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[Susannah]

Boy does this hit home. I write a lot about rejection. And many many people when they get rejected try to cover up their hurt by getting angry. Men especially do this but women also. I wrote a story about my son's anger called Raising Cain. Because every time I reject him he goes ballistic. So to me this story is the beginning a psychoanalysis. LOL. Once we know God then rejection doesn't hurt quite as much. So obviously Cain did not love God the way Abel did. I think the scripture says that Satan was crouching at his door. I'm not sure. But misplaced anger can be evil, like racism. Other times the anger comes from having been abused or neglected as a child If Cain had a rejection wound then we can blame all this on Eve. LOL Thanks for all this great information.

 

[Corn Pop]

Boy does this hit home. I write a lot about rejection. And many many people when they get rejected try to cover up their hurt by getting angry. Men especially do this but women also. I wrote a story about my son's anger called Raising Cain. Because every time I reject him he goes ballistic. So to me this story is the beginning a psychoanalysis. LOL. Once we know God then rejection doesn't hurt quite as much. So obviously Cain did not love God the way Abel did. I think the scripture says that Satan was crouching at his door. I'm not sure. But misplaced anger can be evil, like racism. Other times the anger comes from having been abused or neglected as a child If Cain had a rejection wound then we can blame all this on Eve. LOL Thanks for all this great information.

Its easy to get envy or angry when if you feel someone is more favoured. It's like when I was young my older brother seemed to always come first and I come second.

I remember one year as a child my older brother got something for Christmas and I got something I believed was not as great and I flipped out because I felt he was more favoured than me and always got the cooler stuff and was always the first for everything.

When I was young I treated my older brother quite bad because I thought he was more favoured yet he was always good to me. Now we are best friends, I love my brother more than anything, I owe my brother the respect he deserves and as we are both adults now I think he knows that and we get along really well. Me and my brother are really tight now.

I'm the fool, my brother has always been there for me, always been good to me, and even tells me sometimes he's always there for me, and loves me as a brother. He's my brother and I see him the same way back.

And the truth is, my parents love us both equally and that's the important thing. Love is the most important thing, it's more than anything else, there is no favor with love.

 

[Susannah]

I went through the same thing with my sister. When she was young,she was molested so my mother gave her all this extra attention. But she never explained why until I was an adult. Then she apologized and said it's just that my sister needed her more and I seemed to have it all together and able to take care of myself. Regardless of her reasoning, it took a long time to get over being neglected. But when God came into my life I wrote her a letter telling her how I forgave her and that I loved her with all my heart. A week later she died. It's all about growing up putting things in perspective and then moving on. As it turned out my mother was right. My sister did not have the strength that I did. Now I'm taking care of her because she has dementia. Just like my mom. How ironic is that. ❤

 

[Corn Pop]

We all learn in life and make mistakes and can learn from them and grow on them for the better. Dwelling on the past is not a good thing. When we know we can learn from a mistake in the past and become a better person from it we should be happy. The thing with the past is it's done you cannot undo it or do anything about it but learn and change for the better. It's not all negative.

 

[Susannah]

Amen! ❤

 

[Link1983]

Who's fault it is today?

Every one!

 

[Link1983]

We all learn in life and make mistakes and can learn from them and grow on them for the better. Dwelling on the past is not a good thing. When we know we can learn from a mistake in the past and become a better person from it we should be happy. The thing with the past is it's done you cannot undo it or do anything about it but learn and change for the better. It's not all negative.

I found this to be a paradox to me.. like if it wasn't forvsl the bad choices my father and mother did I probably wouldn't exist.
Simply shows how God who is only good, have power to make bad into good!
Thank Him!
We are maybe only beginning to understand that he has complete victory. And we are his inherence.
Act like he is right about forgiveness. Over and over until it becomes real.
God bless you!

 

[Quantrill]

Who's fault it is today?

Between Adam and Eve, I will always say it was Adam's fault. Eve was deceived. Adam was not. He ate knowing full well it was disobedience to God's command. (1 Tim. 2:14) And God counted it so. (Rom. 5:12-21)

As to Adam's motive, I don't believe he all of a sudden had a mean streak and decided to rebel against God. When Eve fell, Adam was between a rock and a hard place. Eve was in the most terrible place because her head, Adam, and the head of the human race, was unfallen. She was lost to Adam. She was lost to God.

Why didn't Adam run to God and say this woman you gave me has sinned against you, but I will not? You need to get me another woman. Why didn't he let God fix the problem with Eve? Perhaps he feared what would happen to Eve.

I believe Adam knew God and Adam loved Eve. And he didn't want another woman, he wanted Eve. Therefore, I believe he chose to eat, chose to be in a fallen state with Eve, because He knew God was going to get him back somehow. And whatever God did to get him back, would get Eve back also.

It is just opinion, but the parallel to Christ, the Last Adam, and His Bride is too similar to ignore in my opinion. Christ was sinless and took on a fallen state the results of which rescued His Bride.

Quantrill

 

[WIP]

Its easy to get envy or angry when if you feel someone is more favoured. It's like when I was young my older brother seemed to always come first and I come second.

I don't think God favored Abel over Cain. He favored Abel's offering over Cain's. There's a difference. Cain took it personally and killed Abel and that was his sin.

 

[WIP]

Between Adam and Eve, I will always say it was Adam's fault. Eve was deceived. Adam was not. He ate knowing full well it was disobedience to God's command.

Genesis 3:1-3 NKJV
Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”
2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden;
3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

She knew.

 

[Quantrill]

Genesis 3:1-3 NKJV
Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”
2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden;
3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

She knew.

That doesn't matter. She was deceived.

Quantrill

 

[Corn Pop]

That doesn't matter. She was deceived.

Quantrill

She had a choice and made a choice. It's easy to blame someone else. How was she deceived when she knew full well she was not allowed to eat from the tree or would recieve a penalty?.

Imagine a criminal saying that to a judge, they knew full well what they did was wrong and illegal and could go to prison but it's not there fault.

 

[Quantrill]

She had a choice and made a choice. It's easy to blame someone else. How was she deceived when she knew full well she was not allowed to eat from the tree or would recieve a penalty?.

Imagine a criminal saying that to a judge, they knew full well what they did was wrong and illegal and could go to prison but it's not there fault.

I never said she had no choice. She was deceived though. Which means she did not see herself sinning against God, even though she did. But the fall of the human race rests on Adam. Not Eve.

I never said she was not guilty for her sin. She was, even though she was deceived, and fell as a result. But the human race did not fall till Adam ate. He bears the responsibility and blame.

(Rom. 5:12) "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world...."

Quantrill

 

[Corn Pop]

I never said she had no choice. She was deceived though. Which means she did not see herself sinning against God, even though she did. But the fall of the human race rests on Adam. Not Eve.

I never said she was not guilty for her sin. She was, even though she was deceived, and fell as a result. But the human race did not fall till Adam ate. He bears the responsibility and blame.

(Rom. 5:12) "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world...."

Quantrill

It doesn't make sense to me. The serpent asked Eve a question and she replied that if she ate from the tree she would disobey God and receive a penalty, the serpent then lied and said she would not acturally recieve a penalty.

She was deceived but you cannot blame someone when you have made the wrong choice, she had options, trust God's word or trust the serpents word. If she knew God was God why not take his word for it.

 

[Quantrill]

It doesn't make sense to me. The serpent asked Eve a question and she replied that if she ate from the tree she would disobey God and receive a penalty, the serpent then lied and said she would not acturally recieve a penalty.

She was deceived but you cannot blame someone when you have made the wrong choice, she had options, trust God's word or trust the serpents word. If she knew God was God why not take his word for it.

You're not following at all. Again, I never said, and the Bible never said, that Eve was not guilty of a sin. When she sinned, she fell. Even though it was because she was deceived, she fell. If you want to blame her for her sin, go ahead.

But, you cannot blame her sin for the fall of the human race. That was all Adam. Adam was not deceived. He knew when she handed him the fruit what was up.

Quantrill

 

[Corn Pop]

You're not following at all. Again, I never said, and the Bible never said, that Eve was not guilty of a sin. When she sinned, she fell. Even though it was because she was deceived, she fell. If you want to blame her for her sin, go ahead.

But, you cannot blame her sin for the fall of the human race. That was all Adam. Adam was not deceived. He knew when she handed him the fruit what was up.

Quantrill

I would never blame another person for my own choices so I do not blame Eve for anything.

On a random side note maybe the serpent was truth.

“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.

That is True, Eve is in heaven with the Lord thanks to Jesus Christ. She did not die. God is the Alpha and the Omega who knows all things, Jesus was always there from the start with God and Eve would never die, she was saved before it happened. Eve did not die.

“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God knowing good and evil.”

That is True, Eve ate from it and was like God knowing good and evil, I mean dang humans love ruling over other humans and many claim they know what's best and knowledge has increased both good and evil to the extremes and many in history have claimed to be god's.

Now im starting on a new topic. Did the serpent lie or tell the truth. Is there a truth with another truth?.

If the serpent lied then it does not make sense because his lie is suppose to be a lie and not be truth yet we use it as an excuse as the truth for sin.

Ok I'm going deep now. Lol.