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Dietary instruction in the bible - avoid ULTRA-PROCESSED food, GMO food and other artificial food

It is hard to know when food is processed sometimes. Not everyone had the privilege of growing up with healthy homegrown food.
This food thing can get interesting in a hurry.

Why?

Law of Moses has one set of laws / rules.
The good thing about Jewish rules is: they are somewhat consistent if tradition has not gotten mixed with the law.

Gentiles have no real rules across countries.

Modern information has grown but the odds are slim that there is much way to discuss what is going on.

Since we do not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God. We have new covenant scriptures to help.

2 Peter 1:5-8 is my favorite. Really goes along with food digestion when compared to scripture. Metabolic pathways etc.

I wonder how deep this can go.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
Why leave out the rest of the verse I supplied ?
It is written...1 Tim 4:4-5..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
Your agenda foments mistrust in God's word.
"For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."
The “rest” of the verse follows the beginning of the verse. You’ve got the beginning wrong as you overlook this critical condition that only “every creature of God” is to be received. Paul was referring to the fad diets that tell you to avoid certain natural food, such as the hostility against meat and dairy from the vegan camp and climate change cultists, that’s exactly what’s predicted in the previous verse, and that’s the real agenda.
 
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Yeah, so do I! I don’t even know what bread machine is, I let it rise naturally at room temperature, covered with plastic wrap. I do use a stand mixer, though.
A machine with adopters to make bread that heats it to make it rise.mine made loafs which you had to cut .

You can use a masonry brick oven .to make bread .ate that on Afghanistan.

Locally there are photos of relics gotta see if one was a full fledge kitchen .,ah the McKee jungle Spanish kitchen could do it .
 
That's the crux of what I've been saying about diet, although yes being human we falter at times and like just a bit of processed "foods". I get impatient with the medical world who would classify certain natural foods (such as butter and egg yolks) in the same category as junk foods as if God did not know what he was doing. Jesus and his disciples were big fish eaters.
This is the legacy of the low fat mania. It was the conclusion out of reductionist thinking based on a misleading "seven country study" about cardiovascular disease and the high calorie density of fat compared to protein and carbs. The tricky thing is, nature is COUNTER-intuitive, fat is a slow burning fuel compared to carbs, a common analogy is burning log vs. burning twigs. To keep the fire burning for the same amount of time, you need a whole lot of twigs than logs by weight, and the same goes for carbs and fat.
 
The “rest” of the verse follows the beginning of the verse. You’ve got the beginning wrong as you overlook this critical condition that only “every creature of God” is to be received. Paul was referring to the fad diets that tell you to avoid certain natural food, such as the hostility against meat and dairy from the vegan camp and climate change cultists, that’s exactly what’s predicted in the previous verse, and that’s the real agenda.
1 Tim 4:4-5..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
Nothing means "nothing" in 1 Tim 4:4.
 
1 Tim 4:4-5..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
Nothing means "nothing" in 1 Tim 4:4.
1 Tim 4:4-5..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
"Every creature of God" means God's creation, not man's, that's the condition on "nothing". Don't take words out of context.
 
1 Tim 4:4-5..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
"Every creature of God" means God's creation, not man's, that's the condition on "nothing". Don't take words out of context.
Nothing can be made without God.
As long as you are receiving anything with prayer and thanksgiving, you don't have to fear it.
Of course, moderation on all things.
 
Of course, moderation on all things.
This is the problem. Junk food are low in fiber and fat, high in sugar and salt, they're designed to drive you for the next bite, you don't feel full as much as you eat natural food. Before you know it you've already overeaten, that has even become a coping mechanism, you know, for a lot of people, when they feel depressed, they go for their ice cream, Pringles, candies for comfort instead of prayer and thanksgiving to God.
 
1 Tim 4:4-5..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
Nothing means "nothing" in 1 Tim 4:4.
1 Corinthians 10:28 kjv
28. But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:
29. Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?
Hopeful 2. Your conscience is ok in the private sector, but in public when flat out told it bothers someone please stop pushing about it. (Tough Agape love statement - on my part).

There are more scriptures about the other person and their level of faith, and their relationship with God. Also God accepts people different from number one (big me).


Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
Yeah, so do I! I don’t even know what bread machine is, I let it rise naturally at room temperature, covered with plastic wrap. I do use a stand mixer, though.
Me neither. All by hand. There's something satisfying in baking bread from scratch.

One thing that is often overlooked. White flour is processed to strip the wheat seed of the germ and bran, leaving only the endosperm. As a result, there is little nutritional value left. Compare the nutritional labels of whole wheat and white and see for yourself. Bleached white flour also goes through a chemical process to bleach it white. White bleached flour is the top seller because consumers prefer the color and texture better than the darker whole wheat. Even unbleached white flour is less popular than bleached. It's what the consumer wants.

Another case in point. Ever notice there are far more white eggs compared to other colors in the grocery store? My brother has chickens and he gets eggs in many colors including white, brown, green, blue, even pink colors but those other colors are rarely found on the grocers' shelves because we consumers are finicky. There is no difference in taste. It's all consumer driven.
 
Me neither. All by hand. There's something satisfying in baking bread from scratch.

One thing that is often overlooked. White flour is processed to strip the wheat seed of the germ and bran, leaving only the endosperm. As a result, there is little nutritional value left. Compare the nutritional labels of whole wheat and white and see for yourself. Bleached white flour also goes through a chemical process to bleach it white. White bleached flour is the top seller because consumers prefer the color and texture better than the darker whole wheat. Even unbleached white flour is less popular than bleached. It's what the consumer wants.

Another case in point. Ever notice there are far more white eggs compared to other colors in the grocery store? My brother has chickens and he gets eggs in many colors including white, brown, green, blue, even pink colors but those other colors are rarely found on the grocers' shelves because we consumers are finicky. There is no difference in taste. It's all consumer driven.
A bread machine doesn't mix it ,it simply bakes it .

The one we had was shaped like a loaf and the bread when done would be in that form.my wife made banana bread that way.


We use organic bread now .
 
A bread machine doesn't mix it ,it simply bakes it .

The one we had was shaped like a loaf and the bread when done would be in that form.my wife made banana bread that way.


We use organic bread now .
Not the one we have. We can put the ingredients in, turn it on, and it mixes, kneads, rises, bakes the bread all by itself.

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Here's another example of how we consumers drive the manufacturers. In a time far, far away when I was young, a new automobile rarely came with too many extras. They had manual windows, manual door locks, manual seats that only adjusted forward and back, manual steering, manual transmission, manual climate control and no dual control, no AC, AM radio only, no intermittent windshield wipers, and so forth. All of these things were available but by special order.

Over time, we consumers began to spend our money more and more on those niceties. Adding those things requires significant changes in the manufacturing process, which is why they were special ordered. The manufacturers took notice and began to promote those things more because it was increasing sales to meet the desires of the consumer. To do that they redesigned the assembly lines to increase production. Today, if you want to buy a new vehicle without all the amenities, it's a special order and will cost more because they are no longer set up to do it in mass production. I just saw a commercial for a Chevy truck and one thing they focused on was the versatility of the 6-way tail gate. Really? That is that important? Yes! We consumers like those bells and whistles.

In addition to all of those amenities, we consumers also demanded more safety, efficiency, and emission control features like seatbelts with shoulder restraints, ABS brakes, air bags, electronic fuel injected ignition, and so forth. We passed laws requiring them. Well, that adds cost.

None of these things I mentioned are bad and in fact many are very beneficial for the environment.
 
Here's another example of how we consumers drive the manufacturers. In a time far, far away when I was young, a new automobile rarely came with too many extras. They had manual windows, manual door locks, manual seats that only adjusted forward and back, manual steering, manual transmission, manual climate control and no dual control, no AC, AM radio only, no intermittent windshield wipers, and so forth. All of these things were available but by special order.

Over time, we consumers began to spend our money more and more on those niceties. Adding those things requires significant changes in the manufacturing process, which is why they were special ordered. The manufacturers took notice and began to promote those things more because it was increasing sales to meet the desires of the consumer. To do that they redesigned the assembly lines to increase production. Today, if you want to buy a new vehicle without all the amenities, it's a special order and will cost more because they are no longer set up to do it in mass production. I just saw a commercial for a Chevy truck and one thing they focused on was the versatility of the 6-way tail gate. Really? That is that important? Yes! We consumers like those bells and whistles.

In addition to all of those amenities, we consumers also demanded more safety, efficiency, and emission control features like seatbelts with shoulder restraints, ABS brakes, air bags, electronic fuel injected ignition, and so forth. We passed laws requiring them. Well, that adds cost.

None of these things I mentioned are bad and in fact many are very beneficial for the environment.
Abs and that safety was fully mandated .
Fuel injection in part because of fuel standards .
 
Abs and that safety was fully mandated .
Fuel injection in part because of fuel standards .
That's what I said. We wanted them so we passed laws requiring them. The manufacturers didn't do it just to make money. Do they do it for profit now? Absolutely! Nothing is free.

I operate a hobby farm. I grow wheat, soybeans, oats, and hay. I don't do it because I need the money. When I was working, my salary was adequate and when I made the decision to retire, my farm income did not play a part of that decision. I do it because I enjoy it and I get some satisfaction in knowing that I help produce some of the things people need. Yes, I do make a little profit from it. Wheat and oats are obvious as they are for human consumption. Hay and soybeans are primarily used in animal feeds. I don't know how many people know this but 97% of the soybeans produced in the US are used in poultry and livestock feed. The remaining 3% are used for protein alternatives, soymilk, oil, human food, industrial purposes, biodiesel and finally wild animal food as evidenced by the deer, geese, and other animals I see grazing in my fields :) .
 
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Are we getting?:
Jesus is the bread of life
In the fullness of time he was born
All the nutrients were in his teaching

How to do:
yeast
Rise time
Going through fire

I will possibly leave for others.

eddif
 
Me neither. All by hand. There's something satisfying in baking bread from scratch.

One thing that is often overlooked. White flour is processed to strip the wheat seed of the germ and bran, leaving only the endosperm. As a result, there is little nutritional value left. Compare the nutritional labels of whole wheat and white and see for yourself. Bleached white flour also goes through a chemical process to bleach it white. White bleached flour is the top seller because consumers prefer the color and texture better than the darker whole wheat. Even unbleached white flour is less popular than bleached. It's what the consumer wants.

Another case in point. Ever notice there are far more white eggs compared to other colors in the grocery store? My brother has chickens and he gets eggs in many colors including white, brown, green, blue, even pink colors but those other colors are rarely found on the grocers' shelves because we consumers are finicky. There is no difference in taste. It's all consumer driven.
I tried whole wheat bread numerous times, the brans inside is a blessing and a curse - it cuts gluten strands. When gluten strands don't develop, the dough traps less air, and with less air, the dough doesn't rise well as much as white bread. It's still good for making tortilla and other unleavened bread, but I'm really bad at making that, it always ends up hard like Jewish matzah, and it can't be used to wrap anything.
 
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