DO NOT BE SURPRISED (A Word Of Warning For The Time To Come)

[Jacks Bratt]

I disagree once again, "Cause" refers to the deception in false miracles, nobody will be forced into taking the mark, they will be deceived into this.

Revelation 19:20KJV
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Well, I will agree to disagree. Maybe your translation of the scriptures would not say "required" or "forced" or "made to", but many accepted translations that men of God preach from, do.

 

[ezrider]

Who gave Noah the idea and, really, the command, to build an ark? Noah was removed before the deluge.

Lot and his family were walked out of the area by angels, sent by God, to get them out of there. They were removed.

Well then, you be careful that you are not found looking back, oh salt of the earth.

 

[for_his_glory]

Then perhaps he just hasn't taught you the rest of it yet. Or maybe you presume too much?




The seven thunders were sealed up by not being written. But they are not sealed or hidden from Christ. The words of the book have been sealed, but I know you don't believe that either.

Just because the mystery has not yet been manifest to you, that does not mean that the mystery is not yet fulfilled.

Col 1:26-27
Eph 3:2-6
Rom 16:25-26
Mark 4:11




So did Jonah. It's only 4 short chapters. Such a prominent prophet to be mentioned in a sign of his coming. Are you sure you wish to ignore? Well, that's right, you've got it all figured out.




The Spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus Christ; but you prophecy of an anti-christ.

One of the Lord's cautions to the seven churches was to return to your First Love. Jesus said where your heart is, there shall your treasure be also. Is your first love the anti-christ? If you seek the anti-christ in the scripture and then try and teach me of him, then where does your heart lay? And if your heart lays with the anti-christ, then the treasures that you seek are wrath and judgement: which is what you teach for salvation.





Not only did he think to change times and laws, but he established a whole new covenant while making the first one obsolete. Why he even declared himself to be the temple of God and then took away the daily sacrifice. HOW DARE HE!!!!

I will ignore your rude remarks and saying I teach from an antichrist spirit. No, I have not all things figured out, but only that which is given me by the Holy Spirit through the written word alone. I don't hold the monopoly of all truths as like everyone we are all still learning.

Nowhere in scripture does it say what the seven thunders uttered as they are sealed and have never been written. Many confuse this mystery of God that is sealed with that of the mystery of God being that of Jesus. People can only speculate that of what has never been written and is sealed.

Scripture tells us the mystery of God is Jesus that is hidden from those who have no wisdom or knowledge, Colossians 2:2, 3. It's like the mystery of the kingdom of God in Mark 4 as Jesus was teaching a parable and told the disciples it was only unto them to understand the mystery of the parable as those who knew not Jesus like the disciples did would not have any understanding.

Ephesians 3:1-6 the mystery of God being Jesus, which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.

You can say I prophecy of an antichrist spirit, but yet you ignore the study of what Daniel has revealed in Daniel Chapter 7. One only has to study the different Empires since the first being the Babylonian Empire to see who has always come against God's people.

 

[Truth7t7]

Take a look at this the word "might"
δύναμαι dýnamai, doo'-nam-ahee

of uncertain affinity; to be able or possible:—be able, can (do, + -not), could, may, might, be possible, be of power.

verb

Once again as seen below, those that receive the mark will do so "Willfully", they will not be forced, they will be deceived by the false prophet and false miracles.

Sorta like a big Benny Hinn phony miracles crusade, with a firework show.

Once you read and understand the "Two Witnesses" in Revelation 11, then you will see clearly that these two will control the tribulation as Moses, and Aaron did against Pharoh of Egypt.

Revelation 11:4-6KJV
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

The script you present, is Tim La Haye's
Left Behind Hollywood movie series "Fictional"

Mark you don't mention the "Two Witnesses" all plagues as often as they will, these two prophets will torment the world, you don't say a word, "Why"?

Mark do you have Revelation Chapter 11 in your bible?

In Love

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Truth7t7]

What are the "two witnesses" in control of?

All they do is convict and expose those on earth to the evil that they are committing. And, rightly so.

Who were Moses and Aaron in control over, when they stood before Pharoh of Egypt in Plagues?

Revelation 11:4-6KJV
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

 

[Truth7t7]

I will ignore your rude remarks and saying I teach from an antichrist spirit. No, I have not all things figured out, but only that which is given me by the Holy Spirit through the written word alone. I don't hold the monopoly of all truths as like everyone we are all still learning.

Nowhere in scripture does it say what the seven thunders uttered as they are sealed and have never been written. Many confuse this mystery of God that is sealed with that of the mystery of God being that of Jesus. People can only speculate that of what has never been written and is sealed.

Scripture tells us the mystery of God is Jesus that is hidden from those who have no wisdom or knowledge, Colossians 2:2, 3. It's like the mystery of the kingdom of God in Mark 4 as Jesus was teaching a parable and told the disciples it was only unto them to understand the mystery of the parable as those who knew not Jesus like the disciples did would not have any understanding.

Ephesians 3:1-6 the mystery of God being Jesus, which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.

You can say I prophecy of an antichrist spirit, but yet you ignore the study of what Daniel has revealed in Daniel Chapter 7. One only has to study the different Empires since the first being the Babylonian Empire to see who has always come against God's people.

Jerusalem is the Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.

 

[for_his_glory]

Jerusalem is the Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.

Jerusalem is only the place where the son of perdition will take his seat on the very Temple Mount where God use to dwell in Temples made by hand, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. The Dome of the Rock has been sitting there since 691 A.D. as the last Temple ever built was destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 A.D. There was never another temple built there or never will be. The son of perdition is not a Jew, nor a Muslim, but comes from the revived Roman Empire Daniel explained in Daniel chapter 7.

 

[Edward]

What are the "two witnesses" in control of?

All they do is convict and expose those on earth to the evil that they are committing. And, rightly so.

I read it like that too at first, but realized he just missed typing a comma after the word controlled.

 

[Jacks Bratt]

Who were Moses and Aaron in control over, when they stood before Pharoh of Egypt in Plagues?

Revelation 11:4-6KJV
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Moses and Aaron were not in control over anyone. They had no control what so ever... The Egyptians had control over the slaves.

Again, Who, or what, will the two witnesses have control over?

If Moses and Aaron had control, they could have just walked out, revolted, went on strike.. but, no..... the slaves were controlled by the Egyptians.

The two witnesses will only serve as voices giving convictions. They are powerless to do anything but that and protect themselves... well, until they are killed.

 

[ezrider]

Jerusalem is only the place where the son of perdition will take his seat on the very Temple Mount where God use to dwell in Temples made by hand, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. The Dome of the Rock has been sitting there since 691 A.D. as the last Temple ever built was destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 A.D. There was never another temple built there or never will be. The son of perdition is not a Jew, nor a Muslim, but comes from the revived Roman Empire Daniel explained in Daniel chapter 7.

If my body is the temple of God.....

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?



Then how can this "man of sin" you look for take up his seat inside my temple?

 

[Truth7t7]

Moses and Aaron were not in control over anyone. They had no control what so ever... The Egyptians had control over the slaves.

Again, Who, or what, will the two witnesses have control over?

If Moses and Aaron had control, they could have just walked out, revolted, went on strike.. but, no..... the slaves were controlled by the Egyptians.

The two witnesses will only serve as voices giving convictions. They are powerless to do anything but that and protect themselves... well, until they are killed.

The two witnesses will be literal physical beings, that are referred to as Their, Them, They "Personal Pronouns"

They will have power over all plagues rain, water to blood, all plagues as they will, just as Moses And Aaron represented the Lord against Pharoh of Egypt, they will represent the Lord before the Beast/Antichrist and his kingdom on this earth.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

 

[Truth7t7]

If my body is the temple of God.....

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?



Then how can this "man of sin" you look for take up his seat inside my temple?

I can't deny that our bodies are referred to as God's temple?

However we see a future human "Man Of Sin" that is referred to with "Personal Pronoun's" "He, "Him", "Himself", as the scripture teaches below he will sit in a temple of God.

I believe this could be a physical building, to seat a human man.

2Thessalonians 2:1-9KJV
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

 

[ezrider]

I will ignore your rude remarks and saying I teach from an antichrist spirit.

I'll bet the Pharisees felt the same way. Do yo think it wise that they ignored the words of Jesus too? What did he say about the blind leading the blind into a ditch.

I DID NOT say that you teach FROM an antichrist spirit. I said:

The Spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus Christ. Why do you then prophecy about an antichrist?

No, I have not all things figured out, but only that which is given me by the Holy Spirit through the written word alone.

What is written in the word alone is not sufficient, but more importantly you must also learn to express the word as it is written upon your heart. To do that, you will have to lay down the written word for a while so you don't catch yourself plagiarizing. Consider it a fast.

Scripture tells us the mystery of God is Jesus that is hidden from those who have no wisdom or knowledge, Colossians 2:2, 3. It's like the mystery of the kingdom of God in Mark 4 as Jesus was teaching a parable and told the disciples it was only unto them to understand the mystery of the parable as those who knew not Jesus like the disciples did would not have any understanding.

I don't mean to be rude, but it sounds to me like your just rambling, stringing together mysteries with no understanding. Maybe you can explain how you can know and teach about the mysteries of the kingdom of Christ when you are still as yet operating under the "mystery of iniquity" while waiting for the man of sin.

You can say I prophecy of an antichrist spirit, but yet you ignore the study of what Daniel has revealed in Daniel Chapter 7. One only has to study the different Empires since the first being the Babylonian Empire to see who has always come against God's people.

So you study the empires of men, then speak of a revived Roman empire, but then say you hold no doctrines and traditions of men. If you actually heard what was written in the scriptures, then you would know that it was God who always came against His people. It is the Lord who sets up kings at his pleasure, and it is the Lord who overthrows them.

You open the book of Daniel and expect to see an antichrist, and so you fill your doctrine with devils. You look to the little horn and see some vile evil man of sin because that is what you want to see. But when I see the little horn, I see the horn of David, the horn of my salvation who changed the times and laws by establishing a new covenant and making the old obsolete. I see a King raised up to sit upon the throne of glory. I see a King of fierce countenance. But you see a man of sin. Why is it that you don't know Jesus in all his glory? Could it be you are not seeking him?

 

[ezrider]

They will have power over all plagues rain, water to blood, all plagues as they will,

As they will... What if it is their will that they should withhold these plagues, and grant salvation instead?

 

[Truth7t7]

I'll bet the Pharisees felt the same way. Do yo think it wise that they ignored the words of Jesus too? What did he say about the blind leading the blind into a ditch.

I DID NOT say that you teach FROM and antichrist spirit. I said:

The Spirit of prophecy is the testimonty of Jesus Christ. Why do you then prophecy about an antichrist?



What is written in the word alone is not sufficient, but more importantly you must also learn to express the word as it is written upon your heart. To do that, you will have to lay down the written word for a while so you don't catch yourself plagiarizing. Consider it a fast.




I don't mean to be rude, but it sounds to me like your just rambling stringing together mysteries with no understanding. Maybe you can explain how you can know and teach about the mysteries of the kingdom of Christ when you are still as yet operating under the "mystery of iniquity" while waiting for the man of sin.




So you study the empires of men, then speak of a revived Roman empire, but then say you hold no doctrines and traditions of men. If you actually heard what was written in the scriptures, then you would know that it was God who always came against His people. It is the Lord who sets of kings at his pleasure and it is the Lord who overthrows them.

You open the book of Daniel and expect to see an antichrist, and so you fill your doctrine with devils. You look to the little horn and see some vile evil man of sin because that is what you want to see. But when I see the little horn, I see the horn of David, the horn of my salvation who changed the times and laws by establishing a new covenant and making the old obsolete. I see a King raised up to sit upon the throne of glory. I see a King of fierce countenance. But you see a man of sin. Why is it that you don't know Jesus in all his glory? Could it be you are not seeking him?

It's my opinion that your judgment is in left field.

Any poster who mentions the biblical antichrist, man of sin, man of lawlesses, little horn?

You portray the Christian believer as worshipping this future human man.

Your complete accusations are unfounded, a false uneducated claim.

 

[ezrider]

It's my opinion that your judgment is in left field.

Any poster who mentions the biblical antichrist, man of sin, man of lawlesses, little horn?

You portray the Christian believer as worshipping this future human man.

Your complete accusations are unfounded, a false uneducated claim.

Then why do you look for him?

 

[Jacks Bratt]

The two witnesses will be literal physical beings, that are referred to as Their, Them, They "Personal Pronouns"

They will have power over all plagues rain, water to blood, all plagues as they will, just as Moses And Aaron represented the Lord against Pharoh of Egypt, they will represent the Lord before the Beast/Antichrist and his kingdom on this earth.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

See, that wasn't so hard, now, was it...
That is a much better answer...
So, they will have powers over these things, while the anitchrist has power over the governments and people of the earth who are living through this hell.

 

[for_his_glory]

If my body is the temple of God.....

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?



Then how can this "man of sin" you look for take up his seat inside my temple?

I said the son of perdition will take a literal seat upon the very site in Jerusalem that the Temple of God use to sit before it was destroyed in 70 A.D. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. The Dome of the Rock sits there and will never be handed over to the Jews.

 

[for_his_glory]

I'll bet the Pharisees felt the same way. Do yo think it wise that they ignored the words of Jesus too? What did he say about the blind leading the blind into a ditch.

I DID NOT say that you teach FROM an antichrist spirit. I said:

The Spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus Christ. Why do you then prophecy about an antichrist?



What is written in the word alone is not sufficient, but more importantly you must also learn to express the word as it is written upon your heart. To do that, you will have to lay down the written word for a while so you don't catch yourself plagiarizing. Consider it a fast.




I don't mean to be rude, but it sounds to me like your just rambling, stringing together mysteries with no understanding. Maybe you can explain how you can know and teach about the mysteries of the kingdom of Christ when you are still as yet operating under the "mystery of iniquity" while waiting for the man of sin.




So you study the empires of men, then speak of a revived Roman empire, but then say you hold no doctrines and traditions of men. If you actually heard what was written in the scriptures, then you would know that it was God who always came against His people. It is the Lord who sets up kings at his pleasure, and it is the Lord who overthrows them.

You open the book of Daniel and expect to see an antichrist, and so you fill your doctrine with devils. You look to the little horn and see some vile evil man of sin because that is what you want to see. But when I see the little horn, I see the horn of David, the horn of my salvation who changed the times and laws by establishing a new covenant and making the old obsolete. I see a King raised up to sit upon the throne of glory. I see a King of fierce countenance. But you see a man of sin. Why is it that you don't know Jesus in all his glory? Could it be you are not seeking him?

I apologize as I thought you meant that I have an antichrist spirit as in what I teach, but yet you continue to condemn me by your rude remarks as you claim my ignorance of Gods word.

Prophecy has already been given in the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation so why would I add any prophecy to that which God has already given, but not yet fulfilled. There is a stern warning in Rev 22:18, 19 about adding to or taking away from the book. What I teach comes straight out of the KJV.

Wow, are you truly saying the Bible is not sufficient!!! The word that is written upon my heart is the very words of God from Genesis to Revelation. Sorry I will never walk away from the written word of God. To do so would make one a fool and not having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit would make one none of His.

Romans 8: 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

You don't believe we need the Bible so how would you know what the mysteries of God are as many of them are explained in the scriptures like what I already gave. It may sound like me rambling to you, but that is because you say the scriptures are not sufficient for our learning.

I open the book of Daniel and am taught about an antichrist. I open the book of 2 Thessalonians and Paul teaches me who this antichrist/son of perdition is so I am aware of him. Since you think the Bible is not sufficient (your own words) and only rely on your heart to teach you then that becomes a carnal knowledge if you have not the Spirit of God dwelling in you and makes you none of Christ, Romans 8:8.

 

[JLB]

Do not be surprised...
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When multitudes of Christians take the mark of the beast. When pastors, friends and loved ones, who may or may not in fact be born again, take the mark and try to persuade you to do the same---telling you whatever they may to justify their actions and to persuade you: "For the sake of your children! What sort of parent would allow their children to go hungry! Is that what God would want? Do you think He is a monster, that it would be His will for His children to suffer, and innocent children, to not be able to eat or to lose their home, because their parents---who are responsible to provide for and protect them---refuse to take a mark? Didn't Jesus say that He would never leave us or forsake us, and that nothing can separate us from His love?"


Beware. People who will tell you these things are deceived themselves, and even being used of the devil, unbeknownst to them, to try to convince you to do what will be your undoing. You will save neither yourselves nor your children by taking the mark, and you will perish spiritually. Do not be deceived. Remember Eve.


And do not be surprised if church buildings all over the world, from the smallest to the greatest, are razed or set on fire, by order or encouragement of the government of the antichrist---as though God has turned His back on His people. The truth of it is that He hated what was being done in them, and they were an abomination to Him and an insult to His name; and by the hands of wicked men, He ordained that they should be destroyed and set on fire, as a testimony to the whole world that they did not honor Him and that He was not pleased with what was being done in them in His name: All the abominations that you now see in the churches, and the apostasy, in perverting the gospel and departing from and twisting the teachings of the faith, and making them whatever people want them to be to serve their own ends and to allow them to carry out the evil and unholy desires of their flesh and of their minds.


And on top of all of these abominations, which you now see, there will be yet another---the greatest of them all---when the people of God forsake Him and take the mark of the beast to save their lives on earth, and to avoid persecution, and when they bow down with the nations to worship the image of the antichrist: The abomination that makes desolate. And so shall they be left when they do it. The very thing that God declares in His word will happen to anyone who does this abomination, will happen to them also---though they quote every verse in the Bible to justify their faithlessness and rebellion, as they do now for other things.


So bear in mind, if and when the church buildings are destroyed, that it was the hand of your God that did it, through the hands of evil men, and His own mouth that gave the command---just as it was in the days of those who were before us, who we have as an example in the Scriptures, but fail to understand that we are following in their footsteps. It will not be because Satan has triumphed, that they will be torn down or set on fire, but because of the evil of God's people that they will be torn down, by God's own will. And it will be a testimony to the whole world, and to you, that this is so---that you may be ashamed of your rebellious ways and of your flagrant sins, and self-deception, and of the abominations that you used these houses for, and the sins you kept fresh in them, while calling on the name of the Lord and praising Him, to His dishonor and displeasure.


And do not be deceived by the many Christians---true or professing---who will take the mark and try to persuade you to do the same, telling you that no harm will come to you. They will be deceived. Believe the words of your God, and not the words of men over God's, as you have made a habit of doing.


We have good reason to believe that the very same thing that happened to the sanctuaries of Israel whenever they rebelled against the LORD will happen to us also, for the same reason. So no one should be surprised if it does. God is consistent in His ways.


And if and when the people of this world rejoice and mock at the destruction of them, saying that it is because the God of the Christians is not God and because Christians are not the people of God that the churches are razed and God does not prevent it or take vengeance on those who destroy them, remember that it is because God was displeased with the churches that He commanded that they be destroyed, and not because He has no power to prevent it. He never wanted them. He always wanted the hearts and lives of His people---but He got buildings instead, and sacrifice instead of obedience. And all manner of evil was being committed in the churches in His name.


The nations may exult over the destruction of the churches, but they will be foolish in doing so; for if the judgment of God begins at His household and sanctuary, and He does not spare His own people who rebel against Him, what will He do to those who have never known Him and have not obeyed the gospel? The cup of His wrath will come around to them also.