Covid 19 virus plus vaccine was meant to kill us.

[Corn Pop]

Because it's possible to get infected a second time, and because the virus mutates, evolving different strains for which the newer vaccines are effective.

I think they went a bit extreme pushing it on the entire elegable population and saying no 90% no freedoms. Why would fit and healthy young people with no known conditions need a jab for basically the symptoms of a cold?. They made it out like everyone was at high risk of dying and needed the jab. I can understand if those over middle aged and older or those who were more vulnerable and at higher risk of getting seriously sick why they were encouraged to get it.

 

[Barbarian]

I think they went a bit extreme pushing it on the entire elegable population and saying no 90% no freedoms. Why would fit and healthy young people with no known conditions need a jab for basically the symptoms of a cold.

Partially because over 70,000 Americans under 50 died of COVID-19 infections. Roughly twice the annual death toll from auto accidents, a major cause of death. And because unvaccinated people tend to become infected and spread the disease.

Never heard "no 90%, no freedoms." Do you have a link to a government decree saying that?

 

[Corn Pop]

Never heard "no 90%, no freedoms." Do you have a link to a government decree saying that?

The ruler spoke. In my opinion ending lockdowns and reopening is called freedom.

New Zealand sets 90% vaccine target to end lockdowns and reopen

The country is aiming to move to a system where it could live with the coronavirus. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

 

[Corn Pop]

And because unvaccinated people tend to become infected and spread the disease.

And so do jab people. Everyone I know who was jab still got infected at some point, some mild some more sick than others. and if someone is infected that means they can also pass it on. I know a whole family who were double jab and all home sick, so it was best at that time for everyone to stay away from them as they were isolating and did not want to spread the virus and make others sick.

 

[Barbarian]

And because unvaccinated people tend to become infected and spread the disease.

And so do jab people.

Only at a much lower rate than unvaccinated people. Not perfect, but pretty good. Plus, vaccinated people are less likely to shed virus, even if they get infected. I can look up the number if you like.

 

[Barbarian]

Never heard "no 90%, no freedoms." Do you have a link to a government decree saying that?

The ruler spoke.

Link?

 

[Hopeful 2]

I wonder how many communist Chinese died from that virus.

 

[Barbarian]

I wonder how many communist Chinese died from that virus.

Our estimates are robust to moderate changes in the assumed age-specific vaccine efficacy and infection-fatality rates (Appendix Table 4). If the large surge in COVID-19 hospitalizations in late 2022 and early 2023 compromised patient care, we may have significantly underestimated the overall mortality rate. Assuming that COVID-19 mortality increased by a factor of 3.39 during China’s 3-day peak in reported test positivity (based on an estimate from a COVID-19 healthcare surge in Hong Kong in March 2022 [12]), our estimate of overall mortality increases to 2.11 (95% CrI 1.71–2.60) million.

Estimate of COVID-19 Deaths, China, December 2022–February 2023

Estimate of COVID-19 Deaths, China

wwwnc.cdc.gov

The Chinese government imposed extreme lockdown rules that probably limited the deaths, but in the long run, damaged the nation in various ways.

The Shadow of China's Lockdown Remains | Think Global Health

Four years after China locked down Wuhan, the country is still feeling the aftershocks

www.thinkglobalhealth.org