
what I yield surpasses choice silver.
20 I walk in the way of righteousness,
along the paths of justice,
21 bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me
and making their treasuries full.
22 “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.
32 “Now then, my children, listen to me;
blessed are those who keep my ways.
33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
do not disregard it.
34 Blessed are those who listen to me,
watching daily at my doors,
waiting at my doorway.
35 For those who find me find life
and receive favor from the Lord.
36 But those who fail to find me harm themselves;
all who hate me love death.”


"Messiah of Aaron and Israel." Priest and nation, Knowledge and wisdom.
Dead Sea Scrolls: The Damascus Rule.#6. "But God remembered the Covenant with the forefathers, and He raised from Aaron men of discernment and from Israel men of wisdom,"


The Community Rule (1QS) D.S.S. #9. "until there shall come the prophet and Messiah of Aaron and Israel".

Aaron and Israel: Aaron was the high priest of the nation Israel.


Yahshua is the Messiah of Aaron and Israel.
Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD...

Luke 2:40-47. 40. And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon him. 47. Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers.

1Cor 1:30. It is because of him that you are in Messiah Yahshua, who has become for us wisdom from God...

Colossians 2
1I want you to know how much I am struggling for you and for those at Laodicea, and for all who have not met me personally. 2My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, 3in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD -

Again, you are making connections where there are none and making numerous assumptions which you have never proven.

 

[for_his_glory]

God (Yahwah) created all things, therefore nothing exist unless God created it. Yahshua said he was created. Even Yahwah our Heavenly Father had a beginning.

Isaiah 43:10. NIV
“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Proverbs 8:23. NIV​

23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.

You just go right ahead with your cherry picking scriptures in order to make them line up with your own theories. I am not buying this and also how you reject the scriptures that have been given you in the full context. Many of these newer translations like the newest NIV (not the older version) add to and take away from that which has already been written.

Scriptures that reference Jesus being referred to as God:
John 1:1-14; John 10:30; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8, 9; 1 John 5:7, 8, 20; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 2 Corinthians 3:17; 13:14; Isaiah 9:6; 44:6; Luke 1:35; Matthew 1:23; 28:19; John 14:16, 17; Genesis 1:1, 2 (cross reference John 1:1-14); 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; Ephesians 4:4-6; Colossians 1:15-17; John 14:9-11; Philippians 2:5-8; Rev 1:8

 

[CherubRam]

Brains and trains.

 

[for_his_glory]

Brains and trains.

 

[Free]

Brains and trains.

What does that even mean?

 

[CherubRam]

Yahwah the maker of all things

Ecclesiastes 11:5
As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother’s womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things.

Isaiah 44:24
“This is what (the Lord / Yahwah) says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am (the Lord / Yahwah,) the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself,

Jeremiah 10:16
He who is the Portion of Jacob is not like these, for he is the Maker of all things, including Israel, the people of his inheritance— (the Lord / Yahwah) Almighty is his name.

Jeremiah 51:19
He who is the Portion of Jacob is not like these, for he is the Maker of all things, including the people of his inheritance— (the Lord / Yahwah) Almighty is his name.

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came

Ephesians 3:9
and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.

Revelation 4:11
“You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.”


Yahshua said:
Matthew 19:4
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’

Mark 10:6
“But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’

Mark 13:19
because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again.

 

[CherubRam]

So why is there scriptures that make Yahshua equal to Yahwah?


Pope is God on Earth

April 30, 1922, Pope Pius XI said, “You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on Earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am god on Earth.” Revelation Four Views, A Parallel Commentary. pg 288

“God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priest, and either not to pardon or to pardon according as they refuse or give absolution.---The sentence of the priest precedes, and God subscribes to it.” Dignities and Duties of the Priest, Vol 12, pg 27.


“The Pope has power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ.” Decretal De Translot Espiscop Cap


Pope Nicholas I declared: "the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who, being God, cannot be judged by man."
Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can. 7, Satis evidentur, Decret Gratian Primer Para

"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh."
Catholic National, July 1895

"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty"
Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894

 

[CherubRam]

Yahwah the Holy Spirit is in Yahshua.

John 14:10
Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

John 14:11
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

Acts 2:22
“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

Hebrews 2:4
God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

 

[CherubRam]

Utter blasphemy.


You know how to use bolding. Good for you, but you haven't proven anything.


Again, you are making connections where there are none and making numerous assumptions which you have never proven.

Your idea of blasphemy is picular.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. (Yahwah, The Father.)

 

[Free]

Your idea of blasphemy is picular.

I assume you meant "peculiar." How so?

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. (Yahwah, The Father.)

What is this addressing?

 

[CherubRam]

I assume you meant "peculiar." How so?


What is this addressing?

I quoted scriptures, and gave some Papal history, and for that you accused me of blasphemy.