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Did Man Walk With Dinosaurs?
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Maybe some kind of early man before this world/creation. But, not like the people who came approx. 6000 years ago or whenever. :P :P 
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I believe the earth is much older than 6000 years. It's quite evident from geologist's findings.
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Job 40:15-24
"Behemoth" description fits that of a dinosaur
http://www.creationists.org/dinosaurs-h ... emoth.html
"Behemoth" description fits that of a dinosaur
http://www.creationists.org/dinosaurs-h ... emoth.html
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John said:such as?
I've been reading and studying for years and i have found nothing.
For crying out loud even the Bible talks about Dinos and man together.
Donald Grey Barnhouse, Arthur Custance, and Cyrus Ingersoll Schofield
Those are names a geologist I know mentioned.
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if there was a creation ie the earth with a man or other intellgent life then would jesus haved tried to save them and if not why not tell us so as not suffer the same fate, no i believe in bibical account and the bible says that man was created in god's image and that cant be reconciled with darwinism evolution, no early man could have existed ere the creation of adam and eve.resea rcher said:John said:
I believe the earth is much older than 6000 years. It's quite evident from geologist's findings.
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Lewis W said:
Yes, this debate has been going on for centuries. :o
"The argument in regard to the nature of the animal from the “place†which the description occupies, seems to be confirmed by the fact that the account of the behemoth is immediately followed by that of the leviathan - beyond all question an aquatic monster. As they are here grouped together in the argument, it is probable that they belong to the same class; and if by the leviathan is meant the “crocodile,†then the presumption is that the river-horse, or the hippopotamus, is here intended. These two animals, as being Egyptian wonders, are everywhere mentioned together by ancient writers; see Herodotus, ii. 69-71; Diod. Sic. i. 35; and Pliny, “Hist. Nat.†xxviii. 8."
Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Albert Barnes (1798-1870)
Job 40:15 Behemoth - Very learned men take the leviathan to be the crocodile, and the behemoth to be the river - horse, which may fitly be joined with the crocodile, both being well known to Joband his friends, as being frequent in the adjacent parts, both amphibious, living and preying both in the water and upon the land. And both creatures of great bulk and strength. Made - As I made thee. Grass - The river - horse comes out of the river upon the land to feed upon corn, and hay, or grass, as an ox doth, to whom also he is not unlike in the form of his head and feet, and in the bigness of his body, whence the Italians call him, the sea - ox.
John Wesley's Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible
בְּ×â€Ã–µ×žÖ¹×•×ª (after the manner of the intensive plur. ×â€Ã–¹×•×œÖµ×œÖ¹×•×ª, חָכְמֹות, which play the part of the abstract termination), which sounds like a plur., but without the numerical plural signification, considered as Hebrew, denotes the beast καÄ Ì“ á¼ÂξοÇήν, or the giant of beasts, is however Hebraized from the Egyptian p-ehe-mau, (muau), i.e., the (p) ox (ehe) of the water (mau as in the Hebraized proper name מֹשֶ×Â×â€). It is, as Bochart has first of all shown, the so-called river or Nile horse, Hippopotamus amphibius (in Isa_30:6, בַּֽ×â€Ã–²×žÖ¹×•×ª נֶגֶב, as emblem of Egypt, which extends its power, and still is active in the interest of others), found in the rivers of Africa, but no longer found in the Nile, which is not inappropriately called a horse; the Arab. water-hog is better, Italian bomarino, Eng. sea-cow ?, like the Egyptian p-ehe-mau. The change of p and b in the exchange of Egyptian and Semitic words occurs also elsewhere, e.g., pug' and בּוּץ, harpu and חֶרֶב (á¼…ÃÂÀη), Apriu and עִבְרִינ(according to Lauth). Nevertheless p-ehe-mau (not mau-t, for what should the post-positive fem. art. do here?) is first of all only the ב×â€Ã—ž×•×ª translated back again into the Egyptian by Jablonsky; an instance in favour of this is still wanting. In Hieroglyph the Nile-horse is called apet; it was honoured as divine. Brugsch dwelt in Thebes in the temple of the Apet.
Keil & Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament
Johann (C.F.) Keil (1807-1888) & Franz Delitzsch (1813-1890)
But you would think if there were lots of dinosaurs, we would have heard more about them giving early humans trouble. :o
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jasoncran said:if there was a creation ie the earth with a man or other intellgent life then would jesus haved tried to save them and if not why not tell us so as not suffer the same fate, no i believe in bibical account and the bible says that man was created in god's image and that cant be reconciled with darwinism evolution, no early man could have existed ere the creation of adam and eve.resea rcher said:John said:
I believe the earth is much older than 6000 years. It's quite evident from geologist's findings.
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I'm more inclined to go with the gap theory.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gap - millions of years go by
Gen 1:2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Then again, you have to wonder when God made water. :o
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Lewis W said:
Tyrannosaurus? Raptors?
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if there was a creation ie the earth with a man or other intellgent life then would jesus haved tried to save them and if not why not tell us so as not suffer the same fate, no i believe in bibical account and the bible says that man was created in god's image and that cant be reconciled with darwinism evolution, no early man could have existed ere the creation of adam and eve.
jason[/quote]
I'm more inclined to go with the gap theory.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gap - millions of years go by
Gen 1:2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Then again, you have to wonder when God made water. :o ;) [/quote]
if the earth is that old then would a period of another such time betwen the creation of adam and eve while in the same day, hours= how many years, adam died and at 900 yrs that can't be reconciled either.
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jason[/quote]
I'm more inclined to go with the gap theory.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gap - millions of years go by
Gen 1:2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Then again, you have to wonder when God made water. :o
;) [/quote]if the earth is that old then would a period of another such time betwen the creation of adam and eve while in the same day, hours= how many years, adam died and at 900 yrs that can't be reconciled either.
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jasoncran said:
I'm more inclined to go with the gap theory.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gap - millions of years go by
Gen 1:2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Then again, you have to wonder when God made water. :o
;) [/quote]if the earth is that old then would a period of another such time betwen the creation of adam and eve while in the same day, hours= how many years, adam died and at 900 yrs that can't be reconciled either.
jason[/quote]
Well, it also says that animals and birds were made before man in chapter 1, but in chapter 2 it says they were made after.
Gen 2:18 And Jehovah God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground Jehovah God formed every beast of the field, and every bird of the heavens; and brought them unto the man to see what he would call them: and whatsoever the man called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 1:19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Gen 1:23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind, cattle, and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after their kind: and it was so.
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No that is not true, chapter 2 goes over chapter 1, it is called the Law Of Recurrence. Just like when Dueteronomy means second law, it goes over the laws God gave Moses in Genesis. and it might be worded a little different, but it does not deviate.
researcher, the GAP theory or day age theory have been ripped to shreds already.
Here is a thread i started a while back. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=33770&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=gap+theory
Here is a thread i started a while back. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=33770&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=gap+theory
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John said:
Well, many Spirit filled Christians are still in disagreement. ;)
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Lewis W said:
It's not the law of recurrence.
Chapter 2 contains a parable that explains many things in this world. ;) :D
