[_ Old Earth _] Darwin and Galileo.....both got it wrong ?

[twinc]

Darwin got it wrong - see www.EvolutionvsGod.com
Galileo got it wrong - see www.Galileowaswrong.com
How could it possibly be that God got it wrong - twinc

 

[Free]

Darwin may have gotten some things wrong but he may have gotten some things right. And no, Galileo did not get it wrong.

 

[twinc]

Darwin may have gotten some things wrong but he may have gotten some things right. And no, Galileo did not get it wrong.

so you would have Christian adults and children accept that God got it wrong - no way/not at all - twinc

 

[Free]

so you would have Christian adults and children accept that God got it wrong - no way/not at all - twinc

How would God have gotten it wrong? I cannot comment until I know to what it is that you are referring.

 

[twinc]

How would God have gotten it wrong? I cannot comment until I know to what it is that you are referring.

God via His words[Scriptures] says geocentric - Galileo says heliocentric - see www.johnsalza.com - click on Geocentrism and search it out for yourselves - twinc

 

[Free]

God via His words[Scriptures] says geocentric - Galileo says heliocentric - see www.johnsalza.com - click on Geocentrism and search it out for yourselves - twinc

Where does the Bible even imply geocentric?

 

[jasonc]

why am I not surprised. uhm most creationists don't believe in geocentricism.

 

[twinc]

Where does the Bible even imply geocentric?

all over - it seems you did not go to www.johnsalza.com / geocentrism - twinc

 

[Free]

all over - it seems you did not go to www.johnsalza.com / geocentrism - twinc

I haven't even seen one place, ever, in Scripture where it is implied. I want you to give me the passages that you have found, based on your own study.

I am not going to deal with a site which states "These writings demonstrate that the Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Jesus Christ, the Son of God, outside of which there is no salvation." Nonsense.

 

[jasonc]

the rcc, doesn't even believe as dogma that geocentrism is the way. I don't know of any modern catholic that believes that. Barbarian is a catholic.

 

[twinc]

I haven't even seen one place, ever, in Scripture where it is implied. I want you to give me the passages that you have found, based on your own study.

I am not going to deal with a site which states "These writings demonstrate that the Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Jesus Christ, the Son of God, outside of which there is no salvation." Nonsense.

okay - just a few just for you and for now - more later - 1Chron 16:30/Ps.93:1/96:10/119:90/Eccles.1:5/James 1:11/ Mk.16:2/Mt.5:45/13:6/Mk.1:32/4:6/16:2/Lk.4:40 - Eph.4:26 etc - more later- appx 50 more - twinc

 

[Barbarian]

There are a few Catholics who think the Earth is the center of the universe. I've spoken to one. He also thinks Luther had it right about the Jews. So you never can tell what you turn up. BTW, the Catholic geocentrist site has that quote out of context. Look up "Lumen Gentium" and chapter 2, "The People of God" to see what Catholics really think of other religions.

 

[twinc]

There are a few Catholics who think the Earth is the center of the universe. I've spoken to one. He also thinks Luther had it right about the Jews. So you never can tell what you turn up. BTW, the Catholic geocentrist site has that quote out of context. Look up "Lumen Gentium" and chapter 2, "The People of God" to see what Catholics really think of other religions.

the earth is indeed the centre of the Universe according to the early and now latter day Galileos - see www.Galileowaswrong.com - twinc

 

[Milk-Drops]

So

the earth is indeed the centre of the Universe according to the early and now latter day Galileos - see www.Galileowaswrong.com - twinc

How does your assertion get around the modern theory of reletivity? Due to the theory of relativity we are able to get robots to mars and satilites into orbit. If the theory was wrong then the satiltes would not stay in orbit and the robots would never had made it to mars due to navigation errors.

 

[twinc]

So

How does your assertion get around the modern theory of reletivity? Due to the theory of relativity we are able to get robots to mars and satilites into orbit. If the theory was wrong then the satiltes would not stay in orbit and the robots would never had made it to mars due to navigation errors.

it seems the accuracy is guaranteed because the earth is fixed and does not move, as I read it somewhere - twinc

 

[Free]

okay - just a few just for you and for now - more later - 1Chron 16:30/Ps.93:1/96:10/119:90/Eccles.1:5/James 1:11/ Mk.16:2/Mt.5:45/13:6/Mk.1:32/4:6/16:2/Lk.4:40 - Eph.4:26 etc - more later- appx 50 more - twinc

None of those verses say that the earth is the center of the universe and that it isn't in orbit around the sun. It is a serious misinterpretation of Scripture to believe otherwise.

Do you believe that the earth rotates on an axis?

 

[twinc]

None of those verses say that the earth is the center of the universe and that it isn't in orbit around the sun. It is a serious misinterpretation of Scripture to believe otherwise.

Do you believe that the earth rotates on an axis?

what started the sun rotating when there was nothing to rotate for or around - the sun is the centre of the solar mass and the earth is the centre of the universe - btw what does Eccles 1:5 say to Catholics who are obliged to accept the literal and obvious interpretation - twinc

 

[twinc]

what started the sun rotating when there was nothing to rotate for or around - the sun is the centre of the solar mass and the earth is the centre of the universe - btw what does Eccles 1:5 say - twinc

btw why accept heliocentrism which is unproved and unproveable - it seems some will accept anything as long as it is not in the Bible - twinc

 

[Free]

what started the sun rotating when there was nothing to rotate for or around

I don't understand what you are asking.

btw what does Eccles 1:5 say to Catholics who are obliged to accept the literal and obvious interpretation - twinc

It doesn't say what you are implying it says. Such passages as you have given should be understood as not making scientific statements.

btw why accept heliocentrism which is unproved and unproveable - it seems some will accept anything as long as it is not in the Bible - twinc

And it seems some make the Bible say what they want it to say or make it say things it doesn't based on bad hermeneutics.

Do you believe the earth rotates on an axis?

Do you believe Jesus is a literal door?

 

[twinc]

I don't understand what you are asking.


It doesn't say what you are implying it says. Such passages as you have given should be understood as not making scientific statements.


And it seems some make the Bible say what they want it to say or make it say things it doesn't based on bad hermeneutics.

Do you believe the earth rotates on an axis?

Do you believe Jesus is a literal door?

of course the full ruling for Catholics is 'the literal and obvious must always be accepted unless reason or necessity dictate otherwise so since heliocentrism is not proven or proveable the literal anchor holds - Jesus is not a literal door but a door way - twinc