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hallo I pray that the devil and devils stay the hock out of my life thank you
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You don't have to worry about those guys. God has them chained up and they are definitly not loose in the world today.hallo I pray that the devil and devils stay the hock out of my life thank you
You don't have to worry about those guys. God has them chained up and they are definitly not loose in the world today.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Pet. 2:3–4.
The ones you have to watch out for are humans
"Demonic spirits" are evil attitudes, and they are the reason for all of evil in the world. They come from a sinful nature in man.When exactly did this occur, Jeremiah?
At least we agree on this much, but it's because demonic spirits still use humans. They are separate beings, not "attitudes," and you are being spiritually irresponsible when you tell others demonic spirits are no longer involved in the affairs of men. As I've told you before, the very doctrine itself arises from them, to conceal their activity, and you don't want to conceal the work of demons and aid the Devil in doing so, you want to expose them and their work.
"Demonic spirits" are evil attitudes, and they are the reason for all of evil in the world. They come from a sinful nature in man.
You don't have to worry about those guys. God has them chained up and they are definitly not loose in the world today.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Pet. 2:3–4.
Correct.Why the quotes? You believe "unclean spirits" are merely attitudes as well, and not spiritual beings entirely distinct from humans, having a mind, heart and will of their own?
I believe the Scripture that says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Period. Here is the heaven and earth created. Complete. Finished.Again, when exactly did this occur? This will be the second time I am asking you. Please answer me.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Peter 2:3–4.
Church tradition? Well, if it's tradition you know how those pan out against the Word of God.And your view of the church tradition that this referred only to the angels who sinned with women?
Well, if it's tradition you know how those pan out against the Word of God.
Spirit beings are just that. spirit. Women are physical, or the earth earthy. Impossible for angels that are spirit to have sex with women. who are physical.
Too many inconsistencies to even think such a thing is feasible let alone possible.
The term demon comes from the Greek "daimon". Demons (fallen angels) are also called evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils in scripture as they are disembodied spirits as angels have no form. The use of the terminology of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils are interchangeable in scripture as they all mean the same thing. They exist in a demonic realm as principalities, Romans 8:38, 39; Ephesians 6:12, and have a hierarchy of rulership controlled by Satan as being his messengers, Matthew 12:22-30; Mark 3:22; Luke 4:35. They have no physical form, but can viciously posses a body, Matthew 8:16-31; 12:43-45. Demons are numerous in numbering and can also speak like the Legion of unclean spirits in Mark 5:9.
Church tradition? Well, if it's tradition you know how those pan out against the Word of God.
Spirit beings are just that. spirit. Women are physical, or the earth earthy. Impossible for angels that are spirit to have sex with women. who are physical.
Too many inconsistencies to even think such a thing is feasible let alone possible.
The angels that sinned did so before man was created. They were cast down to hell delivered in chains of darkness awaiting judgment day.
That's what Peter says as well as
I can't answer to that.Then why did the entire early church believe it up until around 300 A.D.?
Scripture defines the Holy Spirit as a Person.Yes. They are described as spirits in scripture. If what is described by the word "spirits" are merely attitudes, then the Holy Spirit is merely an attitude as well, since the exact same term is used.
I can't answer to that.
When Abimelech had reigned three years over Israel,
23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech: Judges 9:22–23.
14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 1 Sam. 16:14.
Ther are all kinds of false beliefs of men out there.The nephlium in the bibke were ancient kings that believed they were decedent's of the "gods."
I can't answer to the early church believing as they did. I can only address what I find in my own studies of Scripture. But I'll do what I can about your comments below.But see, I believe those who assume the responsibility of teaching God's need need to be able to. If the early church was teaching something contrary to what we are teaching, there needs to be a strong explanation for how and why they were wrong, and how exactly they went wrong and when, or we are simply throwing out church tradition (which as you know is not an ugly word in the New Testament) and replacing with something that has no foundation laid down by the apostles and leaders of the first two centuries of Christendom.
I agree. What's wrong with the possibility these two demonics as they are called had mental conditions? Besides Jesus healing physical deformities and sickness is there any place in Scripture Jesus healing mental conditions?And when scripture refers to and evil spirit or an unclean spirit, it refers to them as a person as well.
Metaphorically it does. A person is not a house, is he? Unless Jesus is using figurative speech, and He does so in your passages.43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.
An attitude does not "walk about in dry places, seeking rest." It does not say to itself, "I will return into my house from whence I came out." It doesn't take with it seven more spirits more wicked than itself after it finds the house swept and garnished. That is a person being described, a distinct spiritual entity apart from mankind which is acting on its own initiative, has its own will and intent, and has its own desires and wants.
And can you find for me Scripture of Jesus healing someone with a mental condition?
I find great significance in these words "and in his right mind" Mark 5:15.
Metaphorically it does. A person is not a house, is he? Unless Jesus is using figurative speech, and He does so in your passages.