Discard Medieval Concepts of Heaven and Earth for the Scriptural Meta-Universe

[Free]

Who are you to address my theology?

A believer. It is what the Bible commands us to do. We are to discuss these things and help each other move away from and avoid error.

You don't even have a theology!

Says who?

I have never given any indications that I think I am never wrong or I have all answers.

Except when someone tries to correct you and point out an error in your theology or reasoning. Your anger betrays you.

And don't you dare try to tell me what I believe and don't put words in my mouth.

I simply corrected your misinterpretation of Scripture and pointed out that it was closer to Gnosticism than the Bible. “Flesh” in that particular instance has a specific meaning.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Perhaps it’s best you stick to your own discussions as you completely failed to understand my post.

I understand perfectly, you're wrong: Quantum Physics is not gnostic at all. And its my thread, your accusations also imply I'm gnostic, so I'll answer anytime I please to false accusations.

PS: "Dives" is derived from Latin Vulgate's translation for "rich, wealthy" in Luke 16:19, 22

Homo quidam erat dives et induebatur purpura et bysso et epulabatur cotidie splendide (Lk. 16:19 VUL)

factum est autem ut moreretur mendicus et portaretur ab angelis in sinum Abrahae mortuus est autem et dives et sepultus est in inferno (Lk. 16:22 VUL)

 

[Free]

I understand perfectly, you're wrong: Quantum Physics is not gnostic at all. And its my thread, your accusations also imply I'm gnostic, so I'll answer anytime I please to false accusations.

My point is that you completely failed to understand what I posted. In no way whatsoever did I confuse quantum physics with Gnosticism. My “accusation” was only a correction of a misinterpretation of Scripture that has nothing to do with you, that I know of.

 

[Alfred Persson]

My point is that you completely failed to understand what I posted. In no way whatsoever did I confuse quantum physics with Gnosticism. My “accusation” was only a correction of a misinterpretation of Scripture that has nothing to do with you, that I know of.

Explain how I misunderstood your post, please. If I owe an apology, I'll certainly offer it.

 

[Free]

Explain how I misunderstood your post, please. If I owe an apology, I'll certainly offer it.

I was specifically addressing the biblical understanding of walking in the flesh, which appeared to have been used in the sense of the physical body. But biblically, in that instance, as it often does, “flesh” refers to the sinful nature. Of course, maybe the person did mean sinful nature but then I don’t see how that would fit the context of the post.

So, the post came across as: we overcome our physical flesh by walking in the Spirit. Of course, with Gnosticism, flesh is bad (hence the need to overcome it or do away with it) and spirit is good.

And, no apology is necessary if you misunderstood. It can be fairly easy for these things to happen.

 

[Edward]

I was specifically addressing the biblical understanding of walking in the flesh, which appeared to have been used in the sense of the physical body. But biblically, in that instance, as it often does, “flesh” refers to the sinful nature. Of course, maybe the person did mean sinful nature but then I don’t see how that would fit the context of the post.

So, the post came across as: we overcome our physical flesh by walking in the Spirit. Of course, with Gnosticism, flesh is bad (hence the need to overcome it or do away with it) and spirit is good.

And, no apology is necessary if you misunderstood. It can be fairly easy for these things to happen.

It's not gnostic to overcome the flesh. That's biblical.

 

[Free]

It's not gnostic to overcome the flesh. That's biblical.

But the whole point was, in the context of this topic, “flesh” as you referred to it, would be physical flesh. But that is not what the Bible means in this particular use. For instance in Rom 8, it means we are to overcome the sinful nature.

 

[Edward]

You need to think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. Light vibrates. The vibration is caused by it's flicking in and out of phase with this world and it's lesser light which was created for us to live under.

But we are called to live under a greater light. So we need to bring our frequency to match that of the Kingdom realm. Here, watch this. Ian explains it real good. You prolly wont accept it because you look to see proof and we are to look to the unseen. Enjoy...

 

[Free]

You need to think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. Light vibrates. The vibration is caused by it's flicking in and out of phase with this world and it's lesser light which was created for us to live under.

But we are called to live under a greater light. So we need to bring our frequency to match that of the Kingdom realm. Here, watch this. Ian explains it real good. You prolly wont accept it because you look to see proof and we are to look to the unseen.

Looking to the unseen doesn't mean we believe whatever someone spouts. One of the problems is that the worldly fascination with the novel has been creeping into the Church for many years, particularly on the charismatic side of things. As a result, there is very little discernment used or reasoning from the Scriptures to determine whether or not what someone says is true. Walking by faith means believing what the Bible says and looking at all times to God and living in continual trust in Him. That is why I won't accept this.

Enjoy...

Too much speculation in there and poor exegesis. Talk of vibration, frequency, and energy smacks more of New Age teaching than biblical. It certainly is going beyond the plain reading of Scripture by teaching mere speculation as though it is true. These teachings have been infiltrating the Church for many years through false teachers.

I'll leave you with this. Enjoy (start at 1:29:30 for the relevance to this discussion):