could Jerusalem be the harlot?

[Shilohsfoal]

I served as a Marine during Beirut and Grenada. Showing my age? ;)

Regards

A bit from my notes.

Daniel11;7-8
But out of her roots shall one (Imad Fayez Mughiyah -Hezbollah)stand up in his estate,which shall come with an army,and shall enter into the fortress (US embassy and barracks ,Beirut 1983)of the king of the north,and shall deal against them,and shall prevail;
And shall also carry captives into Egypt (TWA flight 847-1985)thier gods,with thier prnces,and with thier precious vessels of silver and gold;and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.
Imad Fayez Mughniyah died feb 12,2008
Ronald Reagon died june 5,2004

While I appreciate your attempting to tie my meager service to something related to God's ultimate destiny of the end times, I am hardly convinced by this interpretation - the Marine barracks was blown up from the outside, not "entered into". Nor are we the "Kingdom of the North". Nor did the Muslims "carry anyone off into captivity" from the barracks...

I think people try too hard to read into these prophesies, in my personal opinion.

Regards

I didnt say anyone was carried off from the barracks.Do you not know history?

It appears not.

 

[francisdesales]

I didnt say anyone was carried off from the barracks.Do you not know history?

It appears not.

LOL! You are funny.

Read the Scripture citation again. It says they ALSO carried captives into Egypt, refering to those who "entered" into enemy territory.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I didnt say anyone was carried off from the barracks.Do you not know history?

It appears not.

LOL! You are funny.

Read the Scripture citation again. It says they ALSO carried captives into Egypt, refering to those who "entered" into enemy territory.

The guy who orderd the bombing of the barracks also carried captives into Egypt.Not only this,he also continued more years than Reagan.
I read it already and reserched it as I have with the scriptures pertaining to both Iraqi wars.
lol

 

[francisdesales]

I didnt say anyone was carried off from the barracks.Do you not know history?

It appears not.

LOL! You are funny.

Read the Scripture citation again. It says they ALSO carried captives into Egypt, refering to those who "entered" into enemy territory.

The guy who orderd the bombing of the barracks also carried captives into Egypt.Not only this,he also continued more years than Reagan.
I read it already and reserched it as I have with the scriptures pertaining to both Iraqi wars.
lol

Not to be a PITA, but the Scriptures say that captives were taken from the fortress. No Marine or Sailor was taken to Egypt from the Marine Barracks... And a Barracks is not exactly a fortress...Nothing about the leader who stayed behind taking captives. Those who entered the fortress took captives. The Shite bomber didn't survive...

Like I said, to me, it's not a worthwhile endeavor to attempt to force the "prophesies" into today's newspaper stories... It just breeds anxiety.

Regards

 

[Shilohsfoal]

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Not to be a PITA, but the Scriptures say that captives were taken from the fortress.
Regards

Daniel11;7-8
But out of her roots shall one stand up in his estate,which shall come with an army,and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north,and shall deal against them,and shall prevail;
And shall also carry captives into Egypt ,thier gods,with thier prnces,and with thier precious vessels of silver and gold;and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.


It doesnt say where the captives were taken from.Only that he also carry captives into Egypt.
Ive been into this long before you ever set eyes on it.Not only this but the entire chapter.Theres nothing you can say or do to change anything.There are things I understand before they take place.You say these prophecies fail but for the 12 years Ive been watching them ,they are dead on.Prepare to pay more taxes.

 

[jasoncran]

joe quit while you are ahead. he isnt listening. and you are rather ancient. beirut was in 83 and grenada was 84. i wasnt even out of grade school then.

good a christain that understand militant islam. and the need to show them the business end of a weapon.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

joe quit while you are ahead. he isnt listening. and you are rather ancient. beirut was in 83 and grenada was 84. i wasnt even out of grade school then.

good a christain that understand militant islam. and the need to show them the business end of a weapon.

If Im not mistaken,the king of the north doesnt care for the muslim nations.
Have you read the last part of chapter 11?Like a whirlwind,

 

[jasoncran]

i dont try to put the names of any nation in the prophecy unless it plainy stated or its revealed.

i used to think that america was the great babylon, could we be, maybe, but theres some room to say no.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

i dont try to put the names of any nation in the prophecy unless it plainy stated or its revealed.

i used to think that america was the great babylon, could we be, maybe, but theres some room to say no.

I used to think so but not any more.Some of the things Jesus said pointed me toward Jerusalem so I lookled in that direction.What I found was much more than I thought I would find.Seems most of the things Jesus said in the gospel is toward the jewish christians there not just 2000 years ago but to those who are there now.The more I read about it the more Ive learned the jewish rabis of judaism will cause the people to turn more against the christian jews in that land,like it was 2000 years but worse this time.

Luke 21;12
But before all these,they shall lay their hands on you,and persecute you,delivering you up to the synagogues,and into prisons,being brought before kings and rulers for my sake.

Little things such as this tell alot.I dont know any place in the world where anyone would deliver a saint up to a synagogue except in Israel.Jesus is talking to the christian in Judea here.When I excepted that not everything was ment for me ,I understood who he is speaking too.

 

[jasoncran]

hmm let them think are all christian persecuted by the jews only? islam isnt in that one, yet were killed by them the hindus, buddhists, toaists, and others.

the early church faced that. does the jews of today do this? hmm i will call the local temple and aks them where the dungeon. we have a local temple. two to be exact. one is call temple beit shalom.

i have thought of even seing how my ancestors did things in the diaspora, i was never raised in the temple, though i have been to hebrew service for my relatives of my uncle and grandpa. and catholics were there.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

hmm let them think are all christian persecuted by the jews only? islam isnt in that one, yet were killed by them the hindus, buddhists, toaists, and others.

the early church faced that. does the jews of today do this? hmm i will call the local temple and aks them where the dungeon. we have a local temple. two to be exact. one is call temple beit shalom.

i have thought of even seing how my ancestors did things in the diaspora, i was never raised in the temple, though i have been to hebrew service for my relatives of my uncle and grandpa. and catholics were there.

But Jesus isnt talking about the first century in this verse.Read the verse in context of the chapter and you will see he is talking about the time of the end.The verse before this is talking about great earthquakes,famines,pestilences,and grwat signs from the heavens.I have a question for you.
Tell me what you think of the law that was passed in Israel on christmas day 1977?

 

[jasoncran]

hmm let them think are all christian persecuted by the jews only? islam isnt in that one, yet were killed by them the hindus, buddhists, toaists, and others.

the early church faced that. does the jews of today do this? hmm i will call the local temple and aks them where the dungeon. we have a local temple. two to be exact. one is call temple beit shalom.

i have thought of even seing how my ancestors did things in the diaspora, i was never raised in the temple, though i have been to hebrew service for my relatives of my uncle and grandpa. and catholics were there.

But Jesus isnt talking about the first century in this verse.Read the verse in context of the chapter and you will see he is talking about the time of the end.The verse before this is talking about great earthquakes,famines,pestilences,and grwat signs from the heavens.I have a question for you.
Tell me what you think of the law that was passed in Israel on christmas day 1977?

uhm the apostles then thought they were in the last days. hmm there was earthquakes and such like then to.but what the the writer of hebrews know.


post a link to that law. odd since isreal is allowing arab christian into city of jerusalem to celebrate easter.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

hmm let them think are all christian persecuted by the jews only? islam isnt in that one, yet were killed by them the hindus, buddhists, toaists, and others.

the early church faced that. does the jews of today do this? hmm i will call the local temple and aks them where the dungeon. we have a local temple. two to be exact. one is call temple beit shalom.

i have thought of even seing how my ancestors did things in the diaspora, i was never raised in the temple, though i have been to hebrew service for my relatives of my uncle and grandpa. and catholics were there.

But Jesus isnt talking about the first century in this verse.Read the verse in context of the chapter and you will see he is talking about the time of the end.The verse before this is talking about great earthquakes,famines,pestilences,and grwat signs from the heavens.I have a question for you.
Tell me what you think of the law that was passed in Israel on christmas day 1977?

uhm the apostles then thought they were in the last days. hmm there was earthquakes and such like then to.but what the the writer of hebrews know.


post a link to that law. odd since isreal is allowing arab christian into city of jerusalem to celebrate easter.

The law made christmas day 1977 is the anti missionary law.You ever heard of it?

 

[jasoncran]

repealed. missionary go there all the time. i have heard them on the radio. they are openly allowed.

me thinks you have something against the nation of isreal. hmm
takes one to knew one, the difference is i repented.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

repealed. missionary go there all the time. i have heard them on the radio. they are openly allowed.

me thinks you have something against the nation of isreal. hmm
takes one to knew one, the difference is i repented.

Repenting is a huge difference.
Not a little one.I dont have anything against the people of Israel .I just understand most of the things Jesus spoke of pertains to them.Both the good and the bad.I understand I will not be persecuted as those christians in Judea will.At the time of thier persecution ,Jesus told me I cant go there.Not that I really want to at that time.But I still feal sorry for them.I hope they are prepared.

 

[jasoncran]

no it seems that you have preclusion to assume that all of isreal will partake in the persecution of christian or is the great babylon whore.

when i spoke of repentence , i used to have mixed feeling about isreal, since i am not born of a jewish woman i'm not hebrew by orthodoxy. i took issue with that for yrs even after salvation. my mom is rcc gentile. i dont see isreal as the bad guy in the end times but rather the victim of the antichrist. they will repent and follow christ and be used in the millienial reign,

tell me why do the jews pray in isreal with the flag? the very name of house of david? they are praying for return of the Lord

the star of david is missing the vah,a t shape cross, the two daleths one pointing up and other is pointing down and the cross is in the middle. man looking a god and god looking at man with the lord cruficied in the middle.

interesting when you look at the isreali flag.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

no it seems that you have preclusion to assume that all of isreal will partake in the persecution of christian or is the great babylon whore.

when i spoke of repentence , i used to have mixed feeling about isreal, since i am not born of a jewish woman i'm not hebrew by orthodoxy. i took issue with that for yrs even after salvation. my mom is rcc gentile. i dont see isreal as the bad guy in the end times but rather the victim of the antichrist. they will repent and follow christ and be used in the millienial reign,

tell me why do the jews pray in isreal with the flag? the very name of house of david? they are praying for return of the Lord

the star of david is missing the vah,a t shape cross, the two daleths one pointing up and other is pointing down and the cross is in the middle. man looking a god and god looking at man with the lord cruficied in the middle.

interesting when you look at the isreali flag.

Perhaps you havnt noticed that 99% of those in israel are antichrist.
Why would antichrist persecute antichrist?

 

[jasoncran]

america is also predominate secular and also becoming more so, so is the whole world.
most of my fellow hebrews are like this
atheist and liberal
only 1% is actually a true blue faithful hebrew that applies the torah to his or her life.
most of my relatives that are american are obama supporters
the family in france, i am not sure, i know my cousin david is consertive. rare.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

america is also predominate secular and also becoming more so, so is the whole world.
most of my fellow hebrews are like this
atheist and liberal
only 1% is actually a true blue faithful hebrew that applies the torah to his or her life.
most of my relatives that are american are obama supporters
the family in france, i am not sure, i know my cousin david is consertive. rare.

How many people ion Israel say the Messiah hasnt come?
How many say that Chrisrt isnt come in the flesh?

 

[jasoncran]

america is also predominate secular and also becoming more so, so is the whole world.
most of my fellow hebrews are like this
atheist and liberal
only 1% is actually a true blue faithful hebrew that applies the torah to his or her life.
most of my relatives that are american are obama supporters
the family in france, i am not sure, i know my cousin david is consertive. rare.

How many people ion Israel say the Messiah hasnt come?
How many say that Chrisrt isnt come in the flesh?

they are blind? duh
shoot many in america do this
we are a supposidely a christian culture
yet this

millions aborted
gay rights
slowly denying the christian world view its place and slowly persuction
ever heard of the manhattan declaration
our founders wanted us to be a christian nation with a neutral goverment that wanted and welcome the church to be a voice in worldy affairs.

the rise of the aclu.