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Do You Have The Right ?

Lewis

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Amish Girl With Leukemia, Family Flees US to Avoid Chemotherapy

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A 10-year-old Amish girl with leukemia and her parents have left the country to seek alternatives to chemotherapy, according to the family's attorney.

Sarah Hershberger and her parents oppose chemotherapy, and have been fighting the Akron Children's Hospital in court after the family stopped Sarah's treatment. Her parents said the treatments have caused their daughter a great deal of pain, and they'd rather focus on herbal and natural remedies.

"It's the constitutional right, but [there's a] moral right to refuse conventional medical treatment," the Hershberger's attorney, Maurice Thompson, told ABC News Wednesday.

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Hospital officials declined to comment on Sarah's case or whether they would seek further legal action. Law enforcement officials said at this point there was no formal search for the girl.

The Hershbergers left their home in northeast Ohio days before a state appeals court appointed a guardian in October to take over medical decisions from Sarah's parents. The family members won't say where they are now, but they have no plans to return to their home anytime soon, according to Thompson.

"Sarah's condition has gotten a lot better since the family has been pursuing the alternative treatment," Thompson said.

Sarah had tumors on her neck, chest and kidneys when her parents initially agreed to chemotherapy at Akron Children's Hospital earlier this year. Her parents said the side effects were terrible, and they wanted to treat Sarah's leukemia with alternative treatments.

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"We've seen how sick it makes her," Andy Hershberger, Sarah's father, told ABC News in August. "Our belief is the natural stuff will do just as much as that stuff if it's God's will."

The Hershbergers said their daughter complained to them that the chemo made her tired and sick.

"If we do chemotherapy and she would happen to die, she would probably suffer more than if we would do it this way and she would happen to die," he said.

The legal wrangling over Sarah's health began in July when the hospital took the family to court to seek temporary guardianship. The judge in Ohio's Medina County ruled that Sarah's parents had the right to make medical decisions for her, because there was no evidence they are unfit.

An Ohio appeals court ruled in August that a juvenile court judge must reconsider the decision that blocked the hospital's attempt to give the attorney limited guardianship over Sarah and the power to make medical decisions for her.

An appeals court ruling in October granted an attorney, who's also a registered nurse, limited guardianship over Sarah and the power to make medical decisions for her. The court said the beliefs and convictions of her parents can't outweigh the rights of the state to protect the child.
 
I say that yes they have the right to seek other ways of treatment but shouldn't flee the country. And I don't think it's right for the hospital to force you to do something you don't want to do.
 
If it wasn't a child who doesn't know better I would say yes of course someone has the right. The 10 year old doesn't know better though. Her parents don't believe in it. She is just a kid who needs treatment.
 
that is a hard one, if the patient isn't willing to get well they wont. it may be hard to say that but i have seen the eldery tell doctorns, no i want to die. i don't want chemo nor more. its my time and die within days. my aunt said something of the like and she didn't have cancer.
 
But they are adults Jason' she is only 10.
yes but its like this. what if its government mandating her to die, and she does have a terminal or chronic illness. do the parents say ok you must die? that has happened in hollland. the child may die from cancer and does the article mention she has had chemo before? if so then she may simply wish to die as she has been throught that hell before
 
ironic the same government that would pay to have this child aborted is used to deny the parents choice.

I don't think parents should have the right to deny their children treatment for curable illness.
 
I don't think parents should have the right to deny their children treatment for curable illness.
cancer via chemo is iffy at best. i lost a few friends to cancer. its was their choice to die, they refused treatment and both said that if it comes back i will die from this. i cant stand the hell of chemo. in both cases it was same cancer. one was colonrectal cancer that spread and the other was two types of cancer. one was kidney cancer, and then it went to pancreatic cancer. the former on i mentioned had it in remission and got sick and said to me before i last saw her, was that she said this sickness i have feels like the cancer i had, if it is i will die. she died a few weeks later.
 
cancer via chemo is iffy at best. i lost a few friends to cancer. its was their choice to die, they refused treatment and both said that if it comes back i will die from this. i cant stand the hell of chemo. in both cases it was same cancer. one was colonrectal cancer that spread and the other was two types of cancer. one was kidney cancer, and then it went to pancreatic cancer. the former on i mentioned had it in remission and got sick and said to me before i last saw her, was that she said this sickness i have feels like the cancer i had, if it is i will die. she died a few weeks later.

Iffy sounds like low survival rate, but indeed that isn't the case. That isn't the crux of the issue. The issue is the parents didn't want her to have a treatment that would likely save her life. This is an issue with several denominations. Christian scientist, Amish, and a few others. I just don't think parents have the right to let their kids suffer and die from treatable illness.
 
if the child has been through chemo once and it didn't work and it had 50% chance and it failed then what is the point?in this case she hasn't yet. the only problem i have with that ruling is that it can go to far. what if said child had chemo once and wants to die because she doesn't want that hell again. chemo is very hard on the body. i would say its close to death.
 
cancer is never cured its merely put into remission. as i have said with my friend it came back. that is why you go to check up for five years after chemo and cant donate blood for ten years after chemo.
 
if the child has been through chemo once and it didn't work and it had 50% chance and it failed then what is the point?in this case she hasn't yet. the only problem i have with that ruling is that it can go to far. what if said child had chemo once and wants to die because she doesn't want that hell again. chemo is very hard on the body. i would say its close to death.

If in this instance parents have the right to decide their child is better off dead then it lends cause that say soon to be parents of a child with deformities in the womb that might cause suffering later is better off dead. Suicide is a sin as well.
 
If in this instance parents have the right to decide their child is better off dead then it lends cause that say soon to be parents of a child with deformities in the womb that might cause suffering later is better off dead. Suicide is a sin as well.
suicide is a sin in the case that one know that the treatment wont work? and well have that argument for abortion already. a mother won the case for wrongful birth in Oregon over her defective child. i have told my wife that if i am TERMINAL let me die, meaning don't revive me if i do die and i have terminal cancer. it my choice to refuse treatment.i have been told there is no chemo that will work for my condition after i tried it would i logically put my wife through hell of it (seeing me loose my hair, weight and the pain) to do what? i might beat cancer? if it didn't work the first time i choose to die with some semblance of lucidity.
 
suicide is a sin in the case that one know that the treatment wont work? and well have that argument for abortion already. a mother won the case for wrongful birth in Oregon over her defective child. i have told my wife that if i am TERMINAL let me die, meaning don't revive me if i do die and i have terminal cancer. it my choice to refuse treatment.i have been told there is no chemo that will work for my condition after i tried it would i logically put my wife through hell of it (seeing me loose my hair, weight and the pain) to do what? i might beat cancer? if it didn't work the first time i choose to die with some semblance of lucidity.

Well seeing as how they don't know it won't work yes letting a kid die is a form of suicide. Parents who deny blood transfusion and other treatment is wrong also.
 
creeps me out. The hospital is trying to force painful treatment on a child. They already tried the treatments, and the side effects were terrible. Why can't the parents pursue an alternative?
 
Well seeing as how they don't know it won't work yes letting a kid die is a form of suicide. Parents who deny blood transfusion and other treatment is wrong also.
funny that was the case and it was never challenged, the jws until two years ago banned that practice. it make no difference to me. as I am banned for life from giving blood and my wife. the price paid for sleeping with a man.

it would be murder not suicide. the child has made the choice not to in this case, funny how this works. if that same ten year old had a baby and wanted it aborted the state if they don't have that law that allows parental consent would allow her to go against their beliefs, or what about if he or she wants to live pure and well that would break a rule here if you know what im mentioned we can talk about that in the Christian talk and advice. personally I disagree with the parents but w.e have to be careful here. America is becoming a nanny state.
 
I'm just frightened over ever-increasing government and "expert" power over our lives. You have freedom...unless your doc says otherwise. Apparently, they should be allowed the final say in someone's life. Kinda scary.
 
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